[hannah]

Hi Lotus, our God of NBE and source of information .
So how effective moringa in boosting NBE? Have you given it a try?

Hi Dfleurs, (long time no hear girl) I did try it at some point or another, I can't remember why I stopped using it?. However it's an amazing tea for sure. Personally, I think a NBE program needs 2 cups of green tea daily. I see that moringa would be a great substitute.

And i also curios about red clover. I cant seems to find enough review on here about red clover.

When I had concerns about PM I used red clover liquid extract. RC is a strong at ERa(estrogen rector alpha), actually it has a stronger affinity then PM. I used 1 dropper 3x a day. And I went hard core with sublingual dose , it wasn't bad, I let it sit under the tounge for a few minutes, then wash it down. I believe RC can help widen areolas too. (Just my opinion)

PM cause a lot of side effects on me sadly. So im searching for new alternatives for estrogen booster. Could you recommend me please? Thank you

Yes, more and more people are stepping up to say that PM has issues, some of those issues are quite serious. We must take more universal protections, (which I've listed several times)

Coconut oil helps estrogen receptor bioavailability. Maybe concentrate more on the conversion of testosterone to estrogen, which is more available to us in the body, known as endogenously. In other words we probably don't need more estrogen boosting herbs, just be smart on what's already there. Make sense?.

And another side to this is by reducing androgens which will create more bioavailable estrogen, by way of 5 alpha reduction. I've found something knew, (well, newer-ish) I posted some info on it before and it went unnoticed, I'll post some updated research on what I'm referring too, asap.

In women, about 25% of testosterone is produced in the ovaries and 25% in the adrenals, the remaining 50% is derived from peripheral conversion of proandrogens [dehydroepian drosterone (DHEA) sulphate, DHEA and androstenedione] (Somboonporn & Davis, 2004). Testosterone levels have been linked to several hormone–dependent diseases in women such as polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS), hirsutism, and androgenic alopecia, acne and breast cancer (Kaaks et al., 2005; Yu et al., 2003; Wetberg et al. , 2001; Redmond, 1998).

In conclusion: Red Clover 1 dropper 2-3x daily, coconut oil 1-2 tablespoons daily , followed by the morninga tea sounds solid. RC in the first half followed Vitex in the second. (400mg) every other day might be a better option then every day. What's missing is an anti-androgen. What are you using presently?

Thank you Lotus..interesting as always:p I will wait curious on this part:

''And another side to this is by reducing androgens which will create more bioavailable estrogen, by way of 5 alpha reduction. I've found something knew, (well, newer-ish) I posted some info on it before and it went unnoticed, I'll post some updated research on what I'm referring too, asap.''