17-06-2010, 23:08 
	
	
	
		Ok a little history.  I have recently lost 10 lbs then started taking fenugreek, red clover, & saw palmetto. I have felt some pains & I'm slightly fuller but I immediately began gaining weight, especially in my hips & abdomen. So my question is am I right in my understanding that BO doesnt put on the pounds?  Also those who have used both herbs & BO (at different times of course) which had quicker results. I understand everyone is different & you have to find what works for you. Also can u still take msm & collagen stuff with BO?  I am also taking a lot of pills & like the idea of only one pill 3x/day.  Any input would be helpful thx. 
	
	
	
	
	
