I started last week 17 Feb 2014 with:
-> 1x vitamine D (cholecalciferol) 25 µg (microgram)
-> 3x Saw Palmetto (
Serenoa serrulata) 600 mg
-> 3x Fenugreek 610 mg
-> 3x Red Clover 400 mg
-> Massage at night for 20-30 minuts
I'll keep this program for a month and next 2 months I'll increase 2x3x SP, FG and RC.
I'm new (about breast enhancement) and would like to know what you think about this program? Should I add something else? Or remove? Or..??
Now I'm feeling some pain, maybe it's growing..?!
What are you using to massage with? Def try adding some topicals. Also see about some kind of hypnotherapy. Why did you choose Saw Palmetto? And maybe I'm wrong but aren't Red Clover and Fenugreek about the same thing? THey're both phytoestrogens right? I read that you might not want too much of a single thing in different forms (2 diff anti-androgen, 3 diff progesterone boosters etc) because then they are competing for receptors in your body to do the same job.
(23-02-2014, 06:26 PM)Kabigger Wrote: [ -> ]I started last week 17 Feb 2014 with:
-> 1x vitamine D (cholecalciferol) 25 µg (microgram)
-> 3x Saw Palmetto (Serenoa serrulata) 600 mg
-> 3x Fenugreek 610 mg
-> 3x Red Clover 400 mg
-> Massage at night for 20-30 minuts
I'll keep this program for a month and next 2 months I'll increase 2x3x SP, FG and RC.
I'm new (about breast enhancement) and would like to know what you think about this program? Should I add something else? Or remove? Or..??
Now I'm feeling some pain, maybe it's growing..?!
Looks good to me . You might add fish oil and flax seed oil for your breast massage.
(23-02-2014, 06:45 PM)JillyBean Wrote: [ -> ]What are you using to massage with? Def try adding some topicals. Also see about some kind of hypnotherapy. Why did you choose Saw Palmetto? And maybe I'm wrong but aren't Red Clover and Fenugreek about the same thing? THey're both phytoestrogens right? I read that you might not want too much of a single thing in different forms (2 diff anti-androgen, 3 diff progesterone boosters etc) because then they are competing for receptors in your body to do the same job.
For massage I'm just using almond oil for skin. I'm thinking about adding something for massage but don´t know what should I use yet.
I´m trying a program that must have worked for some people... I'm starting and giving a try. Besides that I don´t have big explanations why this specific combination and quantity of Fenugreek, Red Clover and Saw Palmetto. It´s my start.
But if choosing between Red Clover and Fenugreek, each one could be most effective? I didn´t find any comparison elsewhere yet.
(23-02-2014, 07:22 PM)myboobs Wrote: [ -> ]Looks good to me . You might add fish oil and flax seed oil for your breast massage.
Thanks for the oils tips! But I got confused after I just read this: "Losing Man Boobs With Flaxseeds. Studies have shown that flaxseeds inhibit the growth of human estrogen-dependent cancers. In the same way, they help to reduce man boobs by inhibiting the effects of excess estrogen. Read more:
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(23-02-2014, 06:26 PM)Kabigger Wrote: [ -> ]I started last week 17 Feb 2014 with:
-> 1x vitamine D (cholecalciferol) 25 µg (microgram)
-> 3x Saw Palmetto (Serenoa serrulata) 600 mg
-> 3x Fenugreek 610 mg
-> 3x Red Clover 400 mg
-> Massage at night for 20-30 minuts
I'll keep this program for a month and next 2 months I'll increase 2x3x SP, FG and RC.
I'm new (about breast enhancement) and would like to know what you think about this program? Should I add something else? Or remove? Or..??
Now I'm feeling some pain, maybe it's growing..?!
Red clover has 4 phytoestrogens, biochanin A, fomonontein, genistein, and daidzein,
and genistein binds itself to estrogen receptors, great for breast growth.
Fenugreek contains diosgenin, also a phytoestrogens, however FG is also a galactagogue, which is said to increase milk supply.
Both have numerous other health benefits to mention. Just as a starter program I'd say it's a good fit.
Good Luck and welcome!
(24-02-2014, 12:02 AM)Kabigger Wrote: [ -> ] (23-02-2014, 06:45 PM)JillyBean Wrote: [ -> ]What are you using to massage with? Def try adding some topicals. Also see about some kind of hypnotherapy. Why did you choose Saw Palmetto? And maybe I'm wrong but aren't Red Clover and Fenugreek about the same thing? THey're both phytoestrogens right? I read that you might not want too much of a single thing in different forms (2 diff anti-androgen, 3 diff progesterone boosters etc) because then they are competing for receptors in your body to do the same job.
For massage I'm just using almond oil for skin. I'm thinking about adding something for massage but don´t know what should I use yet.
I´m trying a program that must have worked for some people... I'm starting and giving a try. Besides that I don´t have big explanations why this specific combination and quantity of Fenugreek, Red Clover and Saw Palmetto. It´s my start.
But if choosing between Red Clover and Fenugreek, each one could be most effective? I didn´t find any comparison elsewhere yet.
I would try Flax Oil for massage as lots of people have had great success with it, including myself. I was just wondering because from research I did Saw Palmetto only helped those of us with PCOS, and it's thought to be too strong for anyone else, so I was wondering if you had PCOS. I was genuinely curious about the red clover and fenugreek combo because I've read lots of conflicting info elsewhere. The only thing I would really add to your program, just in case is some sort of hormone balancer, only because of the saw palmetto. Other than that I think it looks pretty good.
(24-02-2014, 12:32 AM)JillyBean Wrote: [ -> ] (24-02-2014, 12:02 AM)Kabigger Wrote: [ -> ] (23-02-2014, 06:45 PM)JillyBean Wrote: [ -> ]What are you using to massage with? Def try adding some topicals. Also see about some kind of hypnotherapy. Why did you choose Saw Palmetto? And maybe I'm wrong but aren't Red Clover and Fenugreek about the same thing? THey're both phytoestrogens right? I read that you might not want too much of a single thing in different forms (2 diff anti-androgen, 3 diff progesterone boosters etc) because then they are competing for receptors in your body to do the same job.
For massage I'm just using almond oil for skin. I'm thinking about adding something for massage but don´t know what should I use yet.
I´m trying a program that must have worked for some people... I'm starting and giving a try. Besides that I don´t have big explanations why this specific combination and quantity of Fenugreek, Red Clover and Saw Palmetto. It´s my start.
But if choosing between Red Clover and Fenugreek, each one could be most effective? I didn´t find any comparison elsewhere yet.
I would try Flax Oil for massage as lots of people have had great success with it, including myself. I was just wondering because from research I did Saw Palmetto only helped those of us with PCOS, and it's thought to be too strong for anyone else, so I was wondering if you had PCOS. I was genuinely curious about the red clover and fenugreek combo because I've read lots of conflicting info elsewhere. The only thing I would really add to your program, just in case is some sort of hormone balancer, only because of the saw palmetto. Other than that I think it looks pretty good.
I have much belly and back hairs! Much then most women, specially my back. Then I think SP can help about it. It would be great!! My hairs really give me stress!
So I also need to lose about 10 kg! I'll lose that by reducing some more caloric food.
Today, 24 feb 2014, I weight 66.7 kg.
My breast at this beginning (one week) look like that.
The right side is bigger... Ya.. I want to grow both
and try to make then same (or almost same) size.
Any idea about what to do to make both having the same size?
What I'm doing different now is just massaging longer the smaller one. Is that the way?