25-07-2012, 11:32 AM
Thank you GorgeousBlonde
And welcome jesse191,
At normal NBE doses, there will be no effect. Even if there is one at high doses, it will be reversible.
I'm not a fan of red clover. The publication you linked says it's 50/50 phyto-estrogens/phyto-progestins. The progestins are not useful for a male starting NBE. They also limit the dose of estrogens you can take without stopping your growth.
All herbs in that study were tested at 2,000 mg. So at that dose, it's effective. You have to compare your body weight to the average body weight of the test subjects in the study. If you weigh more, you need more.
Red clover is one of the expensive herbs. The capsules are only 375 mg, which means you need at least five. A bottle of 100 will last 20 days at best. At $ 6.29, that's $ 10 a month. I take eight herbs and a multivitamin, and the whole program costs € 20 a month, that's $ 30.
And welcome jesse191,
At normal NBE doses, there will be no effect. Even if there is one at high doses, it will be reversible.
I'm not a fan of red clover. The publication you linked says it's 50/50 phyto-estrogens/phyto-progestins. The progestins are not useful for a male starting NBE. They also limit the dose of estrogens you can take without stopping your growth.
All herbs in that study were tested at 2,000 mg. So at that dose, it's effective. You have to compare your body weight to the average body weight of the test subjects in the study. If you weigh more, you need more.
Red clover is one of the expensive herbs. The capsules are only 375 mg, which means you need at least five. A bottle of 100 will last 20 days at best. At $ 6.29, that's $ 10 a month. I take eight herbs and a multivitamin, and the whole program costs € 20 a month, that's $ 30.