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(26-10-2016, 08:32 PM)rateset Wrote:  I read that you recommend taking fenugreek extract containing saponines. There are different types of saponines, I only found the information about diosgenin resulting in growth of mamary tissue, as well as increasing the sensitivity of the receptors etc. Is it only kind of saponine that we need? Also when I search for diosgenin I always find much more yams pills, then fenugreek since the concentration of diosgenin in yams is supposed to be higher, it is very common to find yams pills with 20% diosgenin. I read the concentration of diosgenin in fenugreek seeds is between 0,4-0,8 or something like that. I know that is why you said it is better to take the fenugreek extract than the pills with the powder from the seed.
When it says 50% saponine in fenugreek pills, does it mean different sorts of saponine or only diosgenin? 
How much should I take if it clearly says diosgenin, which it does on my wild yams pills? Also 1000mg Diosgenin?

Sorry for the delay, I think I was super busy last time I saw this post and then forgot about it.  Other saponins besides diosgenin are helpful too.  Diosgenin just happens to be the most common saponin in fenugreek and wild yam.  The 20% diosgenin pills you are looking at are an extract; wild yam is typically 0.5 to 1.2% diosgenin:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/458952...h-control/ (the article says wild yam doesn't work as birth control btw, just ctrl+F the info on diosgenin)
Likewise you can find fenugreek extracts with up to 50% saponins.  As you can tell that is much stronger than the powder which IIRC is a little under 2% saponins (maybe 0.4-0.8% is diosgenin only?).  50% saponin fenugreek has various saponins which includes diosgenin but also others.  Since diosgenin is the most common saponin in both, you wouldn't be too far off to assume that the strength of diosgenin is similar to the strength of the saponins in general.  It would at least be in the right ballpark.  Beyond that I don't know precisely.
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