When I decided to give NBE another try, I was sure I was going to go with Wonder Up (and Noogleberry, which I've already been using). I used WU in the past for three months and gained 1 1/4" - and the first inch of that was obtained just within the first month! Needless to say, it worked very well for me in the short time I used it. The problem with it was that I became estrogen dominant while taking it and started experiencing negative side-effects (headaches, foggy/cloudy mind, very tired, etc). Naturally, my hormones are balanced and I am not estrogen dominant. I was even taking less than the recommended dosage of WU. I ramped up to the 6 pills per day and noticed that I had felt more "going on" when I was only taking 3 or 4 pills per day than when I took 6. I basically alternated between 4 and 5 pills during the time that I obtained growth. But still, even with that, I became estrogen dominant to the point where I had to quit taking it.
After that, I tried a program of fewer individual herbs because I felt I had more control over how much I was getting. Looking back at my program page on the old forum, I was using mainly small doses of fenugreek (since I'm pretty sure that was a lot of what was causing me problems), fennel, and hops. It seems I only stuck with that program for about 15 days and experienced 1/4" increase during that time. However, I posted that I was feeling seemingly even worse than I did when I was on WU so I quit taking that too. I had taken a one month break between the WU and the individual herbs and had done a liver cleanse and drank a detox tea for that entire month, but I'm sure I had to have still been ED. One month surely isn't enough time for hormones to balance out again after something like that.
So what I'm wondering is - since I can apparently fairly easily become estrogen dominant, do you think I would be better off trying only a few individual herbs, rather than trying WU again? I keep wanting to go with WU because I know it worked for me before (and fast!) but I would much rather my growth come slower and be able to maintain my health and continue my program, than to take something that will give me fast results but I have to stop taking it after a short time, and I mess my hormones up in the process. I'm also thinking though that I could still try WU and just take an even smaller dose. In my program page, I noted that I felt tingles and pains even at the time that I was in the process of ramping up and only taking 2 WU pills a day! So would me taking small amounts of individual herbs really be any better/different than just taking a smaller dosage of WU?
Any thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated! If I'm going to go with WU I need to order it within the next day or two in order for it to arrive on time, so I feel rushed in making my decision. I should also note that I'm currently on Beyaz (estrogen and progrestrone) birth control pills. I've read that some think it's best to take an estrogen-only BCP while taking WU but I have decided to stay on Beyaz while doing my NBE program, unless I can definitely tell it's hindering results.
ETA: Also note that I had taken a PM product before WU and I'm pretty sure that contributed to the ED. I definitely believe that PM is just too strong for me. So the WU may not have "caused" my ED. Maybe if I hadn't taken PM before it, I would have been fine.
After that, I tried a program of fewer individual herbs because I felt I had more control over how much I was getting. Looking back at my program page on the old forum, I was using mainly small doses of fenugreek (since I'm pretty sure that was a lot of what was causing me problems), fennel, and hops. It seems I only stuck with that program for about 15 days and experienced 1/4" increase during that time. However, I posted that I was feeling seemingly even worse than I did when I was on WU so I quit taking that too. I had taken a one month break between the WU and the individual herbs and had done a liver cleanse and drank a detox tea for that entire month, but I'm sure I had to have still been ED. One month surely isn't enough time for hormones to balance out again after something like that.
So what I'm wondering is - since I can apparently fairly easily become estrogen dominant, do you think I would be better off trying only a few individual herbs, rather than trying WU again? I keep wanting to go with WU because I know it worked for me before (and fast!) but I would much rather my growth come slower and be able to maintain my health and continue my program, than to take something that will give me fast results but I have to stop taking it after a short time, and I mess my hormones up in the process. I'm also thinking though that I could still try WU and just take an even smaller dose. In my program page, I noted that I felt tingles and pains even at the time that I was in the process of ramping up and only taking 2 WU pills a day! So would me taking small amounts of individual herbs really be any better/different than just taking a smaller dosage of WU?
Any thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated! If I'm going to go with WU I need to order it within the next day or two in order for it to arrive on time, so I feel rushed in making my decision. I should also note that I'm currently on Beyaz (estrogen and progrestrone) birth control pills. I've read that some think it's best to take an estrogen-only BCP while taking WU but I have decided to stay on Beyaz while doing my NBE program, unless I can definitely tell it's hindering results.
ETA: Also note that I had taken a PM product before WU and I'm pretty sure that contributed to the ED. I definitely believe that PM is just too strong for me. So the WU may not have "caused" my ED. Maybe if I hadn't taken PM before it, I would have been fine.
