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A question about Gelatine-Chelle u mentioned it 2 me
November 21 2006 at 3:31 PM gingerD (Login gingerD)
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A question about Gelatine:
I have seen in previous posts and other programs people using Geletine (tiger lilly and her soup)etc
can some one explain to me exactly why this can help in NBE.

Chelle-I mentioned i was thinking about taking collagen for NBE a while ago and u said jelly and u etc were using gelatine-as u mentioned it in this thread is it simular to collagen in what it does?
THIS IS WHAT IV FOUND OUT
Gelatin is a protein product produced by partial hydrolysis of collagen extracted from skin, bones, cartilage, ligaments, etc. The natural molecular bonds between individual collagen strands are broken down into a form that rearranges more easily
But i still don't fully understand this-sorry to sound stupid could some one clarify this for me

Im abit paranoid about taking it beacuse of my weight gain-Can this make it worse etc i was going to start with Collagen but gelatine does seem a cheaper option


THANKS GUYS
gingerD




js89
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Re: A question about Gelatine-Chelle u mentioned it 2 me
November 21 2006, 3:45 PM

gingerD - I have been taking gelatine for the past couple of months. I did not notice any additional weight gain from it, aside from that I had already had. I do believe since taking it, I have had more pains and fullness. I started taking that along with GABA, and they seem to be helping. I decided to try the gelatine because of all the talk about chicken feet soup. I wouldn't be able to do the chicken feet, and gelatine can be a substitute for it. Good luck. Jen




michelle choi
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Hey GingerD
November 21 2006, 4:46 PM

Don't know if I can clarify or not...but I found a little more info on gelatin for you and honestly I don't know if collagen would be better as opposed to gelatin, they both have several amino acids I know. Oh and no the gelatin should not affect weight gain, here's some info I found:

Gelatin can assist in weight reduction programs because it allows the creation of nutritious, yet low calorie dishes. Gelatin contains no fat, sugar, purines or cholesterol and it can bind large quantities of water which helps impart a "fuller" feeling after a meal or it can be used to replace high calorie content binders like cream, egg yolk or starchy products.

Gelatin is a vitreous, brittle solid that is faintly yellow to white and nearly tasteless and odorless. It contains 84-90% protein, 1-2% mineral salts and 8-15% water.

Gelatin also appears to be beneficial to athletes for muscle growth and metabolism, as it contains lysine, which is important for muscle growth and arginine a precursor of creatine, an amino acid important for the energy metabolism of muscle cells.

Gelatin contains 9 of the amino acids essential for humans.

Gelatin contains 26.4–30.5% glycine, 14.8–18% proline, 13.3–14.5% hydroxyproline, 11.1–11.7% glutamic acid, 8.6–11.3% alanine, and in decreasing order arginine, aspartic acid, lysine, serine, leucine, valine, phenylala-nine, threonine, isoleucine, hydroxylysine, histidine, methionine, and tyrosine. Absence of only two essential amino acids—tryptophan and methionine—makes gelatin a good dietary food supplement.

Also Ginger here's a link to the gelatine that I get, once you get to the page, just scroll down and you can see all the ingredients/calories in it:

http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=305059&navAction=jump&navCount=2&id=prod393925




Hope this helps hon. Good luck to you and everyone!!




This message has been edited by jamesredred on Jan 24, 2016 9:57 PM




jellyboobs
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gelatine
November 21 2006, 9:54 PM

when I introduced gelatine to my program soon my boobs got meatier and my skin improved !!!!! that was months ago love jelly...




Jen
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Re: A question about Gelatine-Chelle u mentioned it 2 me
November 21 2006, 10:36 PM

That's a good word for it jelly - meatier. I've been taking it for at least a full month to a month and a half and do feel it has made a difference.



g
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Re: A question about Gelatine-Chelle u mentioned it 2 me
November 22 2006, 10:40 AM

Oh thanks alot guys-Chelle thanx so much, its funny how iv always asumed its pure fat or somthing-
Its actually reccomeneded for reducing BF !!!
Yes thats clarified things for me-And i think i may as well add it to help get my boobies "meaty"



gingerD
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Re: A question about Gelatine-Chelle u mentioned it 2 me
November 22 2006, 11:54 AM

Hi another question-
and chelle-how do you take the gellatine is it in capsules/or granules etc




Helena
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Re: A question about Gelatine-Chelle u mentioned it 2 me
November 22 2006, 12:01 PM

Ladies, how much gelatine per day would you recommend for BE purposes? Are we talking about the same gelatine powder that is used as an ingredient of several sweets' recipies?




michelle choi
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hey ladies!
November 22 2006, 4:19 PM

GingerD, glad I could help. I use the gelatin powder, it's in packets. I don't use it everyday since it's like $8 a box/14 packets, so to save on money I go the cheap route and just drink it every other day. (you mix it with water and it actually tastes fine to me, it's orange flavored)But, you can just get the capsules. The only reason I don't take the capsules, is because the gelatin powder has more protein and gelatin in each serving than the caps do and I would have to take several caps a day to equal what the powder mix has. But, if it's cheaper for you, then the caps are fine. One thing that's definitely grown and is much stronger with gelatin is my nails...it's unbelievable cause they use to break off when they would get to the very edge of my finger tips, now they grow waaay past the tips and are much stronger. They get super long now before even trying to break off and they grow very fast. Of course the brand I get is designed for nails afterall.

Helena, I'm not sure what the recommened dose is really for be purposes. With gelatin though I've read those no limit as to how much you can take each day. And yes, that's the same gelatin used in sweets and such (jello, marshmellows, etc). The gelatin packets I use have 7g of protein and 7g of gelatin in each serving. As opposed to the gelatin caps, they have like 1g or protein in each 2 caps and a little over 1g of gelatin in each 2 caps.


Good luck ladies!!!!




gingerD
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Re: A question about Gelatine-Chelle u mentioned it 2 me
November 22 2006, 4:43 PM

Chelle-Thank you for that, another question not sure if its a daft one-U say your gelatine is orange flavoured-Could you not just use jelly? (jello not jam)
Iv seen Jelly in powder form in the supermarket is that basically the same.
Or am i way out and its more speciallised
Do you buy your from health stores not supermarkets?



diana
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thanks
November 22 2006, 5:04 PM

thanx for clarifying about it being jello. um. i'll be back i need to run down to the store now. i know they have to have jello at the village food shop down the road! lol.




yvonne
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found some info
November 22 2006, 5:57 PM

I did a little research and found some info:

"When used as a dietary supplement it is necessary to consume some 7 to 10 g pure gelatine daily. This would be equivalent to about 120 g jelly babies per day or 400 ml jelly which may not be practical, in which case, 2 heaped teaspoons of powder stirred into about 100 ml fruit juice and drunk as a slurry, can be an alternative means of consuming the required quantity." (http://www.gelatin.co.za/gelatine-consumer.html)

and:

"It should always be remembered that heating, slowly destroys gelatin=s gelling ability so one should always use the least amount of heating possible and for the shortest time possible." (http://www.gelatin.co.za/gelatine-consumer.html)

and also:

"Although gelatin is by far the major hydrocolloid used for gelling, current concerns about the possibility of such an animal-derived product containing the prions that cause Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD)a, plus the need generated by vegetarians and certain religions, has recently encouraged the serious search for alternatives. The combination of the melt in the mouth, elastic and emulsification characteristics of gelatin gels is, however, difficult to reproduce.

***Gelatin is nutritionally lacking as a protein being deficient in isoleucine, methionine, threonine and tryptophan.***


It should be noted that gelatin is prepared under harsh conditions that make it effectively impossible for the survival of the CJD-causative prion, even in the unlikely circumstance of it being present. However, concern exists due to the severity of the disease and the known stability of the prion taken together with the difficulty at analyzing for it at the extremely low levels that may cause the disease." (http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/hygel.html)



after reading this but also having used it in my program...i think that i stll want it to be part of my program. it did seem to help a lot.

happy growing!!
yvonne



diana
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i must have missed it somewhere
November 22 2006, 7:30 PM

how much did u take in powder form?




yvonne
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Re: A question about Gelatine-Chelle u mentioned it 2 me
November 23 2006, 7:17 PM

i don't know if this question is for me but if it is:
i didn't take any in powder form. i take it in capsules. 500mg. one with my morning dose, one with my afternoon dose and 2 with my evening dose. don't know if that's enough but i did seem fuller when i was on it. just bought some more last night.

yvonne



Wahaika
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found more info - Knox gelatin
January 7 2007, 10:57 PM

For information on how Kraft Foods avoids mad cow disease/Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease/Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE), for Knox Gelatin, see:

http://www.kraftfoods.com/main.aspx?m=contact_us/contact_us&q=What%20precautions%20are%20taken%20to%20avoid%20mad%20cow%20disease%20in%20knox%20gelatin%20products?

Just click on the questions in black print and the answer will pop up. Here are some excerpts:

Does Kraft/Oscar Mayer use meats that are processed from AMR systems?
No. We do not use beef from advanced meat recovery (AMR) systems or mechanically separated beef for any of our products. For years, our procurement policy has specified that we accept only beef that has been separated from the bone by hand, not by machines. And the beef we do use is from whole muscle meat. Scientific studies have not found BSE in whole muscle meat.

What steps are you taking to ensure that BSE beef doesn't make it into your products?
We continually monitor the latest scientific findings and our own quality assurance programs to ensure the safety of our products. For some time, we have had in place a series of BSE prevention measures to assure that only healthy cattle, properly fed, are the source of our ingredients. Below are some of the specific steps we take to ensure the wholesomeness of our beef products:

* We use beef from whole muscle meat only. Scientific studies have not found BSE in whole muscle meat.
* We do not use beef from advanced meat recovery (AMR) systems or mechanically separated beef for any of our products.
* We specifically exclude any brain and spinal cord tissue from all of our meat purchases.
* We require that all of our suppliers verify that they are in full compliance with federal regulations regarding the ruminant feed ban, and require similar verification from stockyards or public auctions from which they acquire livestock.
* We require our suppliers to have an aggressive inspection system in place and do not accept beef from diseased animals.
* We conduct on site inspections of our suppliers to verify that they are in compliance with our current guidelines and specifications.
* We fully comply with rigorous U.S. government food safety programs.

Is the gelatin used in your products safe?
The majority of gelatin used in KRAFT products is from North American pork, and BSE does not occur in pigs. Additionally, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and other scientific experts have determined that the manufacturing methods used to produce gelatin -- no matter what the animal or geographic source -- ensure that the gelatin supply is safe. International research, including a review by the EU Scientific Steering Committee, has confirmed that gelatin manufacturing processes remove and inactivate any contamination by BSE. Furthermore, we have had stringent processes in place to prevent BSE in gelatin for many years. During processing the materials used to make gelatin are exposed to extensive purification procedures, including prolonged exposure to both acid and alkaline conditions, which have been demonstrated to substantially enhance the safety of gelatin. The raw materials are also exposed to other processes such as sterilization, filtration, and demineralization, which have also been shown to significantly enhance the safety of gelatin.

Just thought there might be an interest.

Wahaika