Happy New Year my dear Lotus!
So, 500mg of Green Tea would benefit PCOS ?
I am going to start this month with Green Tea. Today is my #3 day of period
and I forgot Green Tea has to be taken during follicular phase lol. I'll start tomorrow. I finally chose in liquid extract , it has 50% EGCG.
- My forskolin pills did not arrive so I am looking for another brand xD
I think using Forskolin as a pre-workout supplement will be a great addition, I read it helps with lean body mass.
- Fenugreek powder on its way
I'll split the dose 300mg and 300mg (mid-day and evening)
- I still don't know if I can get a good source of Hyaluronic acid. Been looking into it for weeks but no success yet!
- Progesterone cream = only during luteal I know. A pea size will be enough, right?
-I already incorporated MSM at 1500mg in December, so I will reach 3000mg in February. Took HMB+Carnitine all month as well but I'll stick to using both only during luteal phase as you suggested.
-Taking Vit D as prescribed too, with Magnesium!
Oh and my sleep has improved quite a lot so I am happy about this ^^
(18-01-2023, 07:57 PM)SweetO Wrote: [ -> ]Happy New Year my dear Lotus!
So, 500mg of Green Tea would benefit PCOS ?
Hi Sweets, it's gotta have EGCG at least 45% to benefit pcos and breast growth. I use it and and does wonders for my hrt program.
(18-01-2023, 07:57 PM)SweetO Wrote: [ -> ]6
I am going to start this month with Green Tea. Today is my #3 day of period and I forgot Green Tea has to be taken during follicular phase lol. I'll start tomorrow. I finally chose in liquid extract , it has 50% EGCG.
- My forskolin pills did not arrive so I am looking for another brand xD I think using Forskolin as a pre-workout supplement will be a great addition, I read it helps with lean body mass.
- Fenugreek powder on its way I'll split the dose 300mg and 300mg (mid-day and evening)
- I still don't know if I can get a good source of Hyaluronic acid. Been looking into it for weeks but no success yet!
- Progesterone cream = only during luteal I know. A pea size will be enough, right?
I'm concerned with adding fenugreek knowing it is lowering SHBG now, which goes in the opposite direction of reducing PCOS (we want to increase SHBG in PCOS). Fenugreek is great for reducing blood sugar, insulin resistance and other good things. Maybe there's a counter trade off by adding more protein to offset the difference?...I don't know, you'd have to experiment if you're comfortable doing so, or just hold off on the Fenugreek till later and be patient (which is advisable).
Sex hormone-binding globulin and polycystic ovary syndrome
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...via%3Dihub
Progesterone lowers SHBG too, so I'm checking into that...I know (sorry).
(18-01-2023, 07:57 PM)SweetO Wrote: [ -> ]-I already incorporated MSM at 1500mg in December, so I will reach 3000mg in February. Took HMB+Carnitine all month as well but I'll stick to using both only during luteal phase as you suggested.
-Taking Vit D as prescribed too, with Magnesium!
Oh and my sleep has improved quite a lot so I am happy about this ^^
Awesome, I'm so happy for you.
oh boy! How complex it is the human body! Well, at least I can be the guinea pig for al PCOS girls here!
However, if Fenugreek might not work, could Pueraria be a good alternative? Or what herb could work??
About the progesterone, I think it does not hurt anyone at least. Or my experience with it (using just 8 days during luteal phase and just once a day) has been positive. Whenever I use progesterone in breast or wrists, I get tingly sensations in my chest. Like that feeling we experience when we go through puberty, same.
Hey again
Lotus, I am interested in getting a healthier adrenal function. I don't know if that is possible or treatable besides having a good diet, sleeping, working out, managing stress, etc. I don't know if that could help me with breast development either, but at least if helps me control my T levels I'd be happy with it.
I cut of sugars except fruit, I am working on a anti-inflammatory diet, improved my sleep, I work out 4-5 a week but I am a disaster with stress management.
Less disaster than I used to because now I know how to cope with it better and I am not always with anxiety symptoms, but I feel when my body has a stress spike. I bet everybody feels that, but I suspect my body is more sensitive to stress (if that makes sense, cause I don't know yet) so it takes me a while to get back neutral sometimes. Working out made huge difference on me on feeling weak and stressed AF during the week, but sometimes I feel like that overwhelming effect in my body (for instance with deadlines at work!).
I read a lot about adaptogens, turmeric, vitamin B properties...all good for good adrenal health. However right now I am just focusing on improving my diet (it was 70% clean Mediterranean diet, now I am doing about 80% clean meaning no processed foods and 20% ) and controlling insulin spikes. There's a book from a French biochemist - Jessie Inchauspé - I've implemented for a year a now and my cravings are under control thanks to it.
I take Magnesium & Vit D as prescribed (2nd blood test this Thursday, wish me luck with my thyroid haha) but I don't know what else I should do to help my metabolism.
(24-01-2023, 12:43 PM)SweetO Wrote: [ -> ]oh boy! How complex it is the human body! Well, at least I can be the guinea pig for al PCOS girls here! However, if Fenugreek might not work, could Pueraria be a good alternative? Or what herb could work??
Ikr, at least we've mechanic's of PCOS figured out. For as long as I've been researching PCOS it just suddenly dawned on me we're approaching it backwards
(24-01-2023, 12:43 PM)SweetO Wrote: [ -> ]About the progesterone, I think it does not hurt anyone at least. Or my experience with it (using just 8 days during luteal phase and just once a day) has been positive. Whenever I use progesterone in breast or wrists, I get tingly sensations in my chest. Like that feeling we experience when we go through puberty, same.
Funny thing about progesterone, for me taking it in low amounts (100mgs) raises SHBG, it actually may spike DHT. But Taking between 300mg to 400mg (micronized progesterone P4 orally) lowers SHBG and increases free E2 %...which is my goal.
It's possible having addressed PCOS and keeping it under control (checking all the boxes e.g. inhibition of androgens, lowering insulin...etc) we're able to add things like fenugreek/PM without disrupting you're cycle?.
I've been working on gathering research on the differences of breast growth between global population groups groups...as you'd expect the differences are unique. So when we develop NBE programs here one size doesn't fit all. I think going forward we need think in terms of ethnicity groups...or regional groups when developing NBE Programs. You'll see what I mean when I post the research.
(24-01-2023, 07:45 PM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ] (24-01-2023, 12:43 PM)SweetO Wrote: [ -> ]oh boy! How complex it is the human body! Well, at least I can be the guinea pig for al PCOS girls here! However, if Fenugreek might not work, could Pueraria be a good alternative? Or what herb could work??
Ikr, at least we've mechanic's of PCOS figured out. For as long as I've been researching PCOS it just suddenly dawned on me we're approaching it backwards
(24-01-2023, 12:43 PM)SweetO Wrote: [ -> ]About the progesterone, I think it does not hurt anyone at least. Or my experience with it (using just 8 days during luteal phase and just once a day) has been positive. Whenever I use progesterone in breast or wrists, I get tingly sensations in my chest. Like that feeling we experience when we go through puberty, same.
Funny thing about progesterone, for me taking it in low amounts (100mgs) raises SHBG, it actually may spike DHT. But Taking between 300mg to 400mg (micronized progesterone P4 orally) lowers SHBG and increases free E2 %...which is my goal.
It's possible having addressed PCOS and keeping it under control (checking all the boxes e.g. inhibition of androgens, lowering insulin...etc) we're able to add things like fenugreek/PM without disrupting you're cycle?.
I've been working on gathering research on the differences of breast growth between global population groups groups...as you'd expect the differences are unique. So when we develop NBE programs here one size doesn't fit all. I think going forward we need think in terms of ethnicity groups...or regional groups when developing NBE Programs. You'll see what I mean when I post the research.
Wow Lotus thats so interesting about Progesterone guess its a good thing Im taking 2x 200mg bio progesterone a day then! Also totally agree Im very interested to see your results of research of differences between breast growth of different world populations!! Ive always been super interested as to why women of colour particularly black women tend to have much greater growth and stronger reaction to NBE I get so jealous when I see these gorgeous huge busted women of colour because not only are they stunning but their figures are insane!!
Also Id be curious to know if gigantomastia aka macromastia is possible in trans women as everywhere Ive read says its only natal females who can get it/induce it but then I read the other day someone saying it is possible in trans women but just exceedingly RARE so Im confused lol
Hello again!
So first off
BustyP!! You wanna go big or go home !!
haha I like your idea but hey macromastia means like H cup or something like that right?! It's insane
Lotus, yes you are right. I think with PCOS it's key to have stress, inflammation, T levels, sleep, diet as perfect it can be to let the magic happen