[rawsugar]

Hello everyone,
I'm new. I recently got a Brava (from my doctor) and really underestimated what an absolute pain it is. I've been trying to sleep with it since I work/go to school/run errands during the day, and it's extremely uncomfortable since I virtually never sleep on my back, and I'm pretty sensitive to the suction. I've found myself waking up around 3AM the few nights I've worn it and just taking it off so I can sleep. Not to mention the fact it's so time consuming and I see so many mixed reviews about it. I would hate to suffer so much and waste so much time to find it hadn't worked at all (or worse, given me some kind of physical problem).

I was poking around on this forum and read about the Noogleberry, and my interest was piqued. I'm still waiting to see the before/after pictures on the site, but as far as I can tell, it seems like a much cheaper option, and far less time-invasive. And I haven't seen much negativity about it (if at all).

Could anyone enlighten me more about the Noogleberry and advise me if I should replace my Brava with it? What are the main differences between the two? Any advice in general would be greatly appreciated!

[Karren H]

Welcome! I know what you mean about trying to sleep wearing a suction device.... I have the same problem... but in your case if your sensitive to Bravas suction.... the Noogleberry may be worse... or worse if you raise the pressure.. to me breast growth is all about exposure hours.... the lower the pressure the longer the time... Brava is considered a low pressure device... so if you want the same results in a shorter time or by using it less... you have to up the pressure....

beside the pressure... the main difference is one is automated (Brava) and the Noogle is manual....

[universallove]

welcome to the forum!! Ive tried both noogle and brava. I my opinion I found noogle more time consuming!! the first week of brava is notoriously uncomfortable, but most get used to it (i did, i find it very easy to sleep in now). But then again sleeping on my back is comfortable for me. But i did find the device itself uncomfortable till i got used to it. skin irritation doesnt happen for me at all any more either- since I switched from prep wipes to pure aloe gel- which is the experience of almost all brava users (too bad the company wont tell you this!!) Now they say you can use noogle for just an hr or two a day, but i found this not effective. The only time i got good swelling from noogle was if I wore it at least several hours at a time and was consistant with it (every day). I know some users wear it less hours with good result but this wasnt the case for me at all, also i found I had to use PM cream along with noogle to get the same level of swelling and swelling maintinence that i do with brava- you'll find that this is the case for alot of noogle wearers- PM cream gave me severe headaches and made my hair fall out .

Getting good swelling and getting to the point where the swelling maintains all day (or even several days) is the key to growth according to studies on this method of NBE.

if you find brava hard to sleep in, noogle will be nothing short of impossible!!! Finding several hours a day to wear noogle is tricky - mainly cause you cant really do as much with it on as you can with brava. in the hrs asides from sleeping when your wearing brava, you can do most things around the house and it stay in place without falling off and is easy to wear clothes over. Ive gone out of the house wearing it- but only at night, on quiet streets walking my dog where the only people who would see me were passer bys. and this only when the weather was chilly and i could wear a coat on top and scarf (this disguises it fairly well- noogle is pretty much impossible to disguise effectively tho).

if your worried about a big investment of time and discomfort with no result- as was certainly my concern too! noogle may not help you with that. cause I found with noogle, I really wasted alot of time with no result! and higher pressure gives you stretch marks and stretched nipples too- (noogle gave me severe stretch marks, but i am prone to them) brava is less likely to do this.

Im not sure Ive got result from brava yet though, and i been using it 7 months!! but Ive had plenty of breaks in my program, mainly cause ive had alot of issues with second hand systems- the fact that you have a brand new system will help you stick to the program. But for about 6 weeks now ive been fairly consistant, and Im maintaining swelling really well. I have had a couple of two day breaks in the period and maintained swelling the whole two days which is a good sign that its leading to growth if I can keep it up

you can always try noogle and see how it goes- if you maintain swelling well on it. some people do very short pumping sessions and not even every day and get good results. who knows maybe you'll be one of those poeple??

what sold me on brava, was that it seemed that everyone who used it got at least a small result- so there time wasnt completely wasted!! some people get really good results from it. It seems with noogle there are a good number of people who get zero results, even if there are some who were quite successful. but of course consistancy is the thing with brava!! if you can really committ to probably four months of solid wear. i havent read of anyone who did this without any results at all. they say 10 weeks only is enough but it seems the people who only do 10 weeks are the only ones who report no positive change in their breasts