15-06-2015, 04:52
(14-06-2015, 11:51)janny Wrote:(13-06-2015, 23:41)missboobshirt Wrote:(13-06-2015, 19:51)janny Wrote: i have the same problem..pm makes my breast smaller..what is wrong??i am taking androgens,however,the ainterols capsules dontbwork for me :-( how could i make it effective to grow my breast?? Could i be estrogen dominant when i am veru slim,underweighted,flat chested without any bottom??
if PM is making your chest smaller I would stay clear away from phytoestrogens and focus on other kinds of nbe, maybe chaste tree or herbs that up progesterone. tbh I am in the same boat as you and I am not sure where to go next with herbs. I am looking into bovine ovary and Noogleberry.
also what do you mean you're taking androgens? do you mean anti androgens?
Yes, I mean antiandrogens (spearmint tea, sometimes saw palmetto)...sorry for my writingI really do not know...I am sure I am not estro dominant, I am taking PM in the follicular phase and in the luteal phase I take fenugreek, donq quai and wild yam..these are progesterone herbs, am I right?
I am desperate ..is it possible that the ainterol is not of a good quality? but then why does it does its job when talking about skin, hair and more beautiful look
All of those herbs you mentioned have phytoestrogen properties, I wouldnt take fenu during luteal, it doesn't promote progesterone like it does estrogen, fenu is a lot like PM just not as strong. your program sounds very estrogen based. spearmint is a very good anti androgen but it also ups your estrogen as well.
if you're over loading on estrogen it could very well be that your boobies are shrinking from this. You could probably continue all of those herbs if you balanced them with P herbs. Chasteberry is very good for P or a Progesterone cream, would be best during luteal phase.
take a look at this link-
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=21602
I lived by that when I first started NBE
if your hair skin and nails are looking better it could be from the PM but it could also be from the spearmint- anti androgens lower testosterone that cause acne, hair loss, etc etc so either you adding so much E to your body is lowering your T or the anti androgens are doing their job.
If I were you I would take less E herbs, maybe just take PM during follic. and take a P cream or chaste berry during luteal. you really don't need to take PM and Fenu at the same time imo because they pretty much do the same thing and over loading will probably do more damage than good :/ Wild yam is also very E based. I believe dong quai is too but its a very good herb to balance hormones and skin and such and over all womanly problems ^^

also have you considered the noogle berry?