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(15-11-2014, 03:44 AM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]
(15-11-2014, 03:31 AM)pom19 Wrote: [ -> ]
(15-11-2014, 03:02 AM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]What many don't know about phytoestrogens is that in some forms it's stronger than E2- Estradiol, where one can find what's used in HRT.

Say ain't so! Yup, it's true. Blush
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Really, it can be stronger than E2-Estradiol?

There's a reason for that, anybody know why?,

Pom, you get a pass. Wink

Huh
Got another one for you please..

hormonal influence if any on DGL LICORICE extract?

Im interested in it for its intestinal healing properties as its ranked up there on top and was concerned about blood pressure rising but they say its not relevant to DGL just only whole licorice.
But what about estrogen?
(16-11-2014, 11:50 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Got another one for you please..

hormonal influence if any on DGL LICORICE extract?

Im interested in it for its intestinal healing properties as its ranked up there on top and was concerned about blood pressure rising but they say its not relevant to DGL just only whole licorice.
But what about estrogen?

(15-11-2014, 03:02 AM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]What many don't know about phytoestrogens is that in some forms it's stronger than E2- Estradiol, where one can find what's used in HRT.

Say ain't so! Yup, it's true. Blush



Hey we have a winner,!!!



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles...po=7.50000

Agonistic and antagonistic estrogens in licorice root (Glycyrrhiza glabra)


Several fractions displayed higher responses than the maximum response obtained with the reference compound, the natural hormone 17β-estradiol (E2).


The roots of licorice are a rich source of flavonoids, in particular, prenylated flavonoids, such as the isoflavan glabridin and the isoflavene glabrene. Fractionation of an ethyl acetate extract from licorice root by centrifugal partitioning chromatography yielded 51 fractions.
One third of the fractions displayed estrogenic activity towards either one or both estrogen receptors (ERs; ERα and ERβ). Glabrene-rich fractions displayed an estrogenic response, predominantly to the ERα. Surprisingly, glabridin did not exert agonistic activity to both ER subtypes. Several fractions displayed higher responses than the maximum response obtained with the reference compound, the natural hormone 17β-estradiol (E2). The estrogenic activities of all fractions, including this so-called superinduction, were clearly ER-mediated, as the estrogenic response was inhibited by 20–60% by known ER antagonists. Most fractions displaying superinduction were rich in flavonoids with single prenylation. Glabridin displayed ERα-selective antagonism, similar to the ERα-selective antagonist RU 58668. Whereas glabridin was able to reduce the estrogenic response of E2 by approximately 80% at 6 × 10−6 M, glabrene-rich fractions only exhibited agonistic responses, preferentially on ERα.
(16-11-2014, 11:50 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Got another one for you please..

hormonal influence if any on DGL LICORICE extract?

Im interested in it for its intestinal healing properties as its ranked up there on top and was concerned about blood pressure rising but they say its not relevant to DGL just only whole licorice.
But what about estrogen?

Yes, its like an adrenal hormone, very tricky stuff, it squashes T receptors and increases E receptors. DGL has less side-effects because glycyrrhizic acid is removed, aka deglycyrrhizinated.
(17-11-2014, 12:07 AM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]
(16-11-2014, 11:50 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Got another one for you please..

hormonal influence if any on DGL LICORICE extract?

Im interested in it for its intestinal healing properties as its ranked up there on top and was concerned about blood pressure rising but they say its not relevant to DGL just only whole licorice.
But what about estrogen?

Yes, its like an adrenal hormone, very tricky stuff, it squashes T receptors and increases E receptors.
Hmm ok dissapointed to hear that..
Thank you for clearing that up
(17-11-2014, 12:09 AM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]
(17-11-2014, 12:07 AM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]
(16-11-2014, 11:50 PM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]Got another one for you please..

hormonal influence if any on DGL LICORICE extract?

Im interested in it for its intestinal healing properties as its ranked up there on top and was concerned about blood pressure rising but they say its not relevant to DGL just only whole licorice.
But what about estrogen?

Yes, its like an adrenal hormone, very tricky stuff, it squashes T receptors and increases E receptors.
Hmm ok dissapointed to hear that..
Thank you for clearing that up

Allergies to soy in general may cause NBE users to have issues, including Licorice Root.
SPEAKING OF SOY ( i know i know stop shouting)

What/how is "honest to goodness soybeans organic/non GMO and fermented " soy good for health and/or NBE ? Ie tradditional miso..

Putting aside any thyroid implications too.

Thanks
(17-11-2014, 12:18 AM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]SPEAKING OF SOY ( i know i know stop shouting)

What/how is "honest to goodness soybeans organic/non GMO and fermented " soy good for health and/or NBE ? Ie tradditional miso..

Putting aside any thyroid implications too.

Thanks

That's a good question, it's hard to find an un-biased study or report, this is a good long read though thats a good analysis.

Effects of Soy on Health Outcomes
http://archive.ahrq.gov/clinic/epcsums/soysum.htm
(17-11-2014, 12:35 AM)Lotus Wrote: [ -> ]
(17-11-2014, 12:18 AM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: [ -> ]SPEAKING OF SOY ( i know i know stop shouting)

What/how is "honest to goodness soybeans organic/non GMO and fermented " soy good for health and/or NBE ? Ie tradditional miso..

Putting aside any thyroid implications too.

Thanks

That's a good question, it's hard to find an un-biased study or report, this is a good long read though thats a good analysis.

Effects of Soy on Health Outcomes
http://archive.ahrq.gov/clinic/epcsums/soysum.htm

Based on that then i have no issues consuming the good soy then for its nutritional value. Thanks Smile
Since PM pueraria mifirica is a member of the family Leguminosaea, sub-family Papilionoideae, belonging to the soybean and pea sub-family of plants, I think we should take a deep look into soy,
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Don't be alarmed: read the article,

EATING SOY CAN KILL YOU! Scan the media reports and surf the Internet, and you’re bound to come across scary claims that would lead you to believe this is true. You may have heard:

Soy will give you breast cancer.
Soy formula is dangerous to babies.
Genetically modified soy foods may modify you.
Soy foods block your thyroid function.
Soy prevents the absorption of minerals and interferes with digestion.
Tofu causes Alzheimer’s disease.

http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/08/06/how-s...ife/#close

#3 “Soy is a Thyroid Poison”

I think this claim makes a mountain out of a molehill. Yes, there’s no doubt that soy can affect your thyroid gland — the real question is, how much does it take? If you’ve read that soy is bad for your thyroid, you’re probably reading claims based on a few poorly-designed studies that have been blown out of proportion.

Instead, consider this: A review of the research found no significant effects of soy on the thyroid except in people who are iodine deficient — a condition that is rare in this country.

Another well-designed study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (iii) studied the effect of realistic amounts of soy protein on hormones, including thyroid hormone. It found that soy had no significant effects on these hormones.

Based on my assessment of this and other research, I am convinced that normal amounts of traditional soy foods pose no risk to thyroid function.

#4 “Fermented Soy is Better than Non-fermented Soy”

Now here’s a claim that DOES have some basis in fact. That’s because soybeans — along with other beans, nuts, and seeds — contain compounds called phytates, which bind to minerals inside your body and contain some potentially harmful compounds.

The Asian cultures that have traditionally consumed soy typically ferment it first. This process breaks soy down and makes it easier to digest. Plus, fermentation adds extra nutrients and probiotics (“good” bacteria) to soy. For these reasons, I prefer fermented soy foods, like miso, natto, tempeh, tofu and some brands of soy milk.

So, should you eat soy? My answer is YES — but with two very important guidelines:
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