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#11

Breast pumping will definitely help... before you buy one check this out...

www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19940

to make sure you don't buy the wrong size dome! As long as you stick with it I'm sure you'll reach your goal!
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#12

Wild yam or progesterone should be taken from days 14-28 of the cycle to normalize progesterone levels, which peak in the luteal phase, or second half of the cycle. I do not recommend progesterone creams, because they can be stored in fat tissue and build up to unhealthy levels.
(yikes)

To balance the excess estrogen, use natural progesterone in the form of a cream that is absorbed through the skin.

Natural progesterone cream. Apply one measured spoon (1⁄4 teaspoon) of the cream to the breasts twice a day 12 hours apart. Follow the directions on the label as to when in the month to use the cream. If you are post menopausal then you can use the cream through out the month with out a break. Though I recommend that these women use the cream for 25 days in the month and give themselves 5 days off.

PC creams
http://www.growbreastsnaturally.com/brea...cream.html

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0062Q44DA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0062Q44DA&linkCode=as2&tag=anarchyforaar-20
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http://mustgrowbust.com/bovine-ovary
okay I am seriously not putting my body back into puberty mode, I am glad I am out of that! ugh

"Progesterone has a very large influence on underboob and general "fullness" (as well as Prolactin). So, you can get some tesing done to see if your levels are generally low (or estrogen is high -- reciprocal relationship) or just try using a P cream in sync with your rhythms. I'm using a cream myself every other 2 weeks to help simulate a cycle. (Get a natural P that's USP or equivalent in grading)"

"Progesterone cream aka Natural progesterone cream in order to distinguish it from artificial progesterone (progestin) - is derived from wild yam in the lab. It is bio-identical to our own progesterone we produce. This means the molecules are the same and the body uses natural progesterone cream the same way it uses body made progesterone. This is not the case for artificial progesterone - the kind given in birth control pills. That molecule most resembles testosterone. It does connect to the progesterone receptors, but it is unable to produce the progesterone effect in the body. When a woman is on birth control pills with artificial progesterone, using natural progesterone cream does not help them because the progesterone receptors are already filled with the artificial stuff."
- http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=5153

pc cream|
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=21094
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#13

(13-10-2014, 12:47 PM)Karren Wrote:  Breast pumping will definitely help... before you buy one check this out...

www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=19940

to make sure you don't buy the wrong size dome! As long as you stick with it I'm sure you'll reach your goal!

thank you very much ^___^ I have favorite'd your link! when I buy I will be sure to over look this before! ^^
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#14

Okay, so I know I have been posting a lot on this specific page-- I am using it to keep my findings and thoughts together.. if anyone benefits from these links- great! I hope it can widen some horizons on NBE and how hormones, creams and herbs can affect you, also how to take them.

with that being said, I am getting completely over whelmed.. there are so many possibilities, so many outcomes and so many results..

So, first things first-
I think I am going to discuss my with my doctor the removal of my cyst.
I think I am going to see an endocrinologist and see what is going on with my body. Tell them about my cyst if I dont get it removed yet.
I am going to bring up progesterone cream.
my birth control
my fear of acne (am NOT traveling down that route again, my skin is baby smooth now, no marks at all, a pimple here or there.. when I was 18-20 I was a complete mess. Very devastating)
which also comes to my fear of trying Bovine Ovary.
My estrogen (excess estrogen?) my progesterone (and lack there of?) how I want low androgen's and low testosterone. Maybe I have high insulin, which can cause breast shrinkage.

all in all Noogleberry has no effect what so ever on hormones, just your body and giving you the results you want- if that does not work, look into fat graphing or some kind of surgery.. last resort.

"Ovarian cysts changes in the way your breasts and body hair grow. In rare cases, ovarian cysts can cause abnormal amounts of hormones to be produced, which can speed up or change the way your breasts and body hair grow."

a HA!

http://www.marilyn.ca/HealthFitness/segm...geHormones

see?

I also want to look into MSM, it very good for skin and breast health.
http://www.progressivehealth.com/acne-msm.htm

it seems people who are good with estrogen, get better when they take progesterone and vise versa.. and too much male hormones causes facial hair, breast shrinkage etc. I just cant seem to figure out which I am lacking.
I would love to take PC cream and have everything normal, but estrogen seem to make breast big too.. but my breast swell in my luthal phase, which is when progesterone rises.. but then I am thinking if my BCP levels me out, will I even need these things? ughhh..

what I would love to do, is BO, PC & NB and maybe have my BCP (to my knowledge BO & PC (when pc is cycled) they do not effect BCP) seems perfect. but a lot of hormonal changes. scary.
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#15

(15-10-2014, 01:46 AM)missboobshirt Wrote:  Okay, so I know I have been posting a lot on this specific page-- I am using it to keep my findings and thoughts together.. if anyone benefits from these links- great! I hope it can widen some horizons on NBE and how hormones, creams and herbs can affect you, also how to take them.

with that being said, I am getting completely over whelmed.. there are so many possibilities, so many outcomes and so many results..

So, first things first-
I think I am going to discuss my with my doctor the removal of my cyst.
I think I am going to see an endocrinologist and see what is going on with my body. Tell them about my cyst if I dont get it removed yet.
I am going to bring up progesterone cream.
my birth control
my fear of acne (am NOT traveling down that route again, my skin is baby smooth now, no marks at all, a pimple here or there.. when I was 18-20 I was a complete mess. Very devastating)
which also comes to my fear of trying Bovine Ovary.
My estrogen (excess estrogen?) my progesterone (and lack there of?) how I want low androgen's and low testosterone. Maybe I have high insulin, which can cause breast shrinkage.

all in all Noogleberry has no effect what so ever on hormones, just your body and giving you the results you want- if that does not work, look into fat graphing or some kind of surgery.. last resort.

"Ovarian cysts changes in the way your breasts and body hair grow. In rare cases, ovarian cysts can cause abnormal amounts of hormones to be produced, which can speed up or change the way your breasts and body hair grow."

a HA!

http://www.marilyn.ca/HealthFitness/segm...geHormones

see?

I also want to look into MSM, it very good for skin and breast health.
http://www.progressivehealth.com/acne-msm.htm

it seems people who are good with estrogen, get better when they take progesterone and vise versa.. and too much male hormones causes facial hair, breast shrinkage etc. I just cant seem to figure out which I am lacking.
I would love to take PC cream and have everything normal, but estrogen seem to make breast big too.. but my breast swell in my luthal phase, which is when progesterone rises.. but then I am thinking if my BCP levels me out, will I even need these things? ughhh..

what I would love to do, is BO, PC & NB and maybe have my BCP (to my knowledge BO & PC (when pc is cycled) they do not effect BCP) seems perfect. but a lot of hormonal changes. scary.


part 2:

Pueraria Mirifica-The most potent phytoestrogen, targets E receptors, minor anti-androgen
Fenugreek-Prolactin stimulate, increases production of estrogen, phytoestrogen, adaptogen
Fennel-Promotes milk production, nutrient rich for NBE growth, stimulates the growth of breast tissue
Wild yam-Stimulates hormone production, increases progesterone, prolactin, anti-androgen, and slows the metabolism of estrone, one of the body's own estrogens.
Dong Quai-Balance hormones, assists breast enlargement, improves gland function activities
Maca root-Abundant in amino acids, phytonutrients, healthy fatty acids, vitamins, and minerals, increase in energy and libido, adaptogen

(taken off a link I previously posted, credit for info goes to that person)

however, those seem to be herbs I am willing to take, they coincide with one another, already taking some of them.

BO:
http://mustgrowbust.com/2012/must-know-b...vine-ovary

http://mustgrowbust.com/2012/natural-bre...ar-breasts

http://www.growbreastsnaturally.com/bovi...nlargement

MSM:
http://www.supernutritionlife.com/msm-be...r-breasts/

http://getcurvynow.com/breast-enhancemen...thane-msm/

6000 mg of MSM
http://www.amazon.com/MRM-Vegetarian-Cap...B000GFYSFC
these are 1000mg

I dont think I will need PC cream with some of these herbs. I dont want to over load on hormones.
If I want my progesterone, I am not going to take wild yam, and PC cream- I will look at herbs that promote hormonal balance such as Dong Quai and Fennel.
^reminder for myself.

BO:
http://www.amazon.com/Raw-Ovarian-Glandu...B004FDXLX6

someone said CLEARER skin? woah! thats a plus Smile

I wonder if one should cycle BO?

PC!:
kokoro: http://www.amazon.com/Kokoro-Natural-Pro...B0043G5RP0
progestell.: http://www.amazon.com/Progestelle-Proges...B008SFUOP0
emerit: http://www.amazon.com/Emerita-Pro-Gest-C...B000IMQE5U

So main thing,
NB: tension build up, massage/exercise for breast - helps shape, firm and full out breast.
BO: causes hormones to fluctuate, grows breast. (good for tubular as well)
PC:
but what about estrogen?: PM? or my BCP? or have my excess estrogen do the trick? maybe take a herb enriched with estrogen.
BC or fennugreek?

if I use a PC will I have to balance it out with an estrogen? or am I making up for my lack of progesterone, and my estrogen dominance..

Q's for a doctor.
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#16

(13-10-2014, 12:03 AM)missboobshirt Wrote:  http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=21602

this makes me want to look in fenugreek & now wild yam, I like that wild yam increases progesterone, prolactin, anti-androgen..

Pueraria Mirifica-The most potent phytoestrogen, targets E receptors, minor anti-androgen (daidzien)
Fenugreek-Prolactin stimulate, increases production of estrogen, phytoestrogen, adaptogen
Fennel-Promotes milk production, nutrient rich for NBE growth, stimulates the growth of breast tissue
Wild yam-Stimulates hormone production, increases progesterone, prolactin, anti-androgen, and slows the metabolism of estrone, one of the body's own estrogens.

anti-androgen blocks testosterone for breast growth.
Heeyy I'm excited for you!! Well I'm taking pm but I forget to record results I barely have a slight change which meant I had to find another way . I recently starting mixing the capsule powder with olive oil leave it until I'm ready to use it massage my boobs and then wrap them for heat ... The smell is strong it absorbs so damn fast ... The fenugreek I didn't get results but instead I smelled horriblr like maple syrupy armpits too ew (took them internally)
http://www.livestrong.com/article/517709...n-breasts/

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#17

This corresponds to your body’s natural hormonal rhythms – increased estrogen during menses and increase progesterone after menses."
(12-10-2014, 04:55 AM)missboobshirt Wrote:  Isn't it the other way around ? Estrogen production goes way up after your period and lowers again after ovulation while progesterone gets a major steep after ovulation. Or am I deadly wrong here ?

Everything about PC:
http://www.growbreastsnaturally.com/brea...cream.html

http://yestheyrenatural.com/can-you-get-...one-cream/
--
"If you are using progesterone cream, remember that you don’t have to take it every day. It’s recommended that you use the progesterone cream daily for two to three week prior to the onset of your period.

If you want, you can cycle the progesterone cream with a phytoestrogenic herb like Pueraria Mirifica. To do this, take the Pueraria Mirifica on the days you have your period and then use the progesterone cream on the days you do not have your period. This corresponds to your body’s natural hormonal rhythms – increased estrogen during menses and increase progesterone after menses."

this sounds like a good way to balance estrogen & progesterone-- but then again, why not just go on BC if its an hormonal issue?

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#18

A quick link before I reply~

4 main hormones for breast growth:

http://naturalremedysite.blogspot.com/20...reast.html
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#19

It looks like you have a good program here! I just wanted to jump in quickly and say taking wild yam does not equal more progesterone. The human body cannot convert wild yam into progesterone, that only can happen in a lab environment. Wild yam does not contain any progesterone, it's a weak estrogen. Here's a source for you Smile http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmen...s/wild-yam

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(28-10-2014, 05:25 AM)busty-amazon-tbj Wrote:  It looks like you have a good program here! I just wanted to jump in quickly and say taking wild yam does not equal more progesterone. The human body cannot convert wild yam into progesterone, that only can happen in a lab environment. Wild yam does not contain any progesterone, it's a weak estrogen. Here's a source for you Smile http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmen...s/wild-yam

Oh wow! yikes ^^; thanks so much for the information! I probably wont be looking into much estrogen based herbs, seeing as I am thinking I am estrogen dominant-- also I am thinking PM has enough estrogen in it than almost any herb out there o.o
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