[surferjoe2007]

SurferJoe - Thank you. However, please, what are phytoestrogens, what do they do? (sorry but I don't know anything about herbs, I'm just learning). Sorry, just to clarify for me - From your earlier post, are ALL the weak phytoestrogens just fenugreek, shatavari, goat's rue and wild yam. And can I take them now, at 2-25g, whilst my progesterone is low?

Fenugreek, shatavari, goat's rue and wild yam contain steroidal saponins that probably increase sensitivity to all your hormones. They are balancing if anything regardless of what is low and you may take them now at 2-25+g. They are weak at the low end of that range but they can be quite strong at the higher end. And even then they'll balance you out even more not imbalance you. Extracts, sprouts or tea can be helpful for stomaching larger amounts.

There are many many phytoestrogens but a couple common weak ones include red clover and ground flax seeds. I suggest using them after raising your progesterone because even after you even out your hormones you'll have normall progesterone not high progesterone. Or a low dose of stronger phytoestrogens like 100 mg PM or ~1,000 mg hops will be fine too. A 100% progestin birth control like Mirena would provide a progesterone effect and let you use more phytoestrogens.

Natureday is a combination of phytoestrogens, anti-testosterones and steroidal saponins. There are many redundant ingredients that all do one of those 3 things so they can pad their label and look sophisticated. It seems ok, better than many products, but you could get something better and cheaper from buying your own herbs. Regardless I wouldn't use it yet due to the phytoestrogens.