23-01-2016, 14:13
Progesterone Cream users....
January 12 2008 at 7:59 PM northernmom (no login)
Hello ladies. I have a question regarding p.c. I started using it a bout a week ago and I dont know what's happening but my boobs have visibly grown, say 1/2" and firmer, etc...
My concerns are regarding p.c. use and cancer. I checked the websites and read some previous postings regarding p.c. and cancer but they relate to synthetic p.c., rather than the natural progesterone cream that I bought from "Now personal Care".
What are your opinions on this? I'm kind of at a loss. I'm loving (what I think are )the results, but I certainly dont want to risk my health over bigger boobs.
Thanks for replying.
pl.s.
Henri
(Login henriettahippo)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Progesterone Cream users....
January 13 2008, 1:01 PM
Hi Northernmom - I'll admit I don't know much about PC, but I am a user. I have not had any permanent growth from it, but Waxingmoon, are resident PC expert, has grown 1 inch from using it.
I do know that in the beginning, I did get some swelling in my boobs, and they hurt really bad for the first three months. I think as long as you are taking PC for the correct reason, and at normal dosages, then you should be okay. I am not sure if you do massages or not, but I find it is really helpful to get comfortable and personal with your breasts, so you can tell if there is something "off" about the way they feel.
Hopefully Waxingmoon will see this post and post back, but you might want to look into gettting the book she mentions by John Lee, or at least borrow it from the library for a while.
Hope that helps.
Henri
Oops forgot one more thing, I have not discontinued using the PC, but I have cut back or the amount I need, as I feel my hormones are starting to normal themselves out again.......I will probably always rely on it, just to help me get through those really rough days that I still get.....
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
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Re: Progesterone Cream users....
January 13 2008, 9:44 PM
Hi Northernmom,
In a post I made a while ago I tried to cover all the questions people had about progesterone cream, including the "will I get cancer from using it?" one.
I do suggest looking at that link as well as 2nd Henri's suggestion about getting 'the book'. (lol I wish I received some sort of financial gain from recommending that book)(BOOK= Dr John Lee 'What your doctor may not tell you about premenopause')
But here is a more specific response to your question about artificial progestins versus natural progesterone. Both are created in the lab. Artificial progestin molecules resemble testosterone and although they will bind to progesterone receptors they do not provide the protective effects of natural progesterone. Natural progesterone is synthesized from wild yam (only in the lab -taking wild yam will not increase your progesterone -no, no, no...) and the molecule created is identical to the progesterone molecule our body creates.
Natural progesterone is thought to have protective effects against cancers that are caused by excess estrogen. Artificial progestins do not provide this protection.
Natural progesterone taken in excess amounts (read the book...) can increase the risk of promoting growth of estrogen and progesterone sensitive cancers. Taken in appropriate amounts there is probably very little risk - unless you already have a cancer that is sensitive to progesterone/estrogen.
The effect you are feeling in your breasts often occurs with initial use because progesterone is used by the body to activate estrogen receptors and also it is used to create estrogen. When a woman first uses progesterone to treat estrogen dominance symptoms she often has an increase of her symptoms (one of which is breast swelling). This effect will probably fade as you continue to use the cream.
I experienced something that some women report with the use of progesterone, which was a permanent increase. I believe it occurred because my estrogen receptors in my breast "woke up" and stored some fat there. There has also been a complete resolution of my previous fibrocystic breast disease. Yeah, I am a BIG fan of progesterone... It has really done me well, but I have also used it in a very responsible way. My program page details my progesterone use.
I hope you will take some time to continue your research into progesterone. Hopefully it will be as positive an influence as it has been from me.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
northernmom
(no login)
Re: Progesterone Cream users....
January 14 2008, 12:57 AM
Henri, Waxingmoon...
Thank you for your response...really helped and I think I will buy the book. I'm 40 this year so might as well prepare myself.
I hope the growth(swelling) doesnt go away!lol..i'm loving the extra fullness. other than that, I feel good all around.
January 12 2008 at 7:59 PM northernmom (no login)
Hello ladies. I have a question regarding p.c. I started using it a bout a week ago and I dont know what's happening but my boobs have visibly grown, say 1/2" and firmer, etc...
My concerns are regarding p.c. use and cancer. I checked the websites and read some previous postings regarding p.c. and cancer but they relate to synthetic p.c., rather than the natural progesterone cream that I bought from "Now personal Care".
What are your opinions on this? I'm kind of at a loss. I'm loving (what I think are )the results, but I certainly dont want to risk my health over bigger boobs.
Thanks for replying.
pl.s.
Henri
(Login henriettahippo)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Progesterone Cream users....
January 13 2008, 1:01 PM
Hi Northernmom - I'll admit I don't know much about PC, but I am a user. I have not had any permanent growth from it, but Waxingmoon, are resident PC expert, has grown 1 inch from using it.
I do know that in the beginning, I did get some swelling in my boobs, and they hurt really bad for the first three months. I think as long as you are taking PC for the correct reason, and at normal dosages, then you should be okay. I am not sure if you do massages or not, but I find it is really helpful to get comfortable and personal with your breasts, so you can tell if there is something "off" about the way they feel.
Hopefully Waxingmoon will see this post and post back, but you might want to look into gettting the book she mentions by John Lee, or at least borrow it from the library for a while.
Hope that helps.
Henri
Oops forgot one more thing, I have not discontinued using the PC, but I have cut back or the amount I need, as I feel my hormones are starting to normal themselves out again.......I will probably always rely on it, just to help me get through those really rough days that I still get.....
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Progesterone Cream users....
January 13 2008, 9:44 PM
Hi Northernmom,
In a post I made a while ago I tried to cover all the questions people had about progesterone cream, including the "will I get cancer from using it?" one.
I do suggest looking at that link as well as 2nd Henri's suggestion about getting 'the book'. (lol I wish I received some sort of financial gain from recommending that book)(BOOK= Dr John Lee 'What your doctor may not tell you about premenopause')
But here is a more specific response to your question about artificial progestins versus natural progesterone. Both are created in the lab. Artificial progestin molecules resemble testosterone and although they will bind to progesterone receptors they do not provide the protective effects of natural progesterone. Natural progesterone is synthesized from wild yam (only in the lab -taking wild yam will not increase your progesterone -no, no, no...) and the molecule created is identical to the progesterone molecule our body creates.
Natural progesterone is thought to have protective effects against cancers that are caused by excess estrogen. Artificial progestins do not provide this protection.
Natural progesterone taken in excess amounts (read the book...) can increase the risk of promoting growth of estrogen and progesterone sensitive cancers. Taken in appropriate amounts there is probably very little risk - unless you already have a cancer that is sensitive to progesterone/estrogen.
The effect you are feeling in your breasts often occurs with initial use because progesterone is used by the body to activate estrogen receptors and also it is used to create estrogen. When a woman first uses progesterone to treat estrogen dominance symptoms she often has an increase of her symptoms (one of which is breast swelling). This effect will probably fade as you continue to use the cream.
I experienced something that some women report with the use of progesterone, which was a permanent increase. I believe it occurred because my estrogen receptors in my breast "woke up" and stored some fat there. There has also been a complete resolution of my previous fibrocystic breast disease. Yeah, I am a BIG fan of progesterone... It has really done me well, but I have also used it in a very responsible way. My program page details my progesterone use.
I hope you will take some time to continue your research into progesterone. Hopefully it will be as positive an influence as it has been from me.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
northernmom
(no login)
Re: Progesterone Cream users....
January 14 2008, 12:57 AM
Henri, Waxingmoon...
Thank you for your response...really helped and I think I will buy the book. I'm 40 this year so might as well prepare myself.
I hope the growth(swelling) doesnt go away!lol..i'm loving the extra fullness. other than that, I feel good all around.