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Nerve damage from pumping
(18-04-2019, 11:57 PM)Lotus Wrote: So I thought I would weigh in here on the nerve damage from pumping issue.  I think it's worth pointing out that there are two concerns about the positioning of the cups over the breast that could be the issue while pumping(?). First one is what's called the  internal mammary artery and of the axillary artery, if you note the artery position one would think stretching this artery could cause damage...think of the damage to this area akin to say seatbelt trauma.

Axillary artery
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axillary_artery

Assessment of internal mammary artery injury after blunt chest trauma: a literature review
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4201314/


The second area is the positioning of lymph nodes,  and if there's damage to the lymph nodes it doesn't properly get rid of bacteria and compromises the body's ability to fight infections, inflammation, breast lymph node drainage, etc.

Swollen lymph nodes
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond...c-20353902



So, is it possible that over pumping can damage these areas?....I things it's worth having a look see and discussion.


Thank you lotus for your research and help
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(10-04-2019, 09:49 PM)UK1068 Wrote: The domes are going into your armpit? I use XL domes and have never had them go beyond side boob. Anything applying pressure to the veins in your armpit will cause numbness and cut circulation. I have pretty poor circulation myself (arms go numb just from washing my hair, or I wake up at night and one is numb), but I had these issues even before I started using the noogle. If you have problems already, then a bad fitting dome will exacerbate it. We are so used to our circulation that we don't even realize we have an issue until we use something like this, and it becomes obvious. To say the noogle caused this problem if you have numbness from day one, that is not fair.  That would be like being born with a bad ankle, then saying it's your shoes fault you have painful ankles.


Clearly you have a larger frame than us.  Just because it doesn't happen to you *gasp* doesn't mean that it's not happening to others.  For some of us, the cup IS grabbing into our armpits.  There is NO warning against that though which is the problem.  If I had known that, I never would have upgraded to the XXL cups.
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(19-04-2019, 07:09 AM)Jenniferlove Wrote:
(10-04-2019, 09:49 PM)UK1068 Wrote: The domes are going into your armpit? I use XL domes and have never had them go beyond side boob. Anything applying pressure to the veins in your armpit will cause numbness and cut circulation. I have pretty poor circulation myself (arms go numb just from washing my hair, or I wake up at night and one is numb), but I had these issues even before I started using the noogle. If you have problems already, then a bad fitting dome will exacerbate it. We are so used to our circulation that we don't even realize we have an issue until we use something like this, and it becomes obvious. To say the noogle caused this problem if you have numbness from day one, that is not fair.  That would be like being born with a bad ankle, then saying it's your shoes fault you have painful ankles.


Clearly you have a larger frame than us.  Just because it doesn't happen to you *gasp* doesn't mean that it's not happening to others.  For some of us, the cup IS grabbing into our armpits.  There is NO warning against that though which is the problem.  If I had known that, I never would have upgraded to the XXL cups.


You mentioned bad ankle. Well first of all your doctor will tell you not to wear heels. And it’s common sense to wear comfortable shoes. For pumps, it’s not common sense how to use it properly. Nobody really knows. And even the whole armpit thing is just our guess. search macdonald hot coffee lawsuit, this is a better analogue than bad ankle. A women spill hot coffee and got burnt. Macdonald lost the lawsuit and paid lots of money. We are not supposed to guess what’s with the product. We should be informed. My puming cups don’t dig in my armpit. It made my nipples so big and insensitive that I switched to other NBE method. Some memebers use it for a year with no big breast size change. What we are trying to say is pumping isn’t for everyone. And the seller could have made it clear, providing better instructions and proper warnings. The whole macdonald hot coffee lawsuit could happen to breast pump seller too.
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(19-04-2019, 04:15 PM)bosekk Wrote:
(19-04-2019, 07:09 AM)Jenniferlove Wrote:
(10-04-2019, 09:49 PM)UK1068 Wrote: The domes are going into your armpit? I use XL domes and have never had them go beyond side boob. Anything applying pressure to the veins in your armpit will cause numbness and cut circulation. I have pretty poor circulation myself (arms go numb just from washing my hair, or I wake up at night and one is numb), but I had these issues even before I started using the noogle. If you have problems already, then a bad fitting dome will exacerbate it. We are so used to our circulation that we don't even realize we have an issue until we use something like this, and it becomes obvious. To say the noogle caused this problem if you have numbness from day one, that is not fair.  That would be like being born with a bad ankle, then saying it's your shoes fault you have painful ankles.


Clearly you have a larger frame than us.  Just because it doesn't happen to you *gasp* doesn't mean that it's not happening to others.  For some of us, the cup IS grabbing into our armpits.  There is NO warning against that though which is the problem.  If I had known that, I never would have upgraded to the XXL cups.


You mentioned bad ankle. Well first of all your doctor will tell you not to wear heels. And it’s common sense to wear comfortable shoes. For pumps, it’s not common sense how to use it properly. Nobody really knows. And even the whole armpit thing is just our guess.  search macdonald hot coffee lawsuit, this is a better analogue than bad ankle.  A women spill hot coffee and got burnt. Macdonald lost the lawsuit and paid lots of money. We are not supposed to guess what’s with the product. We should be informed. My puming cups don’t dig in my armpit. It made my nipples so big and insensitive that I switched to other NBE method. Some memebers use it for a year with no big breast size change. What we are trying to say is pumping isn’t for everyone. And the seller could have made it clear, providing better instructions and proper warnings. The whole macdonald hot coffee lawsuit could happen to breast pump seller too.


UK seems like a troll to me.  Perhaps she in relation to Noogleberry somehow.  Isn't Noogleberry in the UK?

Anyway, she truly has a lot of nerve to come on here and berate me because my experience doesn't fall in line with her personal experiences. Luckily I have been healing and feeling A LOT better.  Not sure how I would have reacted if she had written me that 6 months ago. 

I see her giving poor advice in another thread as well.  Talking about it not being a big deal to skip periods from estrogen-rich products, all in the name of growing breasts.  Excess estrogen is one of the main causes of breast cancer.  It is a HUGE deal.
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