[EllaC]

Definitely agree. I was a BN member a long time ago and I remember how different the forum was then compared to now. More people were focused on learning together (and not just dictating and promoting their sole opinions or asserting themselves as the leading authority on NBE science--what a joke!) and sharing with all happily and just growing and inspiring others and now its not the same at all. I don't think most people even get the results they are after. I'm sure many give up. Spending years and lots of money only to get a measly half cup to cup size increase (which let's face it, isn't all that noticeable) is a lot of effort for little reward. Not to mention, who knows what the effects are long term for taking all these herbals and constantly switching programs to find the right combo of pills to take. I'm sure not many will think to report back the negative consequences after years have transpired and some are left with weakened immune systems and cancers. It definitely makes me more pessimistic and weary of it all, but there's a part of me that won't feel womanly enough until I obtain the end goal size I'm after. It's kinda sad. 

You nailed it with the long term effects and lingering issues .