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East of Eden,
I am confused about Chicken is expensive. Do you live in the states?
Taking a multivitamin is highly recommended for NBE, and since money seems to be a factor, thought I would share with you.
I take Puritan's Pride ONE time released multivitamin. It's a bottle of 60. If you buy 2 you get 3 free, so the total after shipping was around $26 US dollars. Since you only take 1 a day, and you get 5 bottles, that's 10 months of multivitamins. That's roughly 12 cents a day. Pretty cheap.
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East of Eden,
MSM brands - the best way to tell is to just try what you bought. I remember reading one post where a woman was taking one brand of MSM with no results, then changed to Carlson's and got results from it.
Protein powder is a good idea if you get a good one. If you get one that is soy based, make sure to take plenty of B12, L-Tyrosine, and kelp because if it is an effective one it may slow the thyroid. In the past when women have been on herbal routines and on a whey protein powder, they don't get far. I think it may be because the protein binds with the phytoestrogens. It is better to avoid the powders for NBE in my opinion. If you want to do soy, drink a cup of soy milk per day. Make sure that it is non-GMO soy.
Kelp - Nature's Way. Follow the label. For L-Tyrosine, use Twin Lab. I think that those are 500mg. Once per day should be good. B12, yep 100mcg is very good, but take it in a B complex, not B12 by itself.
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Hi MoK217
I don't live in the States...I am up here in Canada
I guess everything is relative...I suppose chicken really isn't that expensive...it's just that my budget is pretty tight. I can only spend $120/month on food.
I should really find a way to make more money!!
But anyway, thanks for the tip. I'm sure shipping would be more to Canada, but where are you buying this multivitamin from?
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Puritanspride.com is the website I get most of my cap herbs from. They are a great company to buy from. I read up on the shipping, and it seems they charge you by weight, and then an additional $4.95 for handling purposes. That really stinks. Is there an internet company there similar? Maybe they wouldn't charge so much for shipping from a Canadian company.
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Hi Wahaika,
Ok..I got the B complex and kelp (couldn't find Nature's way so Jamieson brand will have to do!) I am however having trouble finding L-Tyrosine....I found L-Lysine...I'm not sure what the difference is. I also hear people mention 5HTP...which I also found. What are the differences between all of these? Is there a particular website where I can find the L-Tyrosine?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi East of Eden,
U.S. (Might ship to Canada)
http://www.vitacost.com/Twinlab-L-Tyrosine-Plus
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=l-tyrosine&x=0&y=0
Canada
http://www.feelgoodnatural.com/health-fo...2/NOW00162
http://www.aviva.ca/shop/products.asp?itemid=1724&catid=187
GNC:
http://www.gnc.ca/stores.aspx
http://www.gnc.com/search/index.jsp?kwCatId=&kw=l-tyrosine&origkw=l-tyrosine&sr=1
5-HTP is a precursor to seratonin. Seratonin increases HGH production among its other effects.
L-Lysine and L-Arginine (and others) help with HGH production among other things to take these for individually. If taken together, these have a better effect on HGH production than alone. But they compete for the same receptor, so if taking these together, substitute Arginine Pyroglutamate for regular L-Arginine.
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Hi Wahaika,
Ok...I managed to find the L-tyrosine!!! My arsenal of herbs is now complete!!!!
I am on Day 6 of my NBE routine and I just have a quick question about day 18 of ramping up. My cycle last month was exactly 28 days. Do you think then that I should stop all herbs completely on day 14? or leave it at day 18 if you think it is too early. Do most people even do this?
Thanks!
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Hello East of Eden!
The only reason to do that is if the herbs cause cycle problems such as midcycle bleeding, problematic differences in menstruation, etc. - problems that are associated with ovulation.
Stopping for those days is usually not done unless trying to solve a problem.
Good luck!
Wahaika
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Thanks for all your help Wahaika!
I will be sure to keep you posted on my progress
I am so glad that there are people like you sharing your time and expertise on this forum!!
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Hi Wahaika,
I am now on day 20 of my journey. I have been at 1500mg of all three herbs for about a week now. So far I don't really think I have had any signs of growth. The only thing maybe is that my nipples seem to be more sensitive than before. Today was the first day that I ramped up my fenugreek to 2000 mg per day. Tomorrow I am thinking that I will ramp it up to 2500. Is this what I should be doing? or should I just ramp to 2000 with all three herbs and evaluate before continuing on to higher dosages. I really don't want to stall. Sorry if I'm not being clear...it's all so confusing!
