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I m just wondering if someone didn t see any breast enlargement by taking birth control,will then see progress with PM or other estrogenic herbs?how s so?

my breasts are very small because I don t store any fat on my upper body.I am a skinny pear shape.Can I have results with NBE herbs?

is the hormonal profile that decides if NBE will work for some and not for others?

I had major growth from PM while on depo....still am doing both.

Why?.....Not sure,just more balance of hormones,I guess. The ladies that know the more scientific aspect of this can answer that better. give them time and they will,so I will keep this bumped for you.

Hi chocogirl,

My elder daughter had a growth spurt on a 30 mg bcp that has ethinylestradiol as the estrogen. That is a very powerful one. Some people do not grow on bcp because their bcp was not selected for NBE. A few guidelines: progesterone only bcp are useful in case of estrogen dominance, PCOS, tubular or underdeveloped breasts. In all other cases, try a combination bcp. A strong estrogen at high dose works best for NBE.

Herbs alter your hormonal profile, so the profile cannot be the cause of poor results from an herb program. Usually, nutrition, vitamins, exercise, and medication are the boundary conditions you need to get right for an herbal program to work. The program itself needs to manage a dozen hormones, so herbal programs are not easy to balance. In my program thread, you can read that this is a daily concern.

(22-11-2011, 05:05 PM)Isabelle Wrote: [ -> ]Hi chocogirl,

My elder daughter had a growth spurt on a 30 mg bcp that has ethinylestradiol as the estrogen. That is a very powerful one. Some people do not grow on bcp because their bcp was not selected for NBE. A few guidelines: progesterone only bcp are useful in case of estrogen dominance, PCOS, tubular or underdeveloped breasts. In all other cases, try a combination bcp. A strong estrogen at high dose works best for NBE.

Herbs alter your hormonal profile, so the profile cannot be the cause of poor results from an herb program. Usually, nutrition, vitamins, exercise, and medication are the boundary conditions you need to get right for an herbal program to work. The program itself needs to manage a dozen hormones, so herbal programs are not easy to balance. In my program thread, you can read that this is a daily concern.

If this forum had a like button,I'd so hit it for this reply Isabelle!

Thank you Mel

I took yasmin (drospirenone 3mg/ethinylestradiol 0.03mg)for a year and 3 years later I took diane 35 (2 mg cyproterone acetate is combined with 0,035 mg ethinylestradiol)for 6months without any BE effects just some swelling.

Does this say anything about my chances to grow on PM?

I was thinking of taking PM on days 7-14 and days 19-24 like GorgeousBlonde ,what do you think?
all my life I had irregural circles 5-6 weeks and sometimes 4weeks.I just don't want to inhibit ovulation and interfere with my hormones more than needed.

Hi chocogirl,

If 30-35 micrograms of ethinylestradiol didn't help, I certainly wouldn't start PM. Did your cycles become regular on those bcp? First fix the cycle problem, then NBE.

How is your diet plus multivitamin? You should get:
25 mg iron for the blood loss
2-10 mg vitamin B6
>50 mcg vitamin B12
12-35 mg zinc
400 mcg folic acid
200 mg vitamin C

my cycles were normal while I got the pill but went back to what they used to be when I stopped.Sorry Diane doesn t have 35mg of ethinyl estradiol but 0.035mg I ll edit my previous post.
My diet is balanced but I find it hard to put on weight on my upper body.
When I first started useing Diane I spotted the first month ,sth that didn t happen wih yasmin maybe because of cyproterone.

Doesn't matter, chocogirl,

I got it wrong in my previous post too: I wrote 30 mg instead of 30 mcg. That looks like an impossibly low dose to me, but it just illustrates how strong ethinylestradiol is.

I'm not a fan of cyproterone acetate. It's just my opinion, but I think it's a major cause of depression among post-op transsexuals. That's because it's not only a progestin, but a strong anti-androgen too. It blocks the path to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) completely, and the brain needs DHT to build its resistance against stress. But don't worry: transsexuals get 100 mg, and you only 2 mg, and you also have progesterone to help you cope with stress; they don't.

That said, combination bcps did regulate your cycle. Are you prepared to go back on one? Run.Rabbit runs a regular cycle on PM and bc. Without bc, BelaBrasil is the only one who is happy with how she can keep her natural cycle running on PM. If you really want to start PM, search for their posts to learn how they do it.

But if ethinylestradiol didn't grow you breasts, PM won't either. If your diet is not the reason, how about exercise, medication, or weight loss?

Sorry to be so inquisitive, and you probably wrote it somewhere already, but do you have symptoms of androgen dominance (break outs, scalp hair loss, facial or body hair? Then try hops or saw palmetto.

PCOS, tubular or underdeveloped breasts? If this describes you, I wouldn't look to phyto-estrogens like PM, but I would think fenugreek and phyto-progestins, like fennel. Certainly if you have symptoms of estrogen dominance, like headaches, foggy thinking, low libido or a depressed mood. Have you filled out dr. Lee's hormone imbalance test already?
http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_...etest.html

Isabelle I have none of this symptoms that could indicate a hormonal deficiency or dominance,just irregular cycles.

' If your diet is not the reason, how about exercise, medication, or weight loss?'

no weight loss, I do moderate exercise with lifting weights but not chest exercises and not regularly.I don t smoke and don t take any medication.

' if ethinylestradiol didn't grow you breasts, PM won't either. '

so should most women on BCP grow breasts ?otherwise phytoestrogens can t work for them?
in that case why should women get PM in order to grow and not just BCP?
I am disappointed because I m waiting my siriporn pills to arrive.