[EllaC]

I've been researching the menstrual cycle. Most agree that estrogen is high in the follicular phase, while progesterone is low and progesterone is high during the luteal phase, while estrogen is low. However some charts show a second surge of estrogen during the luteal phase, still lower than progesterone. Some charts do not show this second surge of estrogen and have it continually low during the luteal phase. Does anyone know what's going on with that? I'm trying to decide what herbs and when.

Also, some say that taking phytoestrogens will lower your actual estrogen, which is stronger in effect. Others say phytoestrogens will stimulate breast growth when your own estrogen currently isn't. I'm having a hard time understanding this.

Thanks!

That's the biggest question of all I reckon.
I notice pm being one of the highest sources of phyto e and yet if it replaces the bad natural e then why do girls always end up with period irregularities when taking it.. The irregularities to me indicate it's having a negative impact on estrogen so I don't really buy into that theory. And of course there's too much fake pm out there or not so much fake but advising females to take too much of the stuff more like it.

Flaxseed on the other hand I read only good things , so i guess it's more about getting the right phytoestrogens and not buying into all the reptitive hype on the Internet. The mix blend companies like breast active etc with all those supposed estrogen herbs never do well . I haven't seen anyone on here hav success with them.

The more programmes I read it seems massage and pumping has the greatest results...

However if you get a hormone test which proves your low in estrogen then that's another story. But I suspect these days most of us have too much.



Sorry to be a downer but I've been there done that with all the phyto herbs and at best they seem to give you a boost initially then it goes away.