05-11-2011, 08:32 AM
Good morning Susan,
I take maca first thing in the morning with the vitamin. Then a cup of goat's rue tea. At noon, I have the fenugreek, and another cup of goat's rue tea. Sometimes, I have a nap after the fenugreek. An hour before bed time, I take the hops and the third cup of goat's rue tea.
I went to Amsterdam yesterday, and took fenugreek and goat's rue later in the afternoon. That caused a sugar craving. Ate almost a tin of syrup cookies. I never take the teas before I go out, because in my experience, they are all diuretic.
Before I started checking my supplements, I slept a lot, almost 10 hours. After decreasing vitamin B6 below 10 mg a day, I need 7 1/2 hours. After stopping glucosamine, my waist slimmed fast the first month, but I took fenugreek too. I once stopped niacin because I got flushes. When I took a lot of vitamin C, I always got a cold if for some reason I stopped vitamin C for a few days. Then I went down to 200 mg.
My younger daughter got a slow thyroid because of a vegan diet we tried. She doesn't like the taste of soy milk. The soy milk has added vitamins B6 and B12. She also has a sweet tooth, so she didn't get a lot of iodine from the salt and the bread. We just stopped the vegan experiment, and her thyroid hormones returned to normal.
So I made some of changes because of symptoms and panels, but I started looking at all supplements systematically during my break in June. I wrote about symptoms in the early pages of this thread, and I stopped the supplements one by one with a few days in between. I don't remember any other dramatic effects than the ones I listed above, though.
Since April 30th of this year, it has become practically illegal to produce or import megadose vitamins in the EU. The shelves can be emptied, but that's it. My "super hair formula", with 100 mg vitamin B6, is a sleeping pill. The most extreme case I've seen is Solgar's PM phytogen complex, which contains only a symbolic amount of PM, but 40,000 % of the Recommended Dietary Allowance of vitamin B12. Some vendors are still emptying the shelves, but I'm happy the 2002 EU directive has finally put an end to supplements like that.
I'm still using a stock of vitamins I have, but after that, I'll be looking for something that has exactly the amounts that I want. For most, I'll just follow the Recommended Dietary Allowances for pregnant and breastfeeding women, or for teenage girls, whichever is higher. For zinc, vitamins B6 and B12, and folic acid, I may be prepared to go higher.
I recognize what you feel. I think it's the fenugreek, and maybe the goat's rue. Like someone is pulling me gently by the nipples and I follow along
I take maca first thing in the morning with the vitamin. Then a cup of goat's rue tea. At noon, I have the fenugreek, and another cup of goat's rue tea. Sometimes, I have a nap after the fenugreek. An hour before bed time, I take the hops and the third cup of goat's rue tea.
I went to Amsterdam yesterday, and took fenugreek and goat's rue later in the afternoon. That caused a sugar craving. Ate almost a tin of syrup cookies. I never take the teas before I go out, because in my experience, they are all diuretic.
Before I started checking my supplements, I slept a lot, almost 10 hours. After decreasing vitamin B6 below 10 mg a day, I need 7 1/2 hours. After stopping glucosamine, my waist slimmed fast the first month, but I took fenugreek too. I once stopped niacin because I got flushes. When I took a lot of vitamin C, I always got a cold if for some reason I stopped vitamin C for a few days. Then I went down to 200 mg.
My younger daughter got a slow thyroid because of a vegan diet we tried. She doesn't like the taste of soy milk. The soy milk has added vitamins B6 and B12. She also has a sweet tooth, so she didn't get a lot of iodine from the salt and the bread. We just stopped the vegan experiment, and her thyroid hormones returned to normal.
So I made some of changes because of symptoms and panels, but I started looking at all supplements systematically during my break in June. I wrote about symptoms in the early pages of this thread, and I stopped the supplements one by one with a few days in between. I don't remember any other dramatic effects than the ones I listed above, though.
Since April 30th of this year, it has become practically illegal to produce or import megadose vitamins in the EU. The shelves can be emptied, but that's it. My "super hair formula", with 100 mg vitamin B6, is a sleeping pill. The most extreme case I've seen is Solgar's PM phytogen complex, which contains only a symbolic amount of PM, but 40,000 % of the Recommended Dietary Allowance of vitamin B12. Some vendors are still emptying the shelves, but I'm happy the 2002 EU directive has finally put an end to supplements like that.
I'm still using a stock of vitamins I have, but after that, I'll be looking for something that has exactly the amounts that I want. For most, I'll just follow the Recommended Dietary Allowances for pregnant and breastfeeding women, or for teenage girls, whichever is higher. For zinc, vitamins B6 and B12, and folic acid, I may be prepared to go higher.
I recognize what you feel. I think it's the fenugreek, and maybe the goat's rue. Like someone is pulling me gently by the nipples and I follow along