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Hello there ladies,
First of all I would like to share what I found (though many of you have probably already stumbled across it I can't find a thread):
http://www.puerariamirifica.com/pueraria...-spray.htm
This distributor sells 100% pure PM extract (and one that's 60% and mixed with other Thai herbs) by the kilo: this is a sote geared towards manufacturers of PM products, but anyone can buy. I figure why not go ahead and cut out the middle man? The link I've posted is to the water soluble variety which is $325 a kg...if you do the math, thats about ¢0.00325 a mg. From all the research I've done, that's definitely the cheapest I've found.
Now my question is this: since the extract is 100% PM, assuming I balance it with other herbs, would this be more effective than products like Ainterol whom are not 100% PM? I also like the idea of buying manufacturer direct because I can also add the PM to creams or oils and make my own. Also, what are some effective herbs besides maca (thanks Doll!) and Ginko? I have read that PM is a phytoestrogen... I think. So what properties would my supplementing herbs need?
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I just read the ingredient list on my Ainterol PM capsule bottle and other than the gelatin capsule itself, it is 100% PM. Like St. Herb, they only recommend 1000mg a day. So, I am not sure as to how potent Ainterol is versus the powder "extract" of St. Herb. At around $15 per 100 capsule bottle and each capsule is 500mg, it would come out to about $300 for one Kg of already capsulized PM through Ainterol without any discounts.
Just an observation.
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You right, you right lol. The extract I posted is water soluble which is why it is more expensive. They also sell the powder for capsules which is only $220/kg and a root slice version for tea and cooking for $200. I figured the soluble one would be easiest because I can just put it in water...now that I've priced out the other herbs I'll probably go with the $220 version lol.
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http://www.pueraria-thai.com/pueraria-mi...racted.htm
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Liquid extract is better than powder extract... especially when it comes to the solubility factor and also the density.
1 drop of a liquid extract is roughly equivalent to half of a 500mg dose of ainterol pm powder.
You might not think that's a big deal... but it adds up.
Ainterol also sells liquid extract, but their 1 liter version costs a grand, not $260.
A grand for 5 liters should last you at least a few years if you can manage that much at once... Though you should probably put a little into a smaller container and put the rest into some sort of freezer storage.
Personally, I'm strongly considering getting a liter through that site and just refilling my Ainterol dropper from it and sticking the rest in the freezer, getting it out to thaw, refilling, freezing, etc.
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Yeah, liquid tends to be better for a lot of reasons (with any supplement) but I can't find it for anywhere near as cheap as powder. I just found this site:
http://www.ebiochem.com/product/ueraria-...wder-13413 that sells pure powdered extract for $9.76/kg! I thought this was too good to be true so I did some quick research on the site. They have good SEO reviews, though I can't find anything from a specific person about their experience. I did find the site's terms of service:
http://www.ebiochem.com/index/staticPage/id/18 which states that they cannot guarantee a price until after a product is ordered...huh? Sounds fishy, BUT they also state that they will automatically cancel an order if there is a price discrepancy, and they seem to have a legit refund policy...I think I might just have to give them a shot. The minimum order is 5kg (it's a B2B site open to public) but even so that comes to less than 50 bucks. And that's a LOT of PM lol. Gonna do some more research before I decide. As far as most other herbs go, I've found that:
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/bulkherb/bulkherb.html has the best prices. My dad makes all kinds of tinctures and has used them for years.
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Uh. You're comparing apples to oranges...
Your buck goes a LOT further with liquid than powder. So direct price comparison is meaningless. You have to compare cost per effective dose for each. I think you will find the site I linked has the absolute best price on PM in that regard.
At least, I haven't found better yet, and I've done a LOT of looking in the past.
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I completely understand what you're saying, but I don't think I am. A liquid tincture or extract is simply the extract that has been soaked in some form of grain alcohol (this is why you'll always see an alcohol % in the ingredients). So with what I'm purchasing I can make my own tinctures, creams, capsules, etc. Also, the product you mentioned is for topical application only =\ it can't be taken orally which is an option I find mandatory. Like I said, my dad makes tinctures, my friends and I call him The Apothecary lol. I know my way around the art of holistic heqling, at least a little bit.
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First, thanks for the great suggestions ladies. Yeah, I've noticed more of a mark up on PM then any other herb, to me that shows how effective it is lol. I've found this site:
http://herbalshrine.com/kwaokruakao.html
That has capsules for $135/kg and powder for $80/kg. I actually prefer the powder because, like I said above, it is more versatile. I would end up just taking the powder out of the capsules lol.
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I bought mine last year on eBay for 100 gram at USD 9.99 including postage. I put it in my batter oil, drink, and also on my face. but then I afraid I might get estrogen dominance and stop putting it on my face just use it for internal and massage only.
It works for my NBE. I still have ample of it. NBE is a long time process. You can save your money when buying in bulk and can devise your own dosage to suit your body.
