[EllaC]

I've been taking fenugreek 610g 2 capsules 3 times a day also saw palmetto 450g 3 capsules 3 times a day with massage and nothing has happened I drink plenty of water and now I'm taking flax seed am I doing something wrong would greatly appreciate any advice thank you

Hi Denny,

I don't care for saw palmetto, it's inhibits DHT @ 32% (in the blood), plus it inhibits estrogen. Reishi inhibits serum DHT @ 80%, Pharma (finasteride and dutaseride) are up to 80 to 94%. I do like what Fenugreek does but you'll need a change in inhibiting DHT, look into reishi.

Red clover, green tea, coconut oil are good staples for breast growth. Progesterone cream (applied) to breasts will help round out the breasts, while E2 elongates breasts. Progesterone to estrogen ratio should be 3:1, you'll also need amino acids (growth hormone) and IGF-1 (sleep helps this, first 2 hours of sleep is critical), you can also get IGf-1 from HIIT (High intensity interval training) add MSM pre work and intermittent fasting and multiples this factor some 2000%.

PM (legitimate) can be used as an E2, reliability is key though. You'll also need an aromatase to synthesize testosterone to estrogen, sources are White Peony, vitamin D, coconut oil, cAMP, ICARIIN (found in horny goat weed) , forskolin (strong) watch out for fake products. (see FAQ aromatase for more info).

Flaxseed inhibits aromatase, that's going in the wrong direction, replace with coconut oil. Add healthy fats, (walnuts are excellent, 1/4 cup). Proteins , (I'm interested in pea protein, no heavy metals from what I've seen).

Good luck

Lotus dunno if the above applies to a bloke?
Does it apply to girls?
I'm SOOOO FKN SORRY I get soo lost in your your wonderful info.

Can you post the "perfect programme" for us girls "assuming" we have balanced hormones?
So First follicular stage = legitimate PM (OR lesser lower risk E alternative ie red clover or???)
Then Luteal phase = PC Bioidentical progesterone cream or (lesser low risk alternative vitex? at what dosage?)

Then when do we take the others ie coconut oil, green tea, reishi etc
What do we take to lower testosterone? spearmint?

Thanks - again sorry for making you repeat info.

Ps if you were really creative maybe a simple programme for those of us girls who might be E dom which might address the estrogen dominance and also growth - proven E dom of course. I don't buy into the online symptom tests for hormone balance, they can send you off in the wrong direction.