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i don't really cycle PM anymore since i get my period while on PM anyways - which makes me wonder if PM has any effect on me. i basically take PM all the way though, get my period, and while on my period, i take a few days off and just do FG, SP, WY + GR.

i take around 2G of GR a day. did you notice more swelling/tenderness when you took GR? and how much did you take?

is marolane injections available in the US? i guess that's one option... but i don't like the fact that it's temporary. and that stuff dissolves in your body but what if one side dissolves faster than the other side? worse, no one knows how safe it really is long term right?



I got lots of tenderness from GR but only in the beginning. I get this pretty much with everything in the beginning until I get used to the new product. I have had no tenderness at all in the last few weeks!

I think Macrolane is available in the US as well. I know it is temporary but I like the idea of the easy recovery plus if you do not like it you just do not have to repeat the treatment once it is all gone. I suppose I am still hoping that I will grow eventually and Marcolane is just a temporary solution in the meantime. The stemcell fat transfer sounds like the best choice but it is also quite new and is not widely available. I think I may have found a clinic more or less in my area that offers this so I may look into it further.

How long have you been on PM now and do you want continue with it? You are stopping to use the cream and will only take PM internally?
what brand of GR were you/are you using? i think you're right in that the body gets used to GR. i've had to ramp up my GR significantly since i started taking it. i'm still getting slight tenderness if i massage/squeeze them. once the tenderness is gone, i'll take a break from GR, then start again. it's the only supplement so far that i know for sure has some effect on my boobs.

i guess in the back of my mind, i'm seeing macrolane/stem cell transfer as an option. BUT, i would give it at least a few years. it's still so new. the doctors aren't as experienced in the procedure, and what about unknown complications? i've done a little bit of research on it and one thing i know, is some of the fat can harden, thus creating hard lumps on your breasts. plus, it is actually a lot more painful than they make it out to be. but please let me know what you find out too through your research.

i've been on PM for 6 months now. i've gain some breast tissues, but i'm confident i have NOT gain a cup size. i am continuing taking the PM as pills form, but not wasting more money on cream/lotion.

i'm attaching a photo of me when i started PM, and me as of last week. you can see i've grown a little, but nothing like a few cups worth like some of the other girls.

Congratulations, lled,

That is growth. The growth of idreamofD started with overboob too.

Thank you for the tip on ramping up goat's rue: I can't prove it positively, but I think goat's rue made the real difference in my program too.
congrats! you're making great progress =]
I got my GR from the pharmacy so I do not even remember the brand.

You definitely have made some progress, congratulations! I think I have also had some growth with PM and definitely look fuller, generally between the NB sessions. May be we just have to stick to it for a few years to reach real results.

thanks you guys. sometimes it's discouraging because the growth is sooo slow, but at least i've made progress, and hopefully still am making progress... though i'm not too sure as my boobs looked the fullest back in september/october.

luisa, what size are you? seems pretty consistent that smaller girls have a much more difficult time with NBE. i'm thinking of taking PM for at least another 6 months... so 1 year total, and see what my progress will be.

since at at the 6 months mark, and i've just had my period, i'm taking 1 week off PM to do milk thristle cleanse. i'm still taking GR though, just less. hopefully i wont lose much volume from this.
I am 32AAA and it is almost no size at all. I do not have anything at all to push up when I put on a push-up bra. My swelling from the NB is mostly at the top. When I pump hard my nipples end up looking down. Do you also get more swelling at the top? From you pictures you have a nice shape and volume at the bottom and on the sides.

I am also planning to continue taking PM. PM in combination with a few other things has made my skin clear, smooth and my acne scars are disappearing (this must be from MSM). I am very happy with these side effects of NBE.

Do you continue taking MSM and other supplements during the cleanse? How much milk thirstle do you take? I have not really made a proper cleanse yet. I did stop taking PM for a week or two during the last few cycles though. I get headaches when I take it for too long.
i feel like i hardly have any tissue on top and on the sides. i can push my finger in 1 inch above my nipple and i can feel my ribcage. when i pump, i get swelling on top as well as bottom... but it's most noticeable in the middle. i'm attaching a photo so you can see... that's after 1hr of pumping. if i pump for more than 2hrs, i can maybe get another .25" of swelling.

i know what you mean about having nothing to push up in a push up bra. i had that problem all the way until recently. the trick is to go down a band size if you can. i know some specialty online bra stores carries sizes 30AA and even 28AA i think. you mentioned you look fuller now right? i think we're both making progress, just EXTREMELY slow. for me, the kicker was definitely goat's rue. also, are your thyroids functioning properly? if you look at my earlier posts when i was on BO, i had thyroid issues. i just couldn't grow. it wasn't until i got that fixed (i think, i hope) that i started seeing progress.

i have a little bit of MSM left. after i finish it though, i wont continue. i feel like it doesn't really have any impact on me... unless i take a lot then i get a headache and dizziness. my hair is pretty shiny despite me blow drying it every day. i don't know if this has anything to do with MSM?

right now, on my "cleanse"... which i don't really know is much of a cleanse since the only thing i stopped taking is PM. i'm taking 150mg of milk thristle 2x a day. it's been 2 days, so far so good, i'm going to increase it to 3x a day. i'm also taking greenbush serum which has FG, WY, and SP. i mix it with GR. it's been 5 days without PM, and my period is just over, and my breasts have been decently full considering that usually around this time of the cycle, i am SUPER deflated. oh, and i've been taking hops at night for the last week and a half.












something is happening! Big Grin it's day 7 of my cycle and my breasts are full and perky. throughout the day, if i press in on them, they feel a little sore. i hope this will translate to growth!!!

new changes to my program that i've made recently:

- took a break from PM (7 days off so far)
- started milk thristle ( today's the 4th day)
- started hops at night (12th day)
- increased my GR intake (17th day)

still NG once or twice a day, almost every day.

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