chelle choi's program

Eve M · 25-01-2022, 01:42 AM

Jul 13, 2006#1
Starting stats January 3, 2006

Under bust: 28 inches
Over bust: 31 inches
Bra size: 32AA
Weight: 106 lbs.
Height: 5'3"

I took 2 Bountiful Breast pills/day-one in morning/one before 6pm on empty stomach
1-2 whey protein drinks/day (20g protein each)
2-EPO/day (1000mg each)
2-FSO/day (1000mg each)
2-Royal Jelly/day (500mg each)
2-L-Tyrosine (500mg each)
3-Kelp (450mcg total)
2-DIM Plus/day
1-Multivitamin(hair/nails/skin)

I also massaged my smaller breast 2xday with just regular body lotion for the first 4 months, until I found this forum and read about Cocoa Butter/vit E and started massaging with that and I try to do 400 chi rotations in teh morning(wrap with saran wrap for 20 min), then at night another 400 chi rotations, wrap up with saran and use the heating pad for 10-15 min on low heat.

I did take a break for 2 weeks in April, after purchasing the flat to fab book, since I had been on Bountiful for 3 months at this time and thought I needed a break, but it seemed to slow my growth down after that, so I don't think taking a break with bovine ovary is such a good idea maybe.

My stats as of now:

Under bust: 28 inches
Over bust: 34.5 inches
Bra size: 32B (1/2inch more i should be a 32C)
Weight: 109lbs.

In January the first month I grew: 1 inch
In February I didn't grow at all. Sad

In March I grew 1 inch (made up for Feb. Smile

In April I grew 1/2 inch after my break
In May I grew 1/2 inch
In June I grew 1/2 inch

Total: 3 1/2inches

I'm taking a break now so that I can hopefully get my smaller side to catch up with just massaging with Natureday enlargement cream, so we'll see. Smile

I've only been using it for 3 days now.

I'm going to try this for at least a month, then probably go back on the Bovine Ovary. Maybe starting all over again I can have the same results I had in the beginning before. My goal is to become a 32D. or maybe DD if I get greedy. Smile

I'll tell ya when I first started Bountiful my goal was a 32C and now that I'm almost there, a C doesn't seem as big as I thought. Maybe cause my band size is only 32 so a C doesn't look as big on me as it does on someone who has band size 34 or so.

Good luck to everyone and I wish you much success in your journey to boobie growings!!

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Unread postJul 13, 2006#2
I forgot to put that I was also taking Vitamin E and Selenium every day.
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Unread postJul 13, 2006#3

Sorry I forgot to say that I'm also a heavy smoker (1 1/2 packs a day) have tried to quit like 3 times and I also drink caffiene soda drinks (about 2-3 every day) and tea on occasions.
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Unread postJul 13, 2006#4

Hi Chelle: I looked at your pictures and program, you look amazing! Do you mind I ask you how old you are, whether you have kids? How about your diet? Are you also eat chicken-feet soup? I'm as similar build as yours 5'4", 101lb, 37 yr. When I started NBE in March ( I followed the routine from FlatToFab book), my statis was 28 under and 31.5 over bust; now after 4 months into NBE, I only gain 1/4" to say the most. I started with 34AA and now I'm still 34AA. It's frustrating!!! :-(

I started to eat boobie friendly food and pressure massage (in addition to the CHI massage) two weeks ago as I try to follow routines from Tiger Lily and Fengshui, while I'm still taking FG, SP and RC every day ( 3 times/day), 1 EPO and 1 Borage Oil, multi-vitamin pill daily.

Sorry to burden you with all the questions. I try to convince myself NBE works and I shouldn't give up yet.

I list my email address, if you prefer, you can email me directly. Thanks! :-)

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chelle_choi
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Unread postJul 14, 2006#5

Hi Landoline,

Thank you for the compliment. Smile

And please feel free to ask me questions any time, you are not burdening me at all. Smile

I would like to feel like I'm helping out in any way I can. I am 32 years old, I have one son (almost 3 yr. old). Yes, we do have similar stats and your bust measurement is almost at where mine started out. As far as diet, I have never tried the chicken feet, but I have said recently that I'm amazed at tigerlily's and fengshui's success in just massaging and eating the right boobie foods. Who would of known we could grow just from that, right? I do try to eat a lot of protein everyday though. For breakfast I would usually take my bountiful pill on empty stomach along with my protein drink (total about 200 calories), then an hour later I would eat an egg or two(for extra protein/fat), before lunch and dinner I usually also eat a small handful of soy nuts (for extra protein/fat), I usually eat a lot of beans also for protein. About an hour or two before dinner I would always take my second bountiful pill along with another protein drink. Sometimes, I even eat a small peanut butter sandwich (wheat bread not white) or just eat a tablespoon of peanut butter for a snack(for extra protein and fat of course). In the past six months I've only gained 3 pounds so that's not much and I needed a little weight (according to my mom anyhow Smile

I try not to eat past 9pm though. Don't want to gain too much. Smile

I'm happy right where I'm at.

I believe when I first started bountiful by BMI was less than 19 at the time and I still gained an inch of growth my first month on it. I know they say it's good to at least have your BMI at 19, but I still grew on the bovine ovary.

I'm sorry that you're frustrated that you haven't grown like you've wanted in the past 4 months, but if anything you deserve a big pat on the back for keeping at it and not giving up, so Congratulations on not giving up and being persistent. Because I believe there is a way to grow for everyone out there, they just have to find the right method that works for them. If you were going by the flat2fab book, then did you already try ramping up your herbs?? Did you ever feel tingles or anything on any dosage that you were on? If you did ramp up and nothing worked, did you try substituting any of the herbs already? Plus, I read somewhere on here that you're giving Tigerlily/Fengshui's routine 3 months and if that doesn't work you're giving up (is that right?) Before doing that have you ever thought of trying the bovine ovary? I know bountiful breast is way too expensive (which i didn't know at the time when i first started what it was actually and that i could get it much cheaper), I don't know if you read in my other threads, but I mentioned botanicalbeautylab.com which sells a 3 month supply of bovine ovary for $72. Also, I think on the other forum (beboard) someone said something like bovine ovary seems to work better on smaller/skinnier people than herbs do. Which I know all shapes and sizes have grown on herbs, so I don't know how true that is. I have a very fast metabolism and it's hard for me to gain weight, so that's why I also took EPO and FSO everyday (as bountiful breast suggested). And see I also smoke too, which doesn't work too well with herbs, so bovine ovary was a better way for me to go, but I'm sure if I didn't smoke I may have gotten even more results. (oh well, dang nicotine addiction. Smile

But, hopefully tigerlily/fengshui's routine will work for you, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, besides it's only been 2 weeks so it might just take some time. Good luck to you and let me know if you have any more questions. take care.

Michelle
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Unread postJul 14, 2006#6

Hey Michelle: Thank you for your message. It's very thorough and thoughtful. I very much appreciate it. I do feel some tiggling after massaging with EPO oil, although there is no visual growth. Sometimes I look at my pool little breasts in the mirror thinking why going through all these trouble because they may never grow! But thank you and other gals's encouragement I should have faith in them-- I'll give it a try for another 3 months before I decide what to do next. Thanks again and have a wonderful weekend! :-)
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Unread postJul 14, 2006#7

Hi Michelle! Wow! I was impressed by your pictures! I was reading through your posts and I saw what you wrote about bovine ovary working better for skinnier girls? Well, I am the definition of skinny! It's hard for me to gain weight also as I have a pretty fast metabolism. I have just started a routine with Wonderup and herbs and massage. I think maybe if this doesn't work, I will try the bovine ovaries. However, I do wonder about how safe they are. It seems like if they work so well and are completely safe, everybody would be using them. Do they not work for everybody? Have you noticed any side effects? For some reason, it sounds scarier to put cow ovaries in me than herbs. But I could be totally wrong! Also, I am only 18 and am pretty new to this, but I was hoping that since I am younger the herbs would work better for me. But I am so thin and my BMI is definitely below 19, I'm not sure that I have enough fat to make the herbs work! Do you know any other girls who have had success with bovine ovaries, and did they experience any side effects? Sorry, I just don't know anything about this, and websites can tell you all they want, but I would rather hear it from an actual person you know? And I've been on sooo many phony websites claiming natural breast enhancement that doesn't even work! Could you please tell me more about these bovine ovaries and their safeness/effectiveness? Oh, and I am also on birth control pills (estrogen and progestin) do you think the ovaries would have any effect on my birth control pills? Thank you so much, I would LOOOOVE to get to where you are in your pictures!
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chelle_choi
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Unread postJul 14, 2006#8

Hi Lani,

I hope I can answer most or all your questions. Smile

About bovine working better on skinnier girls...I had read that somewhere I think on the other forum (http://beboard.proboards23.com), like I said I don't know if that's true or not, but it seemed to work for me. To be honest with you I'm not sure just how safe the Bovine is, I didn't actually know that what I was taking was cow ovaries, until I was reading it on the other forum about 2 months ago and hey I was already getting results, didn't think much about it. And like someone here said, sometimes the foods that we eat may be more dangerous than the pills we're taking, with all the hormones and chemicals they put in the foods. I have not had any side effects at all from the bovine ovary, just a little bit of acne, which I can handle as long as I have results. Smile

Now I do know that a lady from the beboard site (FawnMarie)has had great experience with bovine, i think she went from a b-dd, she tried herbs, but they didn't seem to work for her (think she said she gained too much weight or something with herbs). You could also ask her about the bovine with birth control (I don't take birth control). I'm sure she would know, because she seems very knowledgable on the whole NBE thing. But, you are still pretty young and IMO if I were you I would give Wonderup a good trial, because it may work well for you. Trust me, if I hadn't tried and saw Bountiful breast's site first, then my next 2 choices in line would of either been wonderup or natureday. Wonderup, because of the great results girls have had here (hence the proven pic page Smile

and Natureday, because my sister has been using it for 3 weeks and already has gained an inch. Whenever I go back on the bovine after my break, If i ever come to a stall and don't grow anymore on bovine and i haven't reached my goal yet, then I will definitely be trying natureday or wonderup.

If you're concerned with not having enough weight to produce fat storage in your breasts, I would drink at least 1 protein drink a day, maybe eat some sort of nuts throughtout the day to snack on to get some good fat/protein in your diet. So, I would just increase your fat intake a little, that's what I did cause I know that I have a fast metabolism and before bountiful and would very rarely eat a lot of fatty foods. (once a month before my period i would, had to quinch those chocolate cravings) Smile

Also, I do keep in contact with one of the girls from bountiful breast's site, (keturah) and I know bountiful worked for her also. so far, she went from a small c to a medium d, plus you can look at her pics on www.bountifulbreast.com, you can't tell that much in her before pic because of the shirt she's wearing, but believe me she's grown, cause she just sent me a pic in her bathing suit not too long ago to show me her growth and she's definitely grown! Smile

I want to get to her size definitely and maybe then I'll be happy. Smile

Good luck to you and I wish you much success in growing! Hang in there.

Michelle
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Unread postJul 16, 2006#9

Hello! Thanks for your very informative reply! I am going to give herbs a try first and if I don't have results I am thinking of switcing to bovine ovaries. Just wondering though, have your results been permanent? Have you lost any of your gains? I read that one girl did well on it but then lost it all and they wouldn't take her testimonial off the website! How long have you been off BO and have you noticed any changes since then? Thanks for all your help!
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Unread postJul 18, 2006#10

Hey Lani,

Sorry I was just now able to get back to you. To answer your question, no I have not lost any of my gains on BO. I even took a break the first 2 wks of April and did not lose any then either, I actually gained 1/2 inch at the end of April after being back on BO for only 2 weeks from my break. Now I have been off of BO for the past 2 weeks and I have not lost anything. In fact, I just measured today since it is day 5 of my cycle and I'm 1/4 inch bigger, so I'm now measuring 34.75 inches. Hopefully I'll keep the 1/4 inch, because all I'm doing as of right now is massaging with the Natureday enlargement cream. so we'll see. Smile

I plan on going back on BO in a couple of weeks probably. But, so far so good I haven't lost anything. Smile

take care and good luck to you on Wonderup. I know how anxious you must be, I was very anxious starting Bountiful breast, but once I saw I had grown in only 3 wks of starting it, I felt better and knew it was working, but even though you see results it still takes a lot of patience. I was measuring like every day, now I've learned to just measure once a month. (day5)and let nature take it's course (or pills rather) Smile

Good luck!!

Michelle Choi

Eve M · 25-01-2022, 01:43 AM

I'm starting back my on my bo routine again after like a 4 1/2 wks. break. Couldn't get the left smaller side to catch up any with just massage and using cocoa butter/vit e and natureday enlargement cream.

I still measure 34.5 inches around my bust.
I've lost a couple of pounds so I'm now just 107lbs.

So here's my new schedule:

10am-2Ginzing (for energy)
2L-tyrosine--1000mg total
3 Kelp--450mcg total

1030-11am--Breakfast
400ui-vit E
Multi vitamin
Horsetail grass cap (hair/nails)
200mcg-Selenium
2 flax,fish and borage pills

12-1230pm--2 BB pills/protein drink/250mg VitC/1 papaya enzyme tablet

130-2pm---Lunch
Horsetail grass cap
Evening primrose oil--1000mg
Royal Jelly---500 mg
1 gelatin cap
3:30pm--2 saw palmetto (900mg total)

530pm--1 bb pill/1 protein drink/250mg vit c/1 papaya enzyme drink

7-730pm--Dinner
Horsetail grass cap
Evening primrose oil--1000mg
Royal Jelly---500mg

9pm--drink 1 gelatine drink

Before bed: massage with 30 drops of natureday liquid drops and 1/2 teaspoon of natureday enlargement cream. Doing 200 chi rotations on left smaller side only. Then I put on saran wrap for 20-30 minutes.

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Unread postAug 17, 2006#12

wow, your pix look great. congrats! Im 19 and a small A. im going to start taking evegen plus fenugreek, saw palmetto, and wild yam. i hope that will help me grow at least one or two cups.. what do you think with everything im going to be taking? also a multivitamin.
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Unread postAug 17, 2006#13

Thank you for the compliment. Smile

You said you were going to be taking Everen AND fenugreek, wild yam, and Saw p? Along with the everen pills? I have never heard of Everen and have never heard of anyone having success with that one. I looked it up online and it already has fenugreek, saw p, and wild yam in it, along with lots of other stuff. So I would just be sure of the exact amts. it has of each of those before adding anything extra. You want to start with low dosages and then slowly ramp up til you feel signs in your breasts. I'm no expert though on the herb thing. Although, I've learned a lot from reading on here, bountiful breast is not herbs so that's why my knowledge is limited on herbs. A lot of ladies on here have had success with herbs and look great. So I would maybe check out their routines and see what amnts. they started with and when they started to ramp up and so forth. Good luck to you and I hope that you reach your goal! Smile

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Unread postAug 18, 2006#14

thanks for your reply, its just that a lot of the girls on here said that they know that evegen doesnt a high dosage of herbs, so i dont know if i should just take an extra one or two pills of evegen or evegen plus individual herbs.
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Unread postAug 26, 2006#15

hi michelle, do you know what ingredients are in your bountiful breast pills?
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Unread postAug 26, 2006#16

Hi Gisselle,

Yes the ingredients are bovine ovary, pituitary gland substance and kelp. A little info on bovine ovary that I got from the beboard discussion forum: "I believe that Bovine Ovary works in several different ways - 1) by increasing estrogen, 2) by stimulating the natural production of both estrogen and progesterone 3) by providing enzymes and nutrients needed and that it affects the pituitary to produce higher levels of lutenizing hormone. I think the enzymes are the key, because of the way that Bovine Ovary is produced."

Also some info I got there as well about the pituitary glandular:

"The pituitary glandular is to stimulate the pituitary gland to produce growth hormone. Even with good nutrition, your body doesn't always produce as much growth hormone as you do when you're 13. It also produces prolactin and a range of other hormones that can be useful for BE."

And some info I researched myself on kelp:

The seaweed also known as kelp stimulates the thyroid and will aid and relieve breast problems related to a low thyroid function,

Kelp has also been found to be beneficial for brain and spinal cord function, and for blood circulation. Also, due to its iodine content, it may help to normalize thyroid function.

Hope this helps. Smile

I know I didn't know anything about what I was taking or what was actually in the pills until I started researching and found these discussion forums.

There are other brands that are much cheaper than bountiful, but I don't think they have the pituitary glandular substance in them. But I'm sure you could probably get that Alot cheaper also if it's needed.

Good luck to you!! Smile

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Joyce

Unread postAug 28, 2006#17

Hiya,

I found this forum very inspirational and interesting, especially ur messages, which i found very encouraging! However i am writing to request some help! I am 22yrs old, with a 32A bust size which i am extremely sad about Sad

I am aware of the numerous amounts of natural herbal bust enhancers that are available online such as Erdic, Wonderup, BGP and BS...and have read and re-read the testimonials etc...the more I read, the more i get confused.... also with the worry that eventhough it states' herbal' it might in fact be harmful to the body and can encourage tumours of cancers and harm the kidney...etc.. anyway my questions are basically.. what is the best brand of breast enhancers to take and also relatively inexpensive!! as well as any advice that you can provide me with ???? looking forward to hearing for you or anyone else...please help?????

J
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Unread postAug 28, 2006#18

Hi Joyce,

I'll try my best to be of some help to you. I'm not as equipped with knowledge on the herbal products, because the bountiful breast that I take is bovine ovary which is totally different. But, from reading and learning here on this forum, I do know that wonderup has produced great results in some women and they have kept their results after discontinuing once they got to their size desired. Everyone else is mostly trying individual herbs and trying to find the right dosage in order for their breasts to grow. A lot of them have been successful at this and have grown really well using this method. I would have to say trying individual herbs would probably be the cheapest method. I think wonderup is about $50 for 1 month supply/100 for 2 month supply. So it's not too expensive. Also try doing a search on here for Natureday to see just how many have had good results from using that, I think a couple of people have. My sister I know started Natureday about 2 months ago. After like 17 days she grew an inch (went from 33 inches around her bust to 34 inches), but she hasn't grown since then yet. I know their prices are pretty inexpensive. They also have before/after pics on their site (natureday.com). I think Greenbush.net has inexpensive prices also.

Now if you're more interested in what I took. There are cheaper brands for that also. Because bountiful is a little expensive. 1 1/2 month supply is like $125. 4 1/2 month supply is like $295 (i think) sometimes you can catch specials with them. (like around holiday time, sometimes they will be like $100 off)Also they sell their pills on amazon.com for much cheaper. Just to let you know. But, other brands of the bovine ovary that's in bountiful breast is Vitamin Power which is sold at www.botanicalbeautylab.com (3 month supply is like $72 i think). The only difference in that one and the one I take is bountiful has pituitary gland substance in it and vitamin power doesn't. I think there was a recent post on here where someone is taking the vitamin power brand from botanical and said she's having results so far. You could just do a search for 'bovine ovary' on here. Other brands that I know of I think are: UltraBreast, DNE.

Hope this helps. I know it can seem confusing to know which program to choose. It is all about trial and error in finding the right routine that works for you. I just happened to get lucky with the first place I chose and thankfully it worked for me.

Good luck to you!! please let me know if you have anymore questions I'll try to answer them the best I can. Smile

Michelle
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Unread postAug 29, 2006#19

I've revised my schedule just a little. I started back on bountiful breast Aug. 6th and since Aug. 20th I have been measuring 34.75 instead of 34.50, I kept thinking that it's just swelling, but so far it's stayed. I'll measure again on day 5 of my cycle which isn't until about 14 days from now.

930-10am--2 Ginzing (energy)/2 tyrosine (1000mg total)/2 kelp (300mcg total)
2 saw palmetto (1150mg total)/1 gelatine drink

1030-11am--2 BB pills/whey protein drink(25g)/vit c (250mg)/papaya enzyme/vit E/Royal jelly (500mg)/Selenium 200mcg/2 Borage oil

1130--breakfast-daily vitamin

2-230pm--lunch/2 gelatin caps/1 royal jelly (500mg)/1 evening primrose (1000mg)

4-430pm-2 tyrosine (1000mg total)/1 kelp (150mcg)/1 saw palmetto (575mg)

5-530pm-1 bb pill/vit c (250mg)/papaya enzyme/1 protein drink (25g)

7-730pm--dinner/royal jelly (500mg)/evening primrose oil (1000mg)

9-930pm--1 cup bustea

11-1130pm--4 arginine(2000mg total)/3 ornithine (1500mg total)

I'm now massaging my left smaller side 6x a day (i know i'm crazy right? Smile

, but I'm tired of it being the slacking,lagging behind boob so I'm gonna see if massaging more makes a difference. I do 200 chi rotations each time. I'm also using femagis cream (w/PM) twice a day along with 5 drops of natureday liquid drops, along with emu oil. I'm using lelan vital serum (w/PM) on my right bigger side (2x a day)to see if it will help with lifting/sagging since it hangs about 1/2 inch more than the other side. The rest of the time I'm using cocoa butter/vit E on my smaller side for the remainder of the massages throughout the day.

Also I've included hypnosis in my routine (since 2wks ago), I'm trying to do that at least 4-5x a week before bed.

I've been taking 3 bb pills this time, instead of 2 to see if that makes a difference in my results (1575mg total bovine ovary, instead of 1050mg). If I don't see more results besides the 1/4 inch soon, I may ramp down to 2 again. Also will be adding the DIM-plus back into my routine if no more results soon.

Good luck to everyone!!
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Unread postAug 31, 2006#20

I am now measuring 35.25 instead of 34.75. Hopefully it's not just temporary swelling, my period is still 8 days from now also. My left smaller breast was aching really bad today so that's why I measured because I looked down at it and it looked bigger. Smile

So maybe massaging it several times a day is really helping. Yesterday I started adding EPO to 2 of my daily massages also. If the growth stays then that means so far I've grown 3/4 inch in 3 1/2 wks. I'll pray that the growth stays and doesn't go away after me period, cause that would mean that I am officially a small C cup. Smile

Eve M · 25-01-2022, 01:43 AM

Well, I'm only measuring 35in. this morning instead of 35.25 so I guess that was just temporary swelling. This fluctuating crap is very frustrating. Smile

So I'll just wait to measure on Day 5 of my cycle coming up in about 10 days.
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princess

Unread postSep 16, 2006#22

i must say wow you got rally good results..i read your personal program and you said that you were using bountifulbreast...and i saw your before and after pics

Am new to all this and surfing around for the best product
am definatly considering trying bountifulbreast!!! please advise me of any problems or effects that you mey have experienced while on bountiful and how long till you had results????

i would be so greatful for your advice
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Unread postSep 17, 2006#23

Hey Princess,

To answer your question about any effects I had on the bountiful pills, I didn't have any negative effects. If anything I feel better on the pills emotionally/mentally. Like my PMS symptoms are not as bad. So they probably balance out my hormones and that's why I feel better. To answer your other question, I started seeing results after about 2 1/2 wks. I felt a little tender/itchy in my breasts and I also looked fuller so I measured and was 1/2 inch bigger at that time. I thought I measured wrong or something cause I thought it was too soon to see results. So another 1 1/2 wk passed by and I measured again and was another 1/2 bigger. So I was really happy cause I knew they were working. The second month I didn't see any results, but I had added something to my routine that I think hurt my growth a little, so I dropped that and also added one other thing (DIM plus caps to help metabolize estrogen)So my third month I grew 1 1/2 inches. Then after that the growth was more steady, like every month after that I was growing 1/2 inch a week after my period. I ran out of pills the end of june and took about a 4 1/2 wk break, didn't lose any of my growth either during that time. I now just started back 6wks ago. The growth is slow this time, but I think that's probably cause I increased to 3 pills a day, instead of 2 a day and maybe 3 is too much for my body to respond. So have been back taking 2 a day for a few days. So far I've only grown 1/4 inch in the past 6wks. Guess I can't really complain since I've had good growth so far though. Smile

Also remember there are other brands out there with the bovine ovary that are much cheaper. I just stick with bountiful cause I know it works for me. The other brands are Vitamin Power from the site www.botanicalbeautylab.com (3 months is 70 something dollars)--it just doesn't have the pituitary glandular in it like bountiful and kelp. But I think botanicalbeautylab also sells the pituitary glandular if it's needed. The other brands are Ultra Breast, DNE, and I can't think of the other ones. I think someone is trying another brand, so you could do a search for bovine ovary or BO on here to find out. Also a little tip is that Bountiful also sells their pills on amazon.com for cheaper than they have on their site, I didn't find that out til after I ordered my first supply and just happened to find it on amazon after just doing a search for breast exercises and massages. You get a smaller supply on amazon sometimes, but it's still cheaper on there. They change their quantities that they sell on amazon, like sometimes they sell just a month supply, sometimes 3 months, and right now they are selling the 4.5 month supply for 238 and on the bountiful site they sell that supply for 295. (I just checked Smile

Hope this helps, Good luck to you!!

Michelle
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princess

Unread postSep 19, 2006#24

hello michelle
many thanks for your advice its helped a lot, i got another question though when taking bountiful do you have to take anything else to make things work?? coz i read your program and there are other herbs that you used as well...i was wondering is it nessecery to add more herbs to make things work?

i am seriously thinking about trying out bountiful breast soon,but in the mean time am doing a bit of research...i most likely will start at the begining of october
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Unread postSep 19, 2006#25

To answer your question about the other things I take....The main thing when taking any form of Bovine ovary like bountiful breast is to make sure you drink your protein drinks with whey isolate protein. I drink 2 a day (20g protein each), also if you were to start on bountiful or any other bovine ovary product, before starting I would check your body temp a few days in a row and see how your temp usually runs. For the pills to be most effective your temp needs to be between 98.2-98.6. Mine usually runs on the low side (98.0-98.2) so that's why I take the L-tyrosine and kelp. They help to regulate it. So I would say the main thing is the protein drinks along with l-tyrosine/kelp if your temp stays on the low side.

You don't have to take all the other things that I took, you can still have results possibly. Because right now I'm talking to another lady who wrote me awhile back about bountiful and we've become good friends actually, anyways she's been taking the pills for like a little over 2 1/2 months and has already grown 2 1/2 inches (from 34inches-36.5 inches) and all she takes is the l-tyrosine/kelp and protein drinks everyday. So you can have results without all the extras that I take. I'm not even sure if all the things I take makes a difference or not since I have so many things I do everyday.

But, I'll explain a little about everything I take so you can decide if you wanna add it or not. The flax seed oil, evening primrose oil, and royal jelly are suggested by bountiful breast to take if you have a high metabolism or on the thin side like me. The selenium is good for skin's elasticity, but through my research i found it's also good for fighting cancer supposedly, so that's a plus. Smile

I take Vitamin E for circulation, because I am a bad smoker. I take the papaya enzyme this time only as an experiment since I read it on another forum being good for NBE. I take the gelatin and gelatine drink for the same reason, cause I heard it was good for NBE, so again another experiment. The DIM-plus I take for estrogen metabolism, it balances the good vs. bad estrogen. I take Saw Palmetto because I believe I may have high testosterone, since I get acne sometimes since being on the bovine ovary, on the Saw Palmetto I don't get the acne that much, maybe one or two pimples time to time. Plus I had forgot that I used saw palmetto in my routine after about three months of taking the bountiful pills before my break recently. And that seemed to help with my results also. Cause in my 3rd month after adding saw palmetto and Dim-plus i gained 1 1/2 inches. And of course I take borage oil after finding out about it on this forum and others.

So as far as the gelatin, gelatine drink, papaya enzyme, and borage oil I just added those not too long ago and don't know really if any of those are making a difference. Because so far after starting over after my break and adding those extras I've only gained 1/4 inch in a little over 6wks now. But, again you can grow without all those extras, because I know of women that are and have grown without all of that.

Hope this helps, I know it can be very overwhelming to know which method to choose, because so many women on here have had great results with different products or methods. but, at least you know that if one thing doesn't work and you give it a fair trial, then you can always try the next best thing you were thinking of. And it does take ALOT of patience to stick with. Trust me, I've had good results so far and I'm still very impatient. Smile

Good luck to you in whatever route you choose!!!

Michelle
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Unread postSep 20, 2006#26

hi michelle, i was browsing the botanical labs page
& they have BO which costs £72... are these pills or is it a powder?
and will i need to add anything else when taking it or can i just take BO as it is with no extras except for some that you mentioned above ??..also you mention that you suffered form acne while on BO did you have acne before or was it your first experience?

Thank you for being so helpful
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Unread postSep 28, 2006#27

I'm sooo sorry, I just now saw where you posted your questions for me. But, I also saw your recent post stating that from what you've read you've changed your mind about using BO, so no use in me answering I guess now. Smile

Just wanted you to know I didn't just disregard your questions, I just now saw them when I went in to post an update. Good luck to you with whatever method you choose, I hope you see results!! Smile

Take care.

Michelle
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Unread postSep 28, 2006#28

So last time I updated, I was measuring 35.25 from 34.75, which I lost of course, because it was just temporary swelling right before period. Sad

SUCKS!! Now it's 2 days away from my period and I'm measuring 35.5, so we'll see if it sticks around this time on Day5 of my cycle. (fingers crossed Smile

I've never swelled up more than 1/2 inch before my period ever, so since I'm 3/4 inch bigger before my period this time, I'm hoping some of that extra will stay. Smile

Also last time I updated, I had started massaging my smaller side 5-6X a day, that lasted about 2wks, til I got tired of doing it that much everyday. Now I massage on average 3-4X a day. I have to say that I'm happy that my smaller is catching up more now though, still a little ways to go. But, it is catching up, I think the extra massaging along with the femagis, emu oil and fennel drops are helping. Which the fennel drops I just started using 1 wk ago. I have grown underneath on my smaller side 1/4 inch and down below my cleavage area & underneath I've grown 1/2 inch. I've been concentrating my massaging mostly where I'm smaller at which is underneath my breast and the cleavage area. So I think that's really helping since I've grown in those areas and of course that won't show up on the measuring tape when I measure all around the bust. I have about 1/4 inch more to grow down below the cleavage area and 1/4 inch more underneath, and I should be about caught up to the big boobie. Smile

Here's my updated routine as of Sept. 22nd (dropped the papaya enzyme/borage and added mammary glandular)--since adding mammary glandular I've been having stronger, more frequent pains.

**9-10am--2000mg l-tyrosine/450mcg kelp/Vit B complex (sublingual liquid)

**30 min. later-Breakfast
1000mg-flax seed oil
1000mg-evening primrose oil
500mg--Royal Jelly
Daily vitamin
50mg---Zinc
2-DIM Plus caps
250mcg--Selenium

**12-1230pm
2 bb pills/protein drink (20G)
1000mg-Flax seed oil
1000mg-Evening primrose
500mg--Royal Jelly
400UI-Vit E

**1 hour later
600mg--Mammary glandular w/light snack

**2-3pm
Lunch
250mg-Vit C

**4-5pm
600mg Mammary Glandular w/ protein drink (20G)

**7-8pm
Dinner
250Mg-Vit C

**9-10pm
Bustea/2 saw palmetto (1725mg)

**11-12pm before bed
1000mg-L-arginine
500mg--L-ornithine

****also still doing breast hypnosis-just started 1wk ago with the blaketalks Cd's and I love those so far. I feel tingles with them.

****For my 1st massage---all only on smaller side
I use 1/4 tsp Femagis cream/5 drops fennel extract/Emu oil
I massage underneath/cleavage area for 3-4 min in circular motions, then do 100 rotations whole breast, then stimulate nipple area for 1 minute (by grabbing,pullinglightly)

****2nd massage
I use 10 drops fennel/and emu oil
Do the same massages as above

****3rd massage
I use femagis/5drops fennel/emu oil
same massages

****last massage
I use 10 drops fennel/emu oil/borage oil/cayenne pepper
same massages, but I use saran wrap for 20-30minutes and everything really heats up with the cayenne pepper, MUAY CALIENTE!! Smile

Good luck to everyone!!! Smile

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Unread postSep 30, 2006#29

wow, i just wanna say congrats for sticking with your routine.
Its seems like this routine is complicated and requires a lot of dedication and to take all those pills and to do 3 different massages per day! well at least its paying off- i've seen your pics, so again, congrats!
...i'm having trouble with mine and its so simple in comparaison lol!
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Unread postOct 06, 2006#30

thank you for the congrats! Smile

Yes it is a very complicated routine, I'm surprised I've stuck with it this long to be honest. There are days when I get tired of swallowing pills, massaging like crazy, and drinking protein drinks, especially after several months of doing it. Smile

But, hopefully I won't have to do it too much longer and reach my goal within a few more months. I don't even know if I really need all the things I take, I just know it worked from the very beginning of taking everything I take, so I don't want to drop anything to slow results down possibly. You're lucky that you're starting out with a simple and not complex routine, so that you can gradually add stuff or ramp stuff and find out what works maybe and what doesn't. That's the smart way, but of course when I started several months ago I never knew about gradually adding stuff or ramping, so I went in full force from the get-go. I wish you the best of luck and hope you see results!! Smile

Eve M · 25-01-2022, 01:44 AM

Well, day 5 here and I'm not measuring 35.5 like I was right before my period, but I am however measuring 35.25 inches, so hey I'll take that. Smile

Since being back on the bb pills now for 8wks I've grown 3/4 inch total. And am now officially a 32C.
Total time on bb pills (excluding breaks) is 7 1/2 months and total growth is 4.25 inches.

I'll update next month again on day 5 and hopefully will gain a little more.

Good luck to everyone!!!
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Linda

Unread postOct 25, 2006#32

hi michelle i have a question.. what is your nationality? i'm just curious. i am researching more about BO until i decide to buy it. it's quite expensive 0.0
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Unread postOct 26, 2006#33

I'm just an all white, caucasian girl. Smile

I know sometimes my last name fools everyone, until they see my white ass Smile

...so sorry if you were thinking I'm asian. My husband is Korean so that's where the last name comes from. Smile

And yes bb is quite expensive, but their are other, cheaper alternatives to the bovine ovary. If you don't know those please let me know and I'll list the ones I know of for you.

Good luck to you!!
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Unread postOct 27, 2006#34

okay thanks for letting me know that. :}

can you list some places that have BO for cheaper? thanks a bunch!
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Unread postOct 31, 2006#35

Sorry just now getting back to you, just now saw your message. The 2 most mentioned bovine ovary products are Vitamin Power, which emmie is taking at the moment, can't remember if anyone else is or not. It seems to be the cheapest also, you can get it at www.botanicalbeautylab.com and 3 month supply is a little over $70. The other one is DNE, don't know of anyone with success with that one though. Also there's Ultra Breast, I think a 1 month supply of theirs is like $60. Hope this helps. Good luck to you!! Smile

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Unread postNov 04, 2006#36

Hi, first of all, I just want to congratulate you on your progress! I have a question though. I really like your routine because you didn't incorporate any herbs. From past experience, herbs didn't really work well for me and I even had some negative side effects. Do you feel that you receieved most of your gains from the BB pills or from the individual pills you were taking?
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Unread postNov 04, 2006#37

Thanks so much for the congrats. Smile

I definitely believe the bb pills is what gave me most, if not all my gains. In my opinions, the extra supplements help to 'boost' the results along with the bb pills. I'm taking extra stuff now that I wasn't taking in the very beginning and now my results have slowed up, so I'll probably be dropping some stuff soon from my routine and only taking what I was in the very beginning.

I'll explain each supplement I was taking before and how I believe it helps:

L-tyrosine/kelp--good to take if your temp runs below 98.1 mostly. My temp before would run between 97.9-98.0 mostly, so I take the tyrosine/kelp to help keep it where it needs to be, which is 98.1-98.6 for the pills to be most effective.

Evening primrose oil (omega 3 fatty acid), flax seed oil (omega 6 & 9 fatty acid)-I take these cause it's recommended by bb if you have a fast metabolism or are naturally thin.

Royal jelly--also recommended to take by bb if you have a fast metabolism. here are just some of the benefits of taking royal jelly that relate to NBE: Helps to keep skin smooth, toned and elastic. Regulates and balances hormones. Stimulates growth. Builds tissue and muscles.

Selenium: was suggested to take by bb, helps with skin elasticity. Also, has been shown in studies to help against cancer. So I'll continue taking that one even after I stop NBE. Smile

DIM Plus--was recommended to a girl I talk to through email about bb, they recommended for her to take it after her growth slowed down and said it's good for when the body needs another 'boost'. It metabolizes estrogen and balances the good estrogen vs. the bad estrogen.

So all these things I'm sure in some way help contribute to my growth, but the miracle pill is definitely bb, or bovine ovary itself for me, cause without the aid of it, it's not possible to grow on just the other supplements.

Hope this helps. Good luck to you!!! Smile

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Unread postNov 05, 2006#38

thank you. That was very helpful, but I checked the price for the BB pills and they were quite expensive. That was why I was hoping to supplement the BB pills with something else because I'm not to keen on using commercial products after hearing numerous comments that they don't really work well.
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Unread postJan 07, 2007#39

Well, it's been 2 months since I've updated, so I figured it was time. Smile

Updated routine since Dec. 29th

930-10am
2 L-tyrosine (1000mg)
1Kelp (150mcg)
VitB complex (sublinguial)for energy
every other day 1 gelatine powder drink

11-1130am
20g whey protein drink
1BB pill
Vit E
Adrenal glandular
2 Ginkgo Biloba(60mg each)for circulation
1 EPO (1000mg)
1 FSO (1000mg)
1Royal jelly (500mg)
1 SP (450mg)
2 DIM plus caps

30min later
1130-12pm (late breakfast)
Selenium (200mg)
Zinc (30mg)
Daily vitamin (hair,skin,nails)
Calcium/magnesium
Vitamin C (250mg)

2-3pm-Lunch
Acido (for IBS)
Papaya Enzyme (help wiht protein digestion and hopefully helps with my IBS)
Soy lecithin

5-6pm
1bb pill
20g protein drink
1 l-tyrosine (500mg)
1 kelp (150mcg)
1 SP (450mg)
1EPO-1000mg
1FSO-1000mg
1 royal jelly-500mg
1 ginkgo biloba(60mg)

Dinner-730-8pm
Acido
Calcium/magnesium
Vit C (250mg)
papaya enzyme

10-1030pm
1bb pill
glass milk with 2tbsp. hydolyzed collagen
1 l-tyrosine (500mg)
1 kelp (150mcg)
1 ginkgo biloba (60mg)
1 epo 1000mg
1 FSO 1000mg
1 Royal Jelly 500mg

1130-12pm before bed
1 Melatonin (3g)I now have no problems getting to sleep with this and feel very rested..thanks Organic Angel for mentioning this..you are an 'angel' Smile

1 Vit B-6

*Morning Massage-Boobie Batter (only on smaller boobie)

3drops Niacin liquid
5 drops Hops extract
5 drops Fenugreek extract
5 drops Goat's Rue
1/4 tsp. Venus Cream

*I start with Chi-flow massage with knuckles, then massage everything in for about 5 minutes, then do the 'fat grab' from fat from stomach and under arm/back only, then do 200 Chi Rotations

* Follow up with Aloe Vera Gel and Emu Oil to help further absorbtion (about 1 min of massaging)
Use heating pad for 10-15 min (along with wrapping up in saran wrap)

*Night Massage*
Same as above only I only use Aloe Vera Gel for absorbtion, no Emu Oil and I instead add 2 drops of DMSO to really get the herbs down deep.

Other little things I'm doing to 'hopefully' help with boob growth:
1. started hypnosis about 2wks ago..trying to be dedicated this time around.
3. using cayenne pepper on foods everyday to further help my poor circulation
4. using cumin/curry pepper on foods everyday since reading it showed to grow mammary glands in rat testings
5. using an electric singular hand held breast pump ordered from ebay..been using only on smaller boobie for past 12 days so far...love the 1/2 inch swelling it gives afterwards.
6. Am now waiting on some Mirifem cream to arrive...didn't think about the mineral oil in it when I ordered, so after it runs out I will replace with St. Herb cream instead since it doesn't have mineral oil.
7. using Herbal magic deoderant (with fennel/hops)

Geez, I felt like I just wrote a darn book. Smile

And Emmie, you thought you were taking a lot of pills..I think I got you beat. Smile

As of yesterday I am measuring at 35.25...which is what I was at before my weight loss in November. I was measuring 34.5 after the weight loss and then grew 1/4 inch in December, now another 1/2 inch. Hopefully it will stick around and hope it's not temporary swelling or anything, as I'm on day 14 of my cycle and normally I don't swell this early. And I measured well after my swelling went down from the breast pump and only measured because I was getting extreme pains in my smaller side late last night, felt like my skin was actually stretching and my smaller side even looked bigger so I measured.

Good luck and Breast wishes to everyone...here's to some big uns in 2007!! Smile

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Unread postJan 25, 2007#40

Hi Michelle,

I understand that youre putting a lot of effort in your program, but you should also be careful not mix herbs, supplements, and other drugs. This can be toxic! Besides, your program seems like too much, so Ive doing a lot of research on it.

1. Borage Oil: Im glad youre not taking borage oil anymore because:
Interactions may occur if borage oil is used with supplements that have antithrombotic activity, such as fish oils. This may be manifested by nosebleeds and increased susceptibility to bruising.
Interactions may occur if borage oil is used with such herbs as garlic (Allium sativum) and ginkgo (Ginkgo biloba). Such interactions may be manifested by nosebleeds and easy bruising.

2. EPO
Evening Primrose Oil or EPO should only be taken from menstruation to ovulation. This is because Evening Primrose Oil or EPO can cause uterine contractions in pregnancy. I wanted you to be aware of this because you are married and its possible that you might get pregnant again. Since essential fatty acids are necessary, you can take flax seed oil in place of EPO after ovulation and throughout pregnancy as well.

3. Ginkgo Biloba
Possible side effects are bleeding. At least four reports of spontaneous bleeding in association with use of Ginkgo biloba have been published. Ginkgo biloba may interact with Vit. E and/or drugs like aspirin, and potentially cause unusual bleeding or bruising, new onset headaches or vision changes.

4. Kelp
Kelp tablets are rich in vitamins and minerals but are high in iodine (Each tablet contain .7 mg iodine). A 72 year old woman with no history of thyroid disease had typical symptoms of hyperthyroidism. She took 4-6 tablets/day for a year and had an abnormal thyroid profile. However, after discontinuing the kelp tablets, her thyroid function returned to normal. This is a pretty old woman but just be aware of the high iodine levels. I LOVE toasted seaweed but Im not sure about the nutrition facts on those either. Maybe you should stick to a lower content of kelp like 2 tablets/day?

5. 1 Multivitamin
My doctor always recommended me to take 1 multivitamin instead of a bunch of vitamins separately to prevent any overdose. I think it would be easier too and less pills to worry about. Centrum Performance seems to have a lot of supplements youre taking right now such as Vita E, Vita B, Vita C, Calcium, Magnesium, Selenium, etc. And most of the daily value is what a doctor would recommend (I think youre taking way too much than needed). I suppose it would be a safer and healthier substitute, what do you think?

Just be careful, and remember that your health comes first. More pills do not equal more breasts! Wink

Take it easy and make life simple for yourself. Below are the links where I got most of my information. I have yet to start a program of BO myself Smile

Take care and good luck on your program!

Links:
http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdr ... 0039.shtml
http://www.babyhopes.com/articles/epo.html
http://www.freece.com/FreeCe/Article.as ... icleID=113
http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~jatkinso/herbal_meds.pdf
http://www.aafp.org/afp/990301ap/1239.html
https://www.centrumvitamins.ca/content/ ... erformance

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Eve M · 25-01-2022, 01:45 AM

Anh,

Thank you so much for taking the time to let me know about all your findings, I really appreciate it. Smile

I have been feeling like I'm taking way too much, and then have a hard time trying to decide what I should drop or not. So thank you for pointing out some things to me like interactions. I was not aware of the ginkgo biloba and vit E/aspirin interaction at all and I'm also glad too that I dropped the borage oil like you said. I take some things for health in general, like I read somewhere that if someone smokes they need more VitC so that's why I was taking extra of that cause I'm not an orange juice drinker or anything. Smile

But, you're right it would be a lot easier to just get a good multivitamin and I'll check out the brand you mentioned whenever my daily hair/nails/skin vitamins run out. I'm supposed to take 3 of the daily hair/nails/skin vitamins, but I was only taking 1 a day so that I don't overload on everything.

So until I get a good multivitamin I'm going to cut down to one of VitC/day, one calcium/magnesium, and definitely take my Vit E hours after the ginkgo biloba...I've already dropped the soy lecithin and dim plus caps 2wks ago, just to see how I get along without those with results. Also 2wks ago, I dropped 1 papaya enzyme and acidophilus and dropped 1 epo, but definitely now I will take the epo only from menstruation to ovulation just to be on the safe side. Kelp I'm going to just take 2 a day like you suggested to equal 300mcg/day. Definitely don't want any thyroid problems cause I've been taking them for so long just like the older lady.

You are right, more pills does not equal more breasts....if that were the case I would be a DD cup by now! LOL Smile

So you are starting bo then soon?? I wish you much luck if you are and you already have done your researching so that's good. Thanks so much again Anh...take care. Smile

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Unread postJan 30, 2007#42

Hi Michelle,

How are you doing? Well I've been really busy with school lately so that's why I'm not on here so often. I started my program yesterday so I'm really excited, lol. It is a lot work! My program is very similar to yours minus half the pills you're taking Smile

I know you probably hear this all the time but I think you should cut back on smoking. That stuff is a killer! I read somewhere that you smoke like one and a half packs a day?! How bout reducing it to a couple of cigarettes a day? And hopefully someday, smoke free? I know that's a big jump but you can do it. Live long and healthy, Michelle... Take care!

Anh
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Unread postJan 30, 2007#43

You're a real caring, sweetheart! Smile

Thanks so much. I hope you have a lot of success on your program with bo and you're going about it the smart way by taking a lot less pills than me! Smile

Please let me know if you have any questions about anything with the bo.

I know I definitely smoke waaay too much everyday. It didn't start out that way, the addiction just gets worse and worse over time, the more nicotine you give your body the more it wants to be satisfied. I started out only smoking like 5-6cigs a day back 4yrs ago. I wish I could cut back to 2 a day that would be great, I've tried quitting at least 4times already and the longest I could go was 3days without smoking, plus my husband smokes so that makes it even harder when you live with someone who does. I keep telling him or asking rather if he could be serious along with me and quit together, then we could support one another also. I have been trying to cut back lately and have been smoking a little less each day....down to 20cigs a day from about 30. So I'll keep trying to reduce the amount little by little for now. I'm thinking of also trying some liquid stuff I found online that's supposed to help with cravings and make the cigs taste awful. Thank you for your concern, cause I do wanna quit. Smile

Good luck to you in school also, I know how stressful that can be at times, so try to be stress-free so you can grow on your new program. Smile

Breast wishes! Take care.
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Unread postFeb 11, 2007#44

Hi Michelle.I have sent BB a question but got no reply. where should i send the question?thanks
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Unread postFeb 12, 2007#45

The measurement I had at the beginning of January was just temp swelling, so I went back down to 34.75 inches...I'm thinking it was just temp swelling from the pump I'm using maybe. But, I've been measuring 35.5 inches now for about 2wks even after the swelling from pumping has gone down and I even skipped a day from pumping while I was on vacation and measurement was still the same. So I'm hoping it will stick around this time.

REVISED SCHEDULE:

Morning:
500mg L-tyrosine
150MCG Kelp
Adrenal Cortex
900MG Saw Palmetto

30min-1 hour later:
20g Whey Protein w/milk
2 DNE bovine ovary (1000mg)
1 Flax Seed Oil
1 EPO (days 1-14 of cycle)
1 Royal Jelly

Breakfast:
Ginkgo Biloba (time release capsule)
Daily vitamin

5-6pm:
20g whey protein w/milk
2 DNE bovine ovary (1000mg)
1 kelp (150mcg)
1 l-tyrosine (500mg)
2 saw palmetto (900mg)
1 flax seed oil
1 epo (days 1-14)
1 royal jelly

Dinner:
Acidophilus (for IBS)
chewable papaya enzyme

Before Bed:
2 TBSP. Hydrolyzed collagen
1 melatonin

*2 daily massages (5-10min)followed by heat pack for 20-30min & saran wrap
**only on smaller side..before massaging I start with the chi flow massage with my knuckles all around my boob.
Morning:
1/4 tsp. venus cream
1/4 tsp. mirifem cream (started Jan 25th)
4 drops fenugreek extract
3 drops hops extract
5 drops goat's rue
3 drops Niacin

*finish up massage with Aloe Vera Gel and Emu Oil for better absorption, along with 200 chi rotations and 10 pushups

Evening:
3 drops Niacin
1/4 tsp. Mirifem cream
200 chi rotations/aloe vera gel and Emu oil & 10 pushups

* still using herbal deoderant with hops/fennel

Also just started using Lelan vital bust serum on both boobs to especially lift my bigger side..although they're looking more even now since I started using a pump. My smaller side was looking fuller up top than the other, so I started pumping both sides.

Started pumping Dec. 26th smaller side and bigger side Jan. 26th. I was pumping the smaller side for at least an hour a day for about 1 1/2wks, then it got to be too much when I started pumping both sides. So now I just pump 30min smaller side and 15min bigger side.

This is the first time in all these months that my smaller side is looking more even and I know it's all owed to the pump I'm using. I just hope the fullness and extra growth sticks around. I will continue using the pump for at least another 4 1/2 months to be 6months total.

Not listening to the blaketalks hypnosis anymore, but listening to my own affirmation I found online, along with a ringtone that is very popular in japan for increasing boobs, don't know if it really works or not, but maybe if i 'believe' it does, then it will. Smile

Also, listening to a 'body change' supraliminal message I got from deeptrancenow.com.

Been doing NBE now for a little over 11 months now and if the growth sticks, 4.5 inches total.

Breast blessings and wishes everyone!

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Unread postFeb 12, 2007#46

Also...just started doing the subliminal messages on my computer. downloaded from a site mentioned on the forum not too long ago. (subliminal blaster) Doing subliminal messages for breast growth, stop smoking and anxiety. Feeling positive about it so far in the past couple of days of doing it, I get strong twitching/pulling sensations in my breasts, like the skin is jumping around and pulling. It feels weird, but if it means growth I'm all for it. Smile

I did put in one of my subliminal messages "I feel my breasts growing' and "I feel my breasts stretching". Definitely feeling something for sure.
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Unread postMar 10, 2007#47

On Feb. 16th I started taking 2500mg of DNE bo and didn't feel as much pains on that dosage as the 2000mg/day. I'm still measuring 35.5 inches around, so no growth on the higher dosage either.

Today, I started back on BB to see how results will go with taking the pills with water now that we know that's the correct way to take them. I don't know if it's just a coincidence or what, but all day today I've been having sharp pains in both my boobs, starting from about 3hrs after I took my 1st bb pill with water....so hope that means something big is going to happen....like size 32DD big. Smile

I still take everything I was taking before other than that. I did add Ginger Root only because I read in recent research it has shown to protect against all kinds of cancer, including breast cancer.

Still using pump, subliminal messages,etc.

**Started using a breast massager from ebay on March 2nd...for 30min/day

** Started listening to the Boobster Xtreme mp3/DNA activator March 6th

** Ordered St. Herb Nano cream a week ago, along with St. Herb regular cream to replace Mirifem cream. Don't know if the mirifem is really making a difference at this point(it's been almost 6wks of use), but don't want to continue using it because of the mineral oil in it and I feel the st. herb is a better choice since the pm is listed at the top of the ingredients, not like the mirifem.

Breast of luck everyone!! Smile

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Unread postMar 13, 2007#48

Hi Michelle,

First off, your program has given me quite a hope! Tongue

Thank you so much for the extensive and well-updated entries. I also really appreciate the fact that you tried to reply to most of the questions and that's quite nice! I'm pretty new to this whole NBE thing and have been tempted to for a while. Like a lot of girls who started out here, I'm very skeptical about all the pills that are available online. Since you've mentioned that Bovine Ovary is cow ovaries, I'm wondering if that's going to affect your hormones, moods, or periods in anyway. I'm a 20 yr-old, petite ( 5'0, 95 lbs) Asian girl and my maternal side has a history of very modest breast sizes. -_-" I wouldn't consider myself skinny, just average and my metabolism is not the greatest since I do get a small little pooch on my stomach. Since you've mentionted that Natureday might be good for skinny girls, I'm wondering if that'll have any adversive effects on me. I was considering Wonderup for a while but since it's UK based, I'm a little bit hesitant to try it out b/c of the international order issue. As you know, being a college student, I can't afford to be too excessive as there are other financial stuff to be taken care of. Anyway, would love to get any response from you. Sorry if I'm being too lengthy. -_-" Thanks so much for doing this. I really do appreciate your time helping others! ^-^ Have a great day!
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Unread postMar 23, 2007#49

Sorry Angie that I'm just now getting back to you...didn't see your post til now.

To answer your concern about the bovine ovary..as of to date I haven't had any problems with anything. Maybe just a couple of times now in the past year I started my period 1 day early but that's about it.

When I mentioned about the working better for skinnier girls statement, that was the bovine ovary I was talking about and not natureday. I read somewhere that bo seems to work better for skinnier girls..but there's been women of all shapes and sizes who've had great results on it, so don't know how true that really is. I know I have a fast metabolism though and it's worked good..but I also make sure that I take my protein drinks everyday, evening primrose oil, flax seed oil and try to make sure I incorporate some fats in my diet...like from cashews and peanut butter. Not too much though..don't want extra pounds in the hips/butt. Smile

Good luck ot you on whatever program you decide on!
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Unread postMar 23, 2007#50

a note to myself to keep up with all the crap i'm doing.

March 16th-started St.Herb cream and Nano cream (quit using mirifem cream)
March 23rd-started blossom-s soap

March 22nd-quit using lelan vital bust serum..don't want too much PM being absorbed at once, especially now with the soap.

Eve M · 25-01-2022, 01:46 AM

That is so cute Michelle.Keep notes girl,we can all benefit from them.LOL.good growth to u.
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Unread postMay 20, 2007#52

*Warning long novel ahead. Smile

I took a break from March 27th-April 20th. During that time I did a liver milk thistle cleanse for a week, then a colon cleanse for 2wks. But, I also tried the Grow Yours Program from March27th to about April 16th. Before I started the grow yours I had went from my 35.50inches measurement to 35.25inches. I did grow up top on the grow yours....1.25inches (1 1/2 inches above nips) and 2inches (3inches above nips) and 1/4 inch underneath nips. The only bad thing was I appeared to be shrinking on my around bust measurement. After just a week of doing Grow yours my around bust measurement went down to 35 inches, then after about 2 1/2 wks I went to 34.75inches around. I'm not sure if the shrinking around was due to grow yours, but I didn't want to take a chance and continue shrinking, so I stopped the program. I should note that I was still doing my massages with Nano/st. herb cream and using my pump and massager during that time also.

Also so far since stopping the grow yours I have only lost 1/4 inch (3inches above nips) and 1/2 inch (1 1/2 inches above nips) up top and still kept my extra 1/4 inch underneath.

I started back on BO and my whole program April 21st. 2wks back into taking the BO I finally went back up to my current measurement of 35.25 after shrinking.

As of May 14th I have also been trying something different with my bo routine. I know it's a big no-no to add phytoestrogens to bo, but I added Hops per my dowsing results. I have practiced dowsing on and off for like a year now. Not sure if I would actually call myself a pro at it per say, but it has helped me with results in the past. I just forget about doing it lots of times, because it's time consuming. I hadn't dowsed in a couple of months before now, so I figured I would give it a shot and rate the different kinds of BO to see if one would work better than the other for me. The vitamin power brand rates 8/10 (average growth month=3/4inch) for me and DNE rates 7/10 (1/2inch/month). Don't know why one would be better than the other, unless it has to do with the fact that vitamin power is tablets and DNE is capsules and maybe my body will digest Vitamin power better or something (???). My sister had a lot of Vitamin power bottles left over, so she gave me hers. I got a rating of 9/10 for individual herbs being Hops and Saw Palmetto (average growth month=1.25inches). I asked about Hops and vitamin power BO and that rated 10/10 for me with average of 2inches a month (I know that sounds unbelieveable...like I said not sure if I'm really a pro dowser Smile

). I was not expecting hops and bo together to get a rating of anything since we're not supposed to mix the two. But, I thought I would try taking the two together anyhow to see if my little pendulum is correct. Smile

Since 6 days ago (May 14th) I have been taking the hops and bo everyday with the dosages recommended per dowsing. As of 2days ago since starting this I have been meausuring 35.75, so I've grown 1/2 inch if it sticks around, which it should cause that was only day 8 of my cycle whenever I measured. The pains I get are different also...more deep aches throughout the day, along with the strong, sometimes shooting pains.

UPDATED ROUTINE:

Morning:

1000mg L-Tyrosine
300 MCG Kelp
900Mg Vitamin Power BO
1000mg FSO
500MG Royal Jelly
25G Whey Protein (with water)

Lunch:

Daily vitamin
500mg L-Lysine
100mg 5HTP (stress/anxiety)
Vit B Complex
Cayenne pepper with food

2Hours after lunch:

900MG Hops

Afternoon Snack:

1/2 glass milk
protein bar
Cal/Mg supplement
Vit E

Before Dinner:

1000mg L-Tyrosine
150MCG Kelp
900mg Vitamin Power BO
1000mg FSO
500MG Royal Jelly
25G Protein (only on exercise days M,W,F)I drink a gelatine drink on non-exercise days, which has 8g protein

Dinner:

Acidophilus (for IBS)
500mg Vit C
Cal/MG
500mg L-Lysine
Cayenne pepper with food
100mg 5HTP

2 hours After Dinner (about 10pm):

900MG Hops
1000mg FSO
100mg 5HTP (to help with sleep)

Still using my breast pump on smaller side, which is just about even now. I use the pump 40-45min/day Mon-Friday, then only 30min on weekends.

Using breast massager 4-5X a week now.

1st Daily Massage:
Let Blossoms soap soak in for about 10-15min with saran wrap, then rinse.

Lelan Vital Bust Serum (added it back in, cause noticed I had a lot more fullness when I was using it when I compared pics)

Nano Cream
2 drops Niacin
5 drops hops extract
5 drops Fenugreek extract
Aloe Vera Gel

*Wrap up with saran wrap and use heating pack for 10-15min.
*Also stimulate nips for about 1 min
*150 chi rotations
*Do 10-12push ups

2nd Daily Massage:

Everything the same except no Blossom soap and I use St. Herb cream instead of Nano Cream.

I think I covered everything...Lord I hope so, cause that's enough. Smile

Breast wishes to everyone!!!

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Unread postMay 20, 2007#53

I knew I was bound to forget something.

I'm also taking a break on days 1 and 14 of my cycle from all the pills. On those days will also take Milk Thistle, but continue with my massages, breast pumping and using the massager.

Also still using the subliminal messages on the computer and still using fennel/hops deoderant.
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Unread postJun 14, 2007#54

Grown 1/4 inch since my last update, measuring 36 inches now. Which would make me a 32D, but funny I don't look like a small D to me. I guess since I had implants in for so long, I still have that vision in my head of what a D cup looked like with them. But, I'm trying to remember that implants always look more huge than natural breasts when you have inflation practically all around the boobs. If I had 'tops' then I'm sure I would look more like a D cup. Oh well, just thankful I have my own natural D's now and not those inflation devices. Smile

I stopped using the breast massager, although it was giving me some 'lift' and firming them up, I really felt like the massager may have been interfering wiht fats depositing. Cause on days I would use the massager, afterwards I would be measuring a little smaller than on days I didn't use the massager. So for now, I'll just wait til I get the size I want and then lift/firm them up.

Even lost a few pounds recently after not drinking the protein drinks for almost a week...due to running out and couldn't buy more right away. So I'm thankful that I didn't lose any boobage along with the weight.

Will continue taking the hops wiht the bo as long as I'm growing like I am. Maybe my pendulum/dowsing answers were right after all since I've grown 3/4 inch in like 4wks...not quite 2inches like my answer told me through dowsing, but then again the 2inches was supposed to be every 5wks...so we shall see if I grow another inch at least in a week from now. I won't hold my breath though. Smile

Also, just became part of Margi's study for hypnosis and I'm loving the mp3 she sent! Everytime I listen to it I get tingles/warmth in my breasts. I've tried at least 3 other breast hypnosis mp3's before and would always fall asleep on all of them, so would just give up. But, the one she's sending out to me is perfect...not too long or short and just the right amount of time to put you in a good trance before getting to the breast stuff. I listen to it once in the afternoons and then again right before bedtime...started this 3days ago. I really feel this is helping so far and hope that others that are using it find it's helping them also.

Good luck to everyone!!!
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Unread postJul 02, 2007#55

why is it not okay to take BO and herbal supplements
together?

I've been reading your posts...thanks so much!
This is the best informative site I have seen.

I've been using BB since June 1, with the whey protien shakes.
I am definately firmer and can feel the difference, but not
sure bigger as I didn't measure myself first.
I'm wondering if its just in my head. I have read so
many discouraging posts that I have wasted my money, but
I had to at least try it.

Just 4 weeks I know is not long enough to see results, yet
I "think" I can already see a difference because they feel
firmer and heavier. Also my husband is noticing (and I haven't
said anything to him about buying anything.)
Would like to know what others experience.
I am a 38C. Not really small to begin with, but wanted
to fill out better.
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Unread postJul 06, 2007#56

Hi susan,

Well, no you surely aren't small to begin with..wish I was a 38C! Smile

That's great that you are already noticing a difference so far and your husband noticing is a big plus and should tell you right there that's it's not all in your head! Smile

About the herbs with bo....the phytoestrogens are the ones that are recommended NOT to take with bo. It's been said that phytoestrogens will slow down results with bo. Herbs that are okay to take with bo are: Saw palmetto, wild yam since they are not phytoestrogens. As long as you're experiencing something already, then I would just keep doing what you're doing and not change anything. Smile

Just always make sure your temp stays 98.2-98.6 also.

Congratulations to you and hope you continue to see a difference and 'measure' a difference soon! Smile

Also, remember there's ladies on here that are growing and have grown on just the generic bo, including myself, I know the bb pills can get quite expensive.

Good luck to you!
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Unread postJul 06, 2007#57

I kept fluctuating for awhile from 35.75-36 inches...and back down again to 35.75...stupid yo-yo effect of growing boobs! I figure the hops along with the bo maybe was a bit too much and was overloading myself with estrogen perhaps. Oh well, just had to try...won't trust my pendulum ever again, it's such a damn liar! LOL

I took just a 2day break June 30th and July 1...did milk thistle, colon cleanse pills and used progesterone cream. ANd on day 1 of my cycle (july2nd) started St. Herb pills. I had ordered them months ago when I stopped growing for awhile on the bo, but chickened out and stored them in my cabinet. I was afraid of trying something new and afraid of wasting time if the st. herb didn't work. But, I've been using bo for so long (15months total to be exact) that I figured my body could use a change and especially since I'm not growing as well as I did in the beginning with bo. Might as well switch it up a bit and see what happens.

I've been getting pains/lots of aching since day 1 on the st. herb, especially on the smaller side...which I'm only using st. herb breast cream on the smaller side and only massaging for maybe 2-3min twice a day. I took about 3wks break from the breast pump. My poor smaller side could use a break from that thing and so could I! Smile

Still listening to margi's hypnosis and feeling really positive about it so far...still getting tingles when I listen to it, funny thing is when I listen to it I only concentrate on feeling anything on my smaller side and happy to say it works becuase I don't feel nothing/nada on the bigger side when I'm listening to it...so our mind is a powerful thing.

Good luck to everyone!!

Forgot to add that my period this time since I started the st. herb was only 2 1/2 days long when normally I bleed like a stuck pig and have to take ibuprofen the first couple of days to keep from bleeding so bad.
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Unread postJul 06, 2007#58

Morning:
1000mg L-tyrosine
300MCG-Kelp

1 hour later:
2 St. Herb (days 1-15 cycle)
1 glass milk
protein drink
1 FSO
1 Royal Jelly

Lunch:
Daily vitamin
Cayenne
5HTP
1000mg L-Lysine

Afternoon:
1 protein drink
1 glass milk

Dinner:
Cayenne
5HTP
Acidophilus
Papaya Enzyme
Cal/Mg
Vit C

2hrs before bed:
2 St. Herb
1 FSO
1 Royal Jelly
1/2 glass milk
5HTP

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Unread postJul 06, 2007#59

Hi Michelle
I just had a couple questions for ya...
1. What is 5HTP ?
2. Have you stopped taking BO ?

Thanks!
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Unread postJul 06, 2007#60

Hey Lindyrose,

5HTP is an amino acid that basically converts in the brain into serotonin. Which is the brain chemical involved in mood, behavior, appetite sleep. Here's a list also of things 5htp helps with:

Depression
Obesity
Carbohydrate craving
Bulimia
Insomnia
Narcolepsy
Sleep apnea
Migraine headaches
Tension headaches
Chronic daily headaches
Premenstrual syndrome
Fibromyalgia

I take it mostly to help me sleep better, for my anxiety and also headaches that I've suffered from since I was a kid. It has helped my anxiety a lot...headaches i still get some, but I may up the dose to see if that makes a difference..Sleep is sooo much better now also and every morning I wake up out of a deep, deep dream. My mom was also having problems sleeping and I told her about 5htp and the same thing has happened to her...she has deep dreams every night and she said she couldn't remember the last time she had a deep dream before taking it. I'm thinking deep dreams= deep sleep. Smile

I quit taking bo, just wanted to try something different since results have slowed up a lot with the bo. I'm just not patient enough after doing this for 15months now. Hopefully something different and new will get me growing good again....I'm ready to be done with NBE. How are things going for you?? I wish you much luck and hope things are going well.

Eve M · 25-01-2022, 01:47 AM

Thanks for responding. I might have to try that stuff, I usually have trouble sleeping. It's really hard to have energy when you don't feel like you slept much. Well I hope your new routine works for you, even though you've grown so much already. Your pretty courageous... I'm always afraid if I add something new it might hinder my progress but I'm still new at this.
I'm thinking of add one more bountiful pill (3 total) to see if that kicks it up for me... I'm not growing and not feeling anything! I feel like such a sucker after spending tons of money... I don't mind the expense as long as it works!! Maybe I'm just too impatient. Best of luck and if you have any advice for me I'd love to hear it since I trust your opinion.
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Unread postJul 18, 2007#62

Hi chelle!

Thank you so much for replying to my post. I was surprised
as I've emailed several people from the BB website, and got
failure replies on all but one, Cyd. Also, I am curious as
to why they have not posted new testimonials to keep up with
the times.

It is so good to hear from an actual person who has been there!

I just reordered another 6 week supply, so I figure if anything
more is going to happen, maybe it will happen with this order.

I was asking about the herbal products, and I appreciate your
feedback. I was given a month's supply of Latavi pills and
cream. It contains Black Cohash,and wild yam. I also take
L-Tyrosine in a vitiman supplement I got from GNC. I'm also
thinking about evening primrose oil...but don't want to over-do.

My order won't be in for a couple of weeks. Is it okay
to take the latavi in between my BB order, or should I just
hold off and not take anything until then?

What would you do? Have you heard of Latavi?
p.s. I would rather stick with BO. Over-all, I am impressed
with the product....just haven't seen any more change.
I guess it depends on the time of month.
Susan
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Unread postJul 29, 2007#63

Sorry girls...I don't come on here much lately, so just now seeing your postings.

Lindyrose,
good luck with taking the extra bb pill/aday. I 'think' though with the new directions for the bb pills they say to make sure not to take the pills more than 2 different times a day...so I would just make sure not to take 1 pill 3x a day...instead you know like 2pills morning, 1 pill afternoon/evening or vice versa. Something to do with the potency of the pills. I think that may be what screwed me up and slowed down my results because when I tried taking more than 2bb pills a day, I was taking it at 3 different times a day and they say that can stop the pills from working. But, I would ask BB just to be 100% sure, because technically since I'm not on their product any longer, they don't want me giving advice. Good luck to you sweetie..oh and hope the 5htp works for you if you try it out!

Susan,

I've heard of latavi, but unfamiliar with everything in it...if it only has black cohosh and wild yam, I know wild yam is okay since it's not a phytoestrogen...I'm not familiarized with black cohosh and it's properties though so I wouldn't know if it would be a good idea to take that or not even before you receive your next order of bb. (sorry Smile

Like I said to lindyrose, it's best to ask bb themselves, since they wouldn't appreciate me giving advice since I'm not on their product any longer. Smile

Now if you ever switch to just plain ole generic bo....I can give you any advice I want. *wink* Smile

Good luck to you too sweetie!

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Unread postJul 29, 2007#64

*Added Puerarian breast spray-July 12th

*Added Saw Palmetto-July 13Th (was getting acne on st herb pills, I take 450mg during the 15days on with st. herb, & take 900mg on my 15off days with st. herb..acne gone away now)

*Added Spirulina-July 17th

in 3 days I will be starting back up on the st. herb pills...this 15day break from them feels like forever when you're waiting around to grow bigger boobs! Smile

I still feel little aches/pains here & there even when I'm not taking the pills...so I hope something good will happen soon. But, it could be from the breast spray along with the st. herb cream I use..who knows.

I only use my breast pump (smaller side) Mon-fri now, give me and my boob a break 2 days a week on the weekends...plus after 2days of not pumping I can always tell what my 'actual' growth is, instead of temporary swelling from the pump I get.

I fluctuate in measurements from 35.75-36inches, but feel like my boobs are taking on a better shape and looking more firm/lifted these days...could just be all in my head though and really 'wishful' thinking. Hopefully the next 2wks cycle back on the pills will give me something more to know the pills are working..aside from all the pains I'm getting.

Good luck everyone!!

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Unread postJul 30, 2007#65

Hi Chelle, don't slow down now...lol. Not when I'm needing your
"expertise" in this matter! lol
You were writing posts before I ever knew there was such a pill.
Honestly, I had never heard of natural breast enhancement until just
last year, and it took a year of research before I decided to take
the plunge and try it.
You are so right. It takes patience, and following the mfg instructions.

I get up at 5 am, and I take one BB pill. I have breakfast of
a protein shake w/fruit around 7, and I'm off to work.
At 5 pm, several hours after lunch, I take a BB pill, and make
sure I don't eat anything for at least an hour later.

I started the program on June 1. Two months, and I am a full D cup.
I am a 39" bandsize, and I measure 45 3/4, over the nipple. I think
when I started it was 39 and 44. I wish I would have made a journal,
but I didn't.

As a skeptic, I keep saying..."its the bra" but really I know it
can't be, as when I take the bra off, I'm still at least 45 1/2,
and my breasts are sore, like I'm pre-mentstral.
So for me, it hasn't been a lot of hard work. Just two small pills
a day, and a shake that I like.

I wish I could find more "true" testimonials like us, who know it can
work...but I have found few. Most women say its a waste of time and money.
For me, it has been worth it, but it does take patience, as you know.

Have you kept your size ??? That's what I worry about. I guess
I will stay on it for at least 6 months.
Thanks,
Susan
p.s. please keep in touch when you have time. I have so many questions
to ask.
p.s. about the latavi....I'm not taking any chances. I'll just
hold on to it for now, until I finish this BB program.

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Unread postAug 04, 2007#66

Hi Chelle!
You're my inspiration :-)
Just wondering what pump you are using, and for how long?
Thanks in advance,
Loreli
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Unread postAug 05, 2007#67

Hi susan,
well, you seem to be growing very fast I'd say...Congratulations!! Smile

You're very lucky to have grown so much in only 2months time..so keep doing what you're doin! Smile

Believe you me, I wish I could answer your questions you might have, but like I said before since I'm not taking the bb pills any longer, I can't answer questions concerning bb and it's not my choice I'm afraid...the owner of bb has made it very clear that since I'm no longer using her product I'm not allowed to answer questions or give any advice concerning the bb pills and I don't want any trouble from her. Smile

She knows about this forum, so I'm pretty sure she reads what I write now. But, I wish you much luck on your program and hope that you keep growing to reach your goal! You're doing great so far. Smile

Oh, one more thing, yes I did keep all my growth I got from bb and everytime I even took small breaks here and there, I kept my growth to answer your question...that I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to at least answer. Smile

Hi Loreli,
thank you for your kind words. the pump I'm using is a pump I got from ebay, now I just looked on there and the seller I bought it from I don't think sells them anymore, but I found another seller (don't know how good they are though) here's a link for you:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Guarantee-Breast-En ... dZViewItem

the price is about the same...I paid $20 and it's 30 from this seller, but I also paid like $25 in shipping...don't know how much shipping is from this seller though.

I noticed a difference on my smaller side after about 4 1/2 wks...the fullness was staying...and I was only using it like 15min a day..every day. Then when I noticed a difference I started using it a little more each day since I only used it on one side. I would use it like 30-45min a day for a few months...can't remember how long exactly. Now I'm kinda tired of using it everyday, so just m-f for about 15-20min each time. My smaller side is still a little smaller, but the difference is not half as bad. I've taking breaks completely from it here and there also...so I'm not very consistent with it here lately, but in the very beginning I was and that was when I had the best results from it. Total time I've been using it off/on is 7months now. Hope this helps. Smile

Good luck to you!!
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Unread postAug 05, 2007#68

Thanks for your fast reply Chelle!
The pump looks good, is it battery operated?
I've been thinking about doing Brava for ages but i 100% know i don't have the commitment so there's really no point. Something like this would be idea, even just to pump them up for the night. Is there immediate swelling and if so how long does it last?
I've been thinking about buying the Bosom Beauty pump, this ebay one doesn't look as powerful, do you think it is?
Thanks heaps,
Loreli.
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Unread postAug 07, 2007#69

Hi Chelle, I understand. I had asked a question to BB,
and also to Cyd, but I didn't get a reply, so I won't bother
with it again.
The website they use is getting outdated, and they sure need
to update it.

Since I have gotten great results, I'm going to continue with
what they recommend or (as long as I can afford it).

At certain times of the month I feel heavier than usual. This
is my down week...lol. What a difference it makes. Or either
I am just getting accustomed to the extra tissue, and I'm not
aware of it like I was. Did you go through this?

I also want to lose 30 lbs, but am scared of losing it there,
and having wasted $$$ and hard work. Hopefully My plan of losing
it slow will keep the breast size.

Also, just to mention...I ordered Avon's bust sculpting cream
and it should be in tomorrow. I've heard it is great for firming.
Has anyone tried it?

Susan
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Unread postAug 09, 2007#70

Hey Susan,

I've tried the Avon cream. It does seem to help somewhat. Also wanted to let you know that Cyd no longer works for BB and that's probably why you haven't heard back from her. When I was taking the BB, I had a terrible time getting someone to answer me. Cyd was great at that, so I'm sure she's missed by many!:-) Good luck!

Hey Chelle,

Get off of myspace and check your email!:-) hehehehe
I got your email and have answered you back. Hope you are doing well!

Eve M · 25-01-2022, 01:48 AM

Thanks, I didn't know that. Seems like they would let people
know....?

Anyway, Now I am going to focus on getting myself in shape
and losing weight.
I just don't want to lose the boob progress.

thanks,
Susan
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Unread postAug 14, 2007#72

Hi Deb,

I love the Avon Sculpting cream!! If for nothing else, it has a great
fresh scent and makes the breasts feel velvety soft. Even my husband
can tell the difference. (He hasn't said anything, but foreplay lasts
much longer...which in turn makes me feel sexier....which I guess is
the point of all this boob work:-) lol

Anyway, I don't know about the firming properties yet...but I love
what it is doing so far. For those who haven't tried it...do it!
You will love the way it smooths right in when you do your nightly
massage. It also feels nice to sore or those cycle/growth aches we
are getting.

I have a question if anyone can answer. I started BB three months ago,
at a large B cup or small C. I am now a D. I didn't measuure myself at
first, (I wish I would have) but I can tell because I'm wearing the
same style bra...just in a bigger cup size and it is fitting snug.
(Hanes her way push up demi at Walmart).
My band measurement is 38 1/2, and my breast measurement is 46.
Do you think its possible to go to a DD on this program with time?
If I never grow any more...I would be happy. It has definately been
worth the cost so far, but I'm wondering if I continue until the 9th
month...would I see more growth?
I"m not trying to be ridiculous here...lol, I'm just a very tall
large boned woman, and for me I think a DD would be appropriate.
Does anyone know how big you could go?
Susan
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Unread postAug 15, 2007#73

I don't mean to post on your personal program page, but I was hoping someone here could help me out with taking BB.

I'm on my 3rd day and I'm feeling really nauseous. Is this normal? And will it go away? The BB customer service reps haven't emailed me back.
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Unread postAug 15, 2007#74

Hi Kitty,

I don't think (speaking for chelle) that she minds.
She has been very nice to me. It is great to hear from
someone new to BB like I am.

Are you taking the BB on an empty stomach with just water?
My directions say to do that. I don't recall any side effects
at all. Nothing. I take one at 5 am on an empty stomach,
don't eat for at least an hour, then the same thing at 5 pm.
(if my stomach is empty, which it usually is by that time of day).

Perhaps its something else. I hope it resolves. Please let
me know.
Susan
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Unread postAug 15, 2007#75

whoah my program page has been busy without me I see. lol Smile

Hey Deb,
sorry I haven't checked my email in awhile...but, I do have my head half way out myspaces' a**. Smile

Been going through a hard time lately...have a family member who is near the end so I haven't been on here much lately. hope you're doing well. I'll try to get back to ya as soon as I can..take care girl. Smile

Susan,
I don't see why you wouldn't grow to a DD cup...that's basically only 1 more inch and the pills are working pretty darn good I'd say so far. Smile

I grew total of 4.75 inches on the bb pills & bovine ovary generic. Good luck to you on achieving your goal!!

Loreli,
I read where you got the bosom beauty so I hope that works out for you. If I could afford that one, I would have probably got that one myself. Plus, as long as you're using it on both boobs, then that one would be more convenient, whereas the ebay cheaper one is better for me cause I only use it on the smaller side. The one I have is very powerful though and comes with a charger...the suction is so powerful that I've even kept it on my smaller boob while I've cooked dinner before. lol Good luck to you!!

Kitty,
I would look on the bovine ovary forum about the nausea...I think i've seen it discussed there along with dizziness. I think most said the nausea went away once their bodies got use to the pills. I even had nausea myself with the new st. herb pills I'm taking at first, then it went away.Good luck to you!

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Unread postAug 15, 2007#76

I'm measuring bigger but, this is only day 4 of my cycle....my cycle which is all screwed up though on these st herb pills. I'm fine with that as long as the growth stays though. I went through some bad a** cramps three days after I was supposed to have my period and didn't have proof to show for the severe pain...then still didn't start my period until 2wks of it being late. So I went through and still going through some bloating issues. The PMS was a lot worse than usual also...may break out the progresterone cream next time around so that I don't hurt anybody. Smile

I've gained 3lbs but hoping it's mostly water weight from my period.

I started out measuring 35.75inches and have been measuring 36.75 inches for a few days now, I hope it sticks around after aunt flow leaves me completely. Been taking the st. herb pills for about 6wks now.

Happy growing everyone!!
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Unread postAug 22, 2007#77

Hi michelle,

very impressed w/ your results...i'm happy everything's working out for you. i had a question regarding the pump you looked at on ebay from a diff seller. is it "cheapnaturalcom"? or is it from "mad_mikes_deals" or is it from "holbornmarketing"? i also have that problem with my rt breast smaller than my left. massaged more on the rt but still,not catching up. im having a very slow progress w/ wu. on the 5th bottle already and still only fullness on the left boobie. i'm thinking of trying natureday since it's alot cheaper than bovine ovary on bb website. thanks for being so informative in your journels....!! good luck!
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Unread postSep 06, 2007#78

Hi, Chelle

I accidentally came across this website a few months ago and was so impressed with all the information and input from the ladies on this board. It gives me hope. I should have found this forum earlier, so I could start the program earlier! lol

OK, I started the grow yours program on 29 Apr 2007 and I also took borage oil & fenugreek. However, I stopped the GY in mid May 'cos I found it too time-consuming and my growth was not very great comparing to other ladies participating. I then took up the massage technique from Tigerlily and Fengshui (2 times a day). I took Dong Quai in August after I finished my fenugreek bottle & later added Wild Yam (3 each per day at first but I reduced the Dong Quai to 2 per day only, as I learned from other ladies on this board that this will lower the heartbeat and my heartbeat is a bit low already).

I started at 31.5" with my left breast being a loose B cup and right breast an A only. In around mid July, I grew to 33" and I could feel the fullness and soreness. However, it dropped to 32.5" for some time and this morning I measured again and it went back to 33" but I don't feel the fullness and soreness now, so I don't know if it really grows.

I saw your program page and am so impressed with your very detailed program and patience in answering other ladies' questions and I also admired your growth. I wish I could have your growth. ^_^

I plan to order BB and will drop the herbs I am using now but will continue taking flax seed oil and drinking protein drinks, which I started today, in order to see how it goes. I know my body temp is a bit low, therefore I need to take L-tyrosine & kelp but I read from another lady on this board that overdosage (according to her, it should not exceed 250mg) will cause thyroid and I don't want to have thyroid. What is your opinion? BTW, I am living in Hong Kong where we have difficulties in getting all kinds of herbs, so I might have to order online but this will increase the cost (shipping to HK costs a lot).

Besides nbe, I also need to tackle my saggy tummy skin. :-( My tummy skin became so loosened after I gave birth to my son 16 years ago. Actually, I am not fat, I am 5'4.5", 118 lbs but these days my waist line is getting a bit bigger, so I need to do something. :-(

Thank you in advance for any advice and wishing all of us good luck in the nbe program!

PH

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Melissa

Unread postSep 18, 2007#79

Hi Chelle, awesome job on your program! I was wondering if you had gained any weight since starting your program?
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Unread postSep 25, 2007#80

You mention the items FSO, EPO,and DIM. What do they stand for?

Thank you

Eve M · 25-01-2022, 01:49 AM

Should ask questions on the main forum, but since it's already here:

"FSO, EPO,and DIM"
Flax Seed oil, Evening Primrose Oil and DIM Plus is this stuff:

There ya go.

By the way Chelle, you're one of my heroes, just so you know Tongue

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Unread postOct 21, 2007#82

Hi Chelle,

Just wanted to check you meant saran wrap after massage not that you put it on and massage while wrapped!

Also, without sounding stupid is chi rotation where you press the breast inward with the palm and move the breast in inwards circle?

Thanks + congrats on great results
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Unread postNov 15, 2007#83

I haven't been on here in forever..so I'm sorry to all the ladies who have had questions, but I will try to answer them all once I update my program a little. ^_^

My last program entry was mid August. After aunt flow left the building I went down to 36.25inches...so still grew 1/2 inch from 35.75inches starting out on St. Herb.

I then about a week later started spotting lightly for 3-4 days..so that was frustrating a little after being 2wks late on my period, then to start bleeding some again even after my period was over.

In September I grew another 1/2 inch after my period...which was actually only 2days late that month. October I didn't even have a period and didn't start until Nov. 3rd..which made me a month and a few days late.

So far I've gained 1 inch @ 36.75inches. (which would make me a 32DD..but by no means do I look that big, I assume because I have no 'tops' to fill me out)Even after growing 1/2 inch on top, still pretty flat up there (only 31.75inches above nips) Been on st. herb now for 4months. Will continue this program for a couple more months to try and gain at least another inch hopefully...to hopefully be done with NBE..minus the little breaks I've taken in between all this time...been doing NBE for 1 yr 8months now.

I don't massage that much for awhile now...maybe once a day (if that) on my smaller side using my left over lotions. Haven't used my breast pump since mid july. Funny thing is it seems my smaller side seems to fill out more since I stopped massaging so much than before.

If I don't gain at least another inch in 2months after finishing st. herb..i will think about going back on the dne bovine ovary since I did grow some on that. But, will first of course take a short break to do a liver & possibly colon cleanse.

Much boobie luck & success to everyone!! Big Grin

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Unread postNov 15, 2007#84

don't know if some of you still need answers to your questions, but i will to answer them anyhow..just in case. ^_^

PH:

not sure if you're still doing or gonna do bb still..but my opinion on the l-tyrosine and kelp would be to check with bountiful breast for the exact amounts to take...since I'm no longer takin their pills i'm not supposed to give advice. All I can tell you is back when I took their pills the amounts suggested from them was 2000mg l-tyrosine and 400-500 Micrograms kelp. I took anywhere from 1500-2000 l-tyrosine and 300-450 mcg kelp. And yes I recall through researching something about not exceeding 150 milligrams (i think) a day of kelp in order not to cause any problems. So as long as you still under 500 Micrograms kelp a day you should be fine.

So Lost:

I don't think i've heard of those sellers for the breast pump I have...I know others do sell it though. The one I bought it from a long time ago was 'talented may'. I don't think she still sells the pump though.

Deb:

girl I'm so sorry ...I haven't checked my home email in forever...yes I know I'm still stuck up myspace's bootie! lol Tongue

I don't even want to check my mail cause I'll be here all day goin through everything..but I will eventually. Been going through some tough personal things since august, so it's been a roller coaster of emotions for me. day by day i'm makin it. Smile

hope you're doing okay these days!

Loreli:

yes the pump is battery operated and also comes with a charger. there is immediate swelling and my swelling would usually lasts a good 6-7hrs...but still a little fullness left over til the next morning. I only pumped one side (smaller side) and i would normally on average swell up a good 1/2 inch. My pump is very powerful...so powerful with the suction that I can pump up and actually walk around and do things, but having to re-pump up every minute or so though.

Halome:

thank you girl for your sweet words...I only look at myself as damn lucky to have grown as well as I have. ^_^ I know it's frustrating even when we do grow well, much less when everything that's tried doesn't work. So I hope you're having success! Smile

Much boobie luck to everyone and hope I answered your questions!

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Unread postNov 15, 2007#85

Hi Michelle,

Long time Smile

I wanted to ask you have you noticed a difference while using EPO and FSO?I added EPO few days ago and was hoping for some feeback from you Smile

I have grown 1 inch but nothing since then..
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Unread postNov 16, 2007#86

yes indeed been a long time girl! Smile

that's great you've had the one inch of growth! I haven't taken EPO in a long long time...I'd have to look back at my notes to even know when I dropped it. I have only been taking FSO now for awhile..or at least ever since I started the st. herb in july. It's honestly hard to say whether the epo made a difference or not...I do know that I've grown really well on both the epo & fso takin them together and i've also had good growth with just the FSO alone without the epo. I remember reading something on the beboard about the epo & fso I believe by wenona (sp?) explaining if either one of those would be beneficial (i think) or a way to tell if it would be beneficial...can't remember the details about that, but maybe you could do a search on there for fso and epo & see if you can find it. IMO whatever you were doin to get the 1inch would be something to make sure you're still doin...if you're not already of course. ^_^ I hope you get more growth soon!! Keep the hope girl & good luck to you! Smile

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Unread postNov 16, 2007#87

sorry I missed your question earlier about any weight gain while on my program all this time.

I have only fluctuated in weight a few pounds here and there since I started almost 2yrs ago...which I did that before anyway. I started out 106lbs and I fluctuate usually up to 109 at the most..mostly during my menstrual cycle.
Good luck to you!!
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Unread postNov 16, 2007#88

Hi,Thanks for your response. I was hessitated to take FSO after the lignan discussuion!!Some say it is bad for NBE.I will add kelp again since that is what was taking when i grew.Anyway I wish you the best of luck with St.herbs.

Have you tried the electric massager everyone is talking about?It might help increase your tops.Just a thought Smile

best of luck Wink

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Unread postNov 29, 2007#89

Hi, Michelle, good to see you pop up to the board again. Guess you must have been very busy. I am not taking BO as they don't ship to Hong Kong. :-( I placed an order and my credit card got charged, then after a day or two, I received an email telling me that it was fully refunded and an email from Bountiful Breast telling me that they were not allowed to ship here. They should have taken Hong Kong off their shipping list if they already knew they could not ship. A waste of time and effort! Anyway, still on a limited selection of herbs + massage + adding in some protein. The growth of my breasts fluctuates while I gain some growth over my waist! :-(

Anyway, thanks for your advice. Take care!

PH
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Unread postDec 11, 2007#90

Hello Michelle,

Do you know if you are from a small boob family or not, i.e. does your mother, sisters if you have any, aunts on your mother's side, have small or large boobs? I just don't know how much of a role genetics play in the picture. You have had tremendous growth. Good for you!

Thanks.

Sarah

Eve M · 25-01-2022, 01:50 AM

i have been without internet service for almost 3wks now so I'm sorry just now responding back to you girls. Hope you all are doing well.

Hi Sandy...thanks so much sweetie for the suggestion, I do have one of those massagers but haven't used it in months and when I did use it, it was for only like a month. I did notice a big difference in the lifting of my boobs and they looked better, but I felt like somehow it was interfering with more growth because I stopped growing while I was using it and sometimes was measuring smaller. I've decided to just use that massager after I'm done period with NBE to lift those babies up. Smile

And yes i would say definitely throw back in the kelp if that's what you grew on before....hope you're seeing more results by now. Good luck sweetie and I'll try to stop by here more often now that I finally have internet access again. take care girl!

Hi PH..sorry you went through that with the bb pills..but thank God they gave you a refund without a hassle or long wait. Hope the herbs/massage/protein routine is working for you. take care. Smile

Hi Sarah,

Ya know when I first started NBE I was thinkin even 'IF' I did grow it probably wouldn't be much at all, because there's only ONE person on my father's side of the family that was actually very big busted (my grandmother)...everyone else is mostly small chested on both sides of the family (A cups)...so I thought I was poop out of luck if you will. Smile

And also I take after my mom's side and not my father's side, so I didn't think I would be gettin any of my grandmother's natural endowment with NBE. (lol) So quite honestly from my experience & my opinion genetics doesn't always determine how big we can grow to or by only looking at everyone in our family to pre-determine how big we can actually grow to.

I'm 'guessing' the way our body stores our fat has a lot to do with it and if we have enough fat to begin with. I know from one of those estimated body fat percentage things online..it says I'm about 17% body fat and my BMI has always been at least 19 while I've been doing NBE. My body I've noticed since starting this whole NBE thing almost 2yrs ago seems to store body fat pretty evenly...I use to think it was just my bootie it got stored at (lol), but being more aware now I see by my measurements everywhere (arms, hips, waist, etc) that when I gain weight it distrubutes pretty evenly all over. But, now if I just gained all in my hips say, then it would probably be a lot harder for me to gain fat in my boobs like I have.

I know I tend to (just like a lot of us on here Smile

stare at other women's boobs and how their body is proportioned...when I can tell the boobs are natural of course, cause I'm always curious how there are very skinny girls that are naturally endowed. It seems the ones that are very skinny..toothpick legs and the disease I like to call 'no-ass-atol' with no hips or shape are lots of times the ones with the natural really big boobs...I would love to know how their body tends to just deposit all the fat right straight to the boobs in their case...but then again I don't know if I'd like havin 'no ass atol' (lol) ...I'd rather have a shapely body with small A cups than huge D cups with no figure whatsoever. Smile

Okay I think I've rambled on enough now. Smile

good luck to all you ladies on here!! (((HUGS)))

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Unread postDec 12, 2007#92

Hello Michelle,

Thanks for the useful information and the encouragement you gave. It's good to know that you are from a family in which you are not the only odd ball small-chested one. I am, too, from a family of flat-chested women, at least on my mother side of the family. So I was pretty much convinced I would have to live with it, even though I really don't like that fact. Now I think I might have a chance. Could you please tell me what is DIM (it's an acronym?) and the Bountiful Breast pills you take in your program? Anything else you were doing that helped you grow so fast and so successfully?

Thanks.

Sarah
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Unread postDec 12, 2007#93

Michelle,

Also I would like to say that I definitely would rather have balanced body, with hips and breasts. But I guess if I were to choose between the two, I would rather choose breasts. It might be because I don't have any and I have always wanted to have some. Somebody without butt might say they would rather have butt and no breasts. One is never happy with what one has, is one? Anyway, I am still hoping that I can have some growth so I can wear proper clothes and don't get so depressed every time I go bra shopping, or looking through tops and dresses as so many of them have low neck lines these days. I am not so ambitious. I just want a full A cup as I am AAAA right now.

Sarah
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Unread postJan 02, 2008#94

Hi Michelle,
I was reviewing ur program because I remember u mentioned u took some supplements (recommended by BB) because u have a high metabolism. I understand they recommended EPO and FSO. How about royal jelly is that also recommended for people with high metabolism? Last question, why did you take the L tyrosine? Thanks for your help in advance.
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Unread postOct 29, 2008#95

I've heard that pumping and massaging interferes with each other, perhaps because the massage relaxes the swelling from the suction? Since you do these at the same time, do you think it could be a hindrance to the growth? In your opinion, which works best? What do you do more, and when do you massage? Do you massage right after pumping or a few hours after? I gained about an inch just while massaging and probably a .5 inch while pumping (stopped massaging). I wonder if I should do these two at the same time.. :-/
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Unread postOct 03, 2009#96

i've read your schedual and some of your posts and am disgusted!!!! i understand wanting larger breasts,thats fine but to take it to this extreme?! its insane! its clearly ruling your life! how many pills are you even taking a day? your obbsessed! larger breasts are not the magical key to happiness! and bovine ovarys?!!! as in the reproductive organ of a cow?! they do that on fear factor as a way to disgust people and you do it daily as a life style?! thats crazy! SEEK HELP!!!!

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