[surferjoe2007]

I was trying the major growth method from the NBE guide and had some questions

Herbs:
Increase each cycle, allowing 2-4 cycles before the max amount.  If less growth is desired, stop the PM and PC at a lower amount.

50% saponin shatavari extract:  600 mg increased to 1,800-2,400 mg.
Saw palmetto extract: 320 mg.
Pueraria mirifica: Follicular, 100 mg increased to 750-1,000 mg.  Luteal, 100 mg.
Progesterone cream: Follicular, 1/8 tsp.  Luteal: 1/4 tsp increased to 3/4-1 tsp.
Massage at least 3-4 times a week with flax oil, for 10-15 minutes.
Optional: 3-10g maca (about 1-3 tsp) for the butt.  Also optional weighted squats with 5g creatine.

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You mention Vitex as a sub for PC

Vitex: 1/16-1/8 tsp progesterone cream. 

What would the recommended amounts for this plan?



Have you made any changes or updates that you would recommend to this plan?

Also have you heard of OvaBlend by Vitanica, saw a post on another forum where a girl had substantial growth in less than two months but looking at the ingredients it doesn't seem like it has anything that is common use here.  Thought you might want to look into the ingredients.

If you want major growth then vitex is not a great substitute for PC because it can only replace a small amount, no matter how much vitex you use.  If you do go this route then you would also reduce to 100-200 mg PM to keep it all balanced.  More PM might be possible but there is risk of imbalance.

Plan still seems as good as anything recent I’ve posted.  In my sig thread there is an update for alternate food options in case you have difficulty with the original food options or if you want something a little better but more difficult.

I took a brief look at ovablend.  They use extracts, which is good.  The saw palmetto and sarsaparilla have a small effect on nbe.  Cinammon helps with insulin and maybe a little with igf-1 too.  Searching indicates all that may be a minor help in ways not found in many nbe programs, so it could be added to other measures.  I’m not the most familiar with the ingredients so I’m not sure.