[DoubleCs]

So...

I am considering doing the fenugreek, saw palmetto, wild yam combination + taking vit. c supplements + protein shakes + heating pad + feng shui & tiger lily massage. However, I am uncertain if this will work for me.

Here are my stats:

Age: 19
Height: 4'11"
Weight: 90-95 (it fluctuates)
Breast Size: 32AA :[
No kids
Exercise 3x/week, mainly toning

Any advice?

[Wahaika]

For the fenugreek, saw palmetto, wild yam combination, I would suggest either taking wonderup, or the Greenbush 90 day kit (#2).

For heating pad + feng shui & tiger lily massage, you might want to make sure that you use a phytoestrogen such as fenugreek and a carrier (usually an oil) such as olive or EPO or borage - or a combination of all three. Steep fenugreek powder in the oil for at least a week before using it the first time. Use the heated pad for about 30 minutes after rubbing in the mixture.

Make sure to also take a good multivitamin that contains a B complex.

Everything else looks good.

Wahaika

[DoubleCs]

When you say steep the fenugreek in the oil for a week, do you mean all the powder or is there a specific amount? & does it make a difference if I use powder or extract?

[Anna80]

This is Wahaikas recipe:


Booby Batter:
1/2 cup Olive Oil + 1/2 cup Fenugreek + 24 Borage Oil (one gram) caps. Steep for one week minimum before first use. (The longer the better) We now use Borage oil instead of EPO in this mixture. Borage has a higher concentration of GLA - 23-25% vs. about 8% for EPO. EPO is still used internally.
(GLA is a precursor to prostaglandins,
prostaglandins are precursor to aromatase,
aromatase + testosterone = estrogen)

Get 2 (at least) 8oz empty containers such as dark glass bottles or empty hand lotion bottles. Steep with one while using the other.



For me the 1/2 c Fenugreek was too much powder..so I used 1/4 c Fenugreek powder to 1/2 c Olive Oil. Otherwise it was too thick for me and I didnt like it.

And the only real difference from the powder vs the liquid extract is you have to to wait and steep the powder in the oil for a week +. With the extract you can simply use a few drops and mix it in with the oil and apply it in right away.

[DoubleCs]

Ok, thank you sooo much for the advice :].

Also, any recommendations on where I can buy some EPO or Borage oil?

[Chelsee.p]

Hi doublec, I am currently using the greenbush enhancement blend kit. It comes with pills and extract. They contain equal amounts of all 3 fenugreek, saw palmetto and wild yam. I recomend this kit bcuz u can use the extract for massage and its so much easier and convenient then all that mixing and steeping.
Ive ben using it for 3 weeks and 1 day exactly now and I havnt noticed many changes other then a lot of sensations in my breasts. So im hopeful and this point.
If u wanna know more about what im doing u can look up my program page.
Best of luck!

[Andy]

If you have a walmart or any type of drug store. (Walgreens, CVS) They should have borage oil or evening primrose oil. I keep an eye out on the sunday edition. To see who is having a buy one get one free or 50% off sale. Thats when I usually stock up on gelatin, milk thistle,etc..
I usually get my fenugreek and saw palemtto from GNC I know it is way more expensive. I should be doing a online purchase sometime soon.

later
andy

[Anna80]

I know there are quite a few NBE'rs that buy the supplements from Wal-Mart and have had good results. It's the Wal-mart brand called Spring Valley.
I got Gelatin for $3, The EPO was $8, and the Borage Oil was $4. MSM is $9. They have Flaxseed oil caps and liquid too.

[accidental_ booby]

see the info on wild yam in thread "no tingles". It is not metabolized by the body.

[Wahaika]

The "no tingles" thread is disproved.