[Dynseli]

I was suggesting using peony currently, which I think an aromatase was missing. Hops is a potent prolactin. It'd be helpful to drop or finish PM. PM isn't healthy, and it appears to raise mood issues that are associated with androgens.

I think if you don't have excessive hair, and aren't having problems, then that's one indication that your hormones may be balanced.

sorry to go off on this thread, but lovely, do you think that androgens are the #1 thing that can slow down growth?

I'm using mainly topical herbs including a PM cream and they seem to be doing something good for the most part, but I'm beginning to wonder if I might have too high androgens. I thought using estrogenic herbs could counteract the effects of androgens? maybe not?

Some androgens are necessary for breast growth, but too much hinders breast growth. Converting androgens into estrogens (through aromatase) is the best way to make use of them.

i've considered getting a white peony extract and some tea tree and lavender for topical use to counteract androgens.

This is the idea for aromatase.

NBE needs aromatase, prolactin, and progestogen to be effective according to Rocketmelon's program. So the aromatase you brought up, then hops, fenugreek and milk thistle would make up everything. Eat a lot of dietary fiber, and other healthy foods too.