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The Comprehensive NBE Program
(05-10-2018, 09:32 PM)Cely Wrote: I find a progesterone cream on biovea, it is easy to dose, so, I don’t risk to overdose, I think I could try.
Is a good choice to do EVening primrose oil in follicular+progesterone in lutheal? Or maybe should I use PM+PC? 
I also like the idea of using PM cream in follicular only.

Do u know if EPO has a pro-aromatase effect? Someone claims this on longhair forum


If you use PM in luteal keep the dose low at that time, such as 100 mg.  Or you may use a different phytoestrogen instead during luteal such as red clover or flax.

I don't know if EPO is pro-aromatase but it seems unlikely since males use it too.  As far as I can tell it seems to be mostly for GLA and most people can make their own GLA.  Especially with good nutrition like the food mix.
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Hey joe, I don’t wanna use PM all the month, I did it, and It increased just my thights and cellulite. 
If I’ll use it i think is better to use a topical or cycling. 


Also, one of my friend interest in NBE used PM and she grew, but she get something like “man boobs”, is this due to low progesterone? 

Right now I don’t know what to add on my program, I read that saw palmetto lowers estrogens, this can be ok for me because of my heavy thights (and maybe estrogen dominance) but i’m Not sure if I m on the right way. 
I can’t find white peony, so, i’m Thinking about hops or goat’s rue...
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(07-10-2018, 03:18 PM)Cely Wrote: Hey joe, I don’t wanna use PM all the month, I did it, and It increased just my thights and cellulite. 
If I’ll use it i think is better to use a topical or cycling. 


Also, one of my friend interest in NBE used PM and she grew, but she get something like “man boobs”, is this due to low progesterone? 

Right now I don’t know what to add on my program, I read that saw palmetto lowers estrogens, this can be ok for me because of my heavy thights (and maybe estrogen dominance) but i’m Not sure if I m on the right way. 
I can’t find white peony, so, i’m Thinking about hops or goat’s rue...


If PM did that to you from taking it all month then it will probably do that in general.  Best to limit the amount of PM in general.  Hops is also pretty strong (but much weaker than PM).  Up to 1,800 mg is used all month but you’ll want much less than this.  Optionally you may cycle it but it’s not necessary.

I’m not sure about shape but it is often from low progesterone or low collagen.
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Well, you inspired me, today i order my progesterone cream, but i’ll Use it just in my lutheal because I think i’m also lacking of estrogens, so, I don’t want to mess up my body. 

Also, I find a lot of scientific articles about ginecomastia, and I see it’s related with prolactin and it is generally permanent (a lot of boys who used antipsychotic drugs-which lead to hyperprolactinemia- can’t get rid of man boobs without surgery) so maybe goats rue and hops are a good choice. 

I have a lot of nipple pain and something tingles since I’m taking saw palmetto, I think it is a good sign, isn’t it? 

Thank u for all your informations Joe.
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