[Pinnochia]

You are absolutely right, excess estrogen is a nightmare for me, when I was usng PM cream, my breasts actually shrunk. And PC cream didn't work either. Think I've tried nearly every herb and supplement under the sun, and I swore I would never use anything else but the noogleberry and massage, yet here I am eyeing up isosensuals cream.....To gain or not to gain indeed, I already have the butt and the thighs so am firmly staynig off the pies for now

LOL,,, them pies will do you in,, Im exercising now to work off my holiday pie binge,lol. I was on Web MD, today looking at things that cause gynocomastia,, i also sent a e-mail to a doctor that specializes in this problem.
Web MD, states that tea tree oil and Lavender will cause growth in men chests, and the chests of adolescent males.
I read your message and took a close look at my bottles of each oil,, and neither states that women should avoid it.
(IT does say though that if your pregnant or lactating you should consult a physician first,,,and that it should be used with a carrier oil or lotion ). So i get the feeling some women have tried it,and are using it., It has a natural plant based estrogen much weaker than that in birth control pills, or hormonal medicines,,,( but i cant promise its safe for a woman. )
Id say experiment with those, but id hate to be responsible for pushing a woman towards anything risky,, . as with anything you learn about here were obviously making these decisions completely on our own,,. so if you want to try these oils in a 4-6 month test,, id let your doctor know so he can monitor your health during this usage.
And if all else fails,, put some wads of cotton in your cheeks ,, and smile and take a few pictures to see if you'll still like yourself larger,,, and go for lots of soy milk, flax seed, and fruit, -not the pie lol..
Flax seed is the most potent natural plant based estrogen in a food, soy is next or real close. I drink about 8 half gallons of soy milk a week. I gave up pop, and most caffeine drinks and make soy milk my primary drink, substituting cherry juice or green tea or mint tea occasionally to break up the boredom.
Minkerbell, your a doll, and i sincerely hope whatever you choose will be a safe process for you. I also hope we can continue talking here and get to be friends. It sounds like you already have the most important ingredient you need for long term success, and thats common sense,,,