[Charlotte]

Yeah, there's scant possibility of that, but not a very good one. It was going in a straight line for a few seconds, then abruptly shot off at a right angle to what it was travelling, no stops, no turns, just GONE!! We don't have anything that can do that.

Seek out Jordan Maxwell. He's been researching all this stuff since he was 19, back in the `50's.

Would prefer to believe an invisible an that lives in the sky created all f this? Using your own suggestion, which I've been using for many years know: Okay, let's say god created all of this. Alright, who created god? And who created the one that created god, ad infinitum. Sure, you could say the same about the big bag theory, who created what exploded and became the universe, but at least it's WAY more plausible.

Well, that's a dumb statement! They started taking more interest in us once we started screwing with the A-bomb because we'd suddenly become a threat to them and all other life out there! It's the same as, "Alright! Who gave the gun to the baby??" So far, nobody's been able to answer me this, but I've often asked, what would happen to the rest of the solar system, if not the rest of the universe, if we suddenly blew up the entire planet and it didn't exist anymore?
You're saying, why would they bother about now when we've been playing with it for 80 years? They've been concerned about it ever since we started goofing with it, not just since last week!

No, I didn't, but, does it matter who discovered it?

"We don't have anything that can do that."

You and I both don't know that. We are not high-level military personnel.

"Would prefer to believe an invisible an that lives in the sky created all f this?"

WOAH. Jumping to conclusions, and a pretty rude one, at that. No. I'm an agnostic. I don't believe in the Christian interpretation of God, and we'll leave it at that. (In the future, try not to guess people's religions. That's rude.)

Also, YOU don't understand what an A-Bomb is and why it can't "blow up the earth". The H-bomb was WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY FREAKING BIGGER.

I was trying to not be rude and point out how little you know, but you're coming off pretty rude to me. Calling my statements "dumb"? I just wanted to talk to you about other points of view.

I'm sorry you can't handle other points of view. I don't have a problem with your point of view and I believe you believe what you saw. I don't think you're stupid or a liar for it. I just have a different point of view. That's all.

Now, we can try again if you can like...try to not call my point of view "dumb". That would be nice.

Right, but we couldn't stand the G's in a sharp turn like that, we'd most likely die the instant the sudden right angle turn was made.

No conclusions jumped to. I merely put the generally conceived notion up against the more likely one. How it was deemed rude, I haven't a clue. That's twice now that YOU'VE done the jumping.

It doesn't matter which bomb we're talking about, the fact is we can now blow up the Earth a few hundred times and have been able to do it at least once for many decades. That's one big reason for their spike in interest in us way back then, not just in the past few years.

I was being QUITE civil, too!! But, in the case of that one statement, it WAS pretty dumb. "Why would they just now start worrying about us screwing around with things that could do horrible things to the galactic neighborhood when we're already capable of doing much worse?" My point was, they haven't JUST become interested in us! They've been escalating the frequency of their visits here ever since we started playing with the bomb back in the `40's. Nothing rude there!

Okay, so just talk.

I have no problem with your POV. I was just discussing it with you. When getting involved in an online discussion where typing and reading prevails, you HAVE to remember that it's impossible to type inflection, so, I could say something perfectly calmly and with great civility, but when you read it, you put your own "interpretation" of what I said on it and it COULD come out as being quite hostile! Maybe you've had a bad day and there's a chip on your shoulder because of it and you chose to take it out on me. I'm sitting ere listening to great music https://youtu.be/Aeaay1_Re24 with a nice breeze (albeit: man-made) blowing! I'm QUITE calm!

I didn't call your POV dumb, I called that one statement dumb.

Lol...okay, maybe I am being touchy. I did scan it and see "dumb" and just jump to conclusions, so, I am sorry for that...

I also read this line:

"Would prefer to believe an invisible an that lives in the sky created all f this? Using your own suggestion, which I've been using for many years know: Okay, let's say god created all of this. Alright, who created god?"

...as suggesting that I was arguing for or against the existence of a God. There were two ways to read that and you're right, I jumped to the one that was personal. I guess I'm feeling touchy about that topic, as well (you would too, if you had my mother)...

But...if you'd like to know my answer to that, it would be "anything worthy of being called a God would be outside of space-time, or else would BE space-time, so either THIS universe (in entirety) IS "god" (including us, animals, plants, fungi and bacteria, rocks, black holes, lightning, magnetic forces, etc.), OR...that it wouldn't matter anyway because we could never know or understand anything "outside" of the universe, much less do its bidding, or please or harm it in any way, at all. We can't even prove or disprove anything "outside" of the universe, because science can only measure the universe.

Anyway...hm...okay, back to topic (no whiplash required, just untreated ADHD!)

Okay, so the reasons I think they are military craft is because the ones *I* have seen seemed most likely to be military craft, for various reasons (the area I was in, for one), even the ones that "shimmered away" in broad daylight...have you seen the "shimmery" ones? I have looked directly at one and I swear it disappeared right when it "noticed" (??) I was looking at it. I'm sure you already know that this is a common thing reported: the craft "responding" to the viewer.

Another reason I think that *my* UFO sightings were military craft is because I stopped seeing them when I moved, last year. Either aliens were very interested in that specific town, or else the base outside of town wasn't really defunct, after all.

On the other hand, a close friend of mine who is not at all prone to flights of fancy, is still somewhat traumatized over a childhood "gray abduction" experience, complete with the operating table and everything. She even thought she had an implant and still can't watch alien-themed movies. You'd have to know her to know she doesn't ever like to talk about this stuff, because she thinks people will call her crazy.

I don't question that she really experienced this, but I have had several "out of body" experiences, myself, and am aware of what other things could be going on, neurologically. (On the other hand, someone might say I am sticking to the "scientific" explanation just because I don't want to deal with the idea that there might actually be demons in my room...well, I'm agnostic about that topic, as well...I can just really relate to her experience).

Okay...so...I guess, a question I have is what was your first experience with this stuff and what evidence do you personally rely on to know that it is definitely aliens? Have they spoken to you, or were you ever abducted? I see the topic says you saw "another", so how often do you see them? Do you see them in more than one area?

And what do you think of the theory that they seem to respond to the viewer's intentions? Are they psychic aliens, or just drones with powerful cameras? (I have heard that those cameras are now so powerful that they could count your eyelashes on a cloudy day). Or...are they neurological phenomena? Why does it seem that only certain people can see them?