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(22-01-2013, 04:37 AM)mochaccino Wrote: Nice to see such detailed, well researched proof. You should really go into science or journalism. Look up my posts to see who I am, but I am absolutely sure that you already know. The unnecessary use of ellipses, caps lock, multiple line spaces, and strange strings of one sentence posts seems a tad bit familiar. I must be imaging things. I assume you'll respond to this with three different all caps lock posts of only one sentence each.
If it even deigns to respond at all. Gotta LOVE these kind of people. They'll do ANYTHING to push a product. Not that Siriporn's a bad product. But this marketing strategy is a bad marketing strategy.
BTW... I bought a big 1 liter container of extract from St. Herb and it's stuck at customs. Just a note for anyone thinking about buying it cheap in bulk. Customs seems to like seizing and hanging on to it forever.
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I got thanyaporn PM again for my last order. Ainterol raised their prices and thanyaporn seemed to lower theirs. It was going to cost 55 for 3 bottles of ainterol delivered. But only 30 for thanyaporn. (keep in mind you get less, 350mg per capsule).
As for customs. It depends on your country. In many countries you need a license to import over a certain amount. In Australia it is more than 3 month supply. In Korea it was I think less than X amount of value.
It is worth contacting them to find out. I have had stuff destroyed before, because I didn't know.
As for the discussion about brand potency. It is all up in the air as far as I am concerned. They can make whatever claims they want and you don't have a way to check if it is true or false. In terms of stated claims, government agencies need to prove them wrong before they can force them to change it.
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I wouldn't buy from siripon because their website is so bad and doesn't inspire consumer confidence. It is like a guy trying to sell you something out of the boot of his car.
who are you? you are just a few clicks away from all the information you need... all you need to do is take an ainterol cap a part and taste it.
wild pueraria mirifica tastes bitter more like a turnip. farmed pm tastes more llike soy. all you have to do einstein is get off your lazy ars and read.
YOU CAN START BY READING THE AMERICAN PHYTO LAB PETITION TO THE FDA AND THE SMITH NATUIRALS PETITION TO THE FDA. one is farmed one is wild. all the secondary actives are much higher in the farmed vs the wild. Their values are wrong on the chromenes but all the thai scientists work correlates to higher chromenes via higher efficacy via higher secondary actives. missy there are valid assays out there on the vast internet, your just too lazy to look, but not smart enough not to run your mouth
common sense would tell you wild pueraria mirifica is inferior to the farmed cultivars....DO YOU THINK THE PHD'S IN BIOLOGY THAT HAVE DONE THIS WORK OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS ARE STUPID OR JUST MAYBE YOU ARE SMARTER THEN THEY ARE BECAUSE YOUR VAST SOURCE OF KNOWLEDGE IS THIS FORUM
missy what on god's earth are you are smoking!!!! They work, study, go out into the wild, publish, lecture, do research in the lab and do you do what forum? maybe your an english teacher you can help us with perfect grammar on a forum....i work in a lab and have advanced science degree,
its takes an effort to find information...you can't be lazy, get it.
bye english teacher
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22-01-2013, 08:03 PM
Lots of new info, cool! Appreciate it! But come on.. No need for any hostility here! All opinions are welcome that are for the sake of helping other women's growth, not producing sales. I haven't researched much about siriporn, but I will the second I get home! As new to this as I am, I have heard that farm cultivated PM is a bit better in terms of its efficacy (controlled environment etc).. so I will try to find out for sure which brand is wild or not. Ugh this is much more complex than I thought! Keep the info coming per favore
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What annie said about the taste is true. I don't know if the pm I tried is cultivated or not but it's a really pure extract and it actually taste good, not exactly like soy but rather close to that. I think that's how it should taste. On the other hand people who tried open ainterol caps said it made them gag lol.
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Hah, more unfounded claims. There is jack all research. I have read into it. The korean study, the thai study, the japanese study and more. But again it is all unregulated over the internet. So what you think you isn't necessarily what you get. Especially when it comes from a place like thailand.
Show me the study that proves that PueraraPrem is superior. Not just a blob of text with their products at the bottom.
You claim it is wild, they claim it is farmed. No one has proof.
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23-01-2013, 01:45 AM
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mochaccino.)
Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to be an apologist for Ainterol. I agree with Jiberish that there is no proof on either side. None of the PM companies seem particularly trustworthy to me, but Siriporn is the one I trust the least, mainly because of their activities on this forum.
Annie is a sock puppet for Siriporn who has already been banned from this forum. Trust me, you do not want her around. To say that she is a biased source of information is putting it lightly. She's also the only shill I've ever dealt with who is also an intentional troll. She does nothing but spit vitriol, even in threads where people are agreeing with everything she says. I've seen here start extremely heated arguments with people who were actively defending her. I pointed out her extremely strange writing habits just in case anyone was in doubt that this was the same person who was recently banned. She used to go by the name Carlaa. Just run a search for the username Carlaa, and be sure to read far enough into the threads to see where she inevitably, without fail, turns into a seething lunatic regardless of who she's speaking to or how they treat her.
Carlaa (or whatever your real name is) you are by far the worst person I have ever done business with and I will never be buying from you again just because you choose to behave this way. Nothing you do inspires my confidence, and I just can't trust you, especially as a source of product that I'll be putting into my body. It really is like buying medication from an unstable looking hobo out of car trunk. I could not have put it better.
You have the mind of a child and not a smart one. I gave you a source
of information and you are worried about cap locks. Put something in your brain. Do have the ability to locate those petitions? No, you want to talk to hear yourself talk. That is far easier for you, forum queen
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23-01-2013, 02:02 AM
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True to form as always. I'm reporting you for banning (again). If you had any self control at all you might have been able to behave differently, and maybe even have managed to use a normal writing style. Then you might have slipped under the radar for a while and been able to continue promoting your product. I'm not worried that you will use this advice to start promoting your product in a sneakier, more intelligent way, because you just can not change. Have you never heard of a "soft sell"? Controlling your anger or writing in intelligible sentences is completely beyond your ability, and your company will probably loose business because of it.
