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Stem cell breast enhancement surgery
February 20 2008 at 9:16 AM Jen  (no login)

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I'd be interested in anyone's thoughts on the stem cell procedure. I see it's been discussed here before, but I'd like to hear the latest thinking on it. I know it's available now and some women have had it done.

 
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sheep
(no login) Re: Stem cell breast enhancement surgery February 20 2008, 2:51 PM 


I would love to have this done does anyone know what countries perform this and also i am very thin 5 3'102 pounds would i still work?

 
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Alicia
(no login) Re: Stem cell breast enhancement surgery February 21 2008, 8:39 AM 


To be honest you sound a bit too thin to me. You need to have a fair amount of fat liposuctioned out first before they can re-inject it into your breasts. I don't think you have much spare fat on you.

 
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Katie
(no login) Re: Stem cell breast enhancement surgery February 22 2008, 7:37 AM 


The countries which are known to do this are Japan and Korea. I'm not sure but I think someone said Germany.

 
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Cutie Pie
(Login cutie.pie) Re: Stem cell breast enhancement surgery February 24 2008, 8:06 AM 


The clinic in Germany which offers the stem sell breast enhancement surgery claims to be the only clinic in Europe which offers this procedure. They also state that improvement in breast size is limited.

 
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Zoe
(no login) Re: Stem cell breast enhancement surgery February 26 2008, 9:34 AM 


Is the stem cell surgery for breast enhancement under discussion the same as the celution system? And if so does that mean that the German clinic mentioned above which offers this prodecure is providing the celution (which I had thought wasn't even available yet, that's the reason I'm asking the question)?

 
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autumn
(Login auttie14) Natural Breast Enhancement Fat Grafting In Arizona February 27 2008, 4:55 AM 


There is a website smartliposurgery.com and on there this man in AZ Dr. Malan does the fat transfer into the breast. Click on other procedures and you will see it says natural breast enhancement this looks like an amazing procedure that I am seariusly considering.He seems like the best dr. for the job to me and also the smartlipo sounds way better than normal lipo. Also here is a list of other doctors that are suppose to do it one of the Doctors Dr. Khouri on the MiamiHand center he invented the brava and many of these doctors use the brava as part of there procedure to help make room in the breast for more fat and after the surgery to shape the fat into the breast.

Florida
Miami Hand Center, Medical Office of Roger Khouri MD, Miami, Florida, 33176
Roger K Khouri, MD 305-661-3000

Massachusetts (2)
1. Karl Heinz Breuing, M.D., Carlisle, Massachusetts, 01741
Beth Boncore 617-983-4535

2. Back Bay Plastic Surgery, Boston, Massachusetts, 02116
Daniel A Del Vecchio, MD 617-262-8528

Mississippi
John McCraw , Universtiy of Mississippi Medical Center, Jackson, Mississippi, 39216
John B McCraw, MD
New York
Sydney R. Coleman, M.D., LLP, New York, New York, 10013
Sydney R Coleman, MD 212-571-5200
Alesia Saboeriro, MD



 
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Cutie Pie
(Login cutie.pie) Re: Stem cell breast enhancement surgery February 27 2008, 8:52 AM 


The clinic in Germany which offers stem cell surgery for breast enhancement is using it's own stem cell method, not the celution system. As you said yourself, the celution system isn't available yet.

 
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Burdock
(no login) Re: Stem cell breast enhancement surgery May 17 2008, 7:43 AM 


Yes I heard about a clinic in Boston doing this. I'm not sure if it's the same one you mentioned above, as I don't recognise the name. But the procedure is going to be similar (cost at least $10,000).

celution
June 28 2008 at 7:37 PM twilightsrose (Login twilightsrose)

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hey there, just thought I would add, there is a Plastic Surgeon in Vienna Austria currently doing the Stem Cell Implantation:

http://stemcells.ddrheinrich.com/content...2/lang,en/



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Pumpkin
(no login) Re: celution June 29 2008, 9:18 AM


That's very interesting. According to this site it's the only clinic in Europe doing this procedure.


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Unknown Sheep
(no login) Re: celution July 14 2008, 7:36 AM


As I understand it, this isn't the celution system as such, but a similar system of stem cell implantation, so the outcome should be pretty much the same. I wonder if this idea will really catch on?


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Sylviatob
(Login Sylviatob) This could revolutionize tradational B.A. August 4 2008, 4:55 PM


I have read with great interest in this procedure. It's still in the infancy stages, and I'm waiting with baited breath to have the procedure approved for use here in the U.S.
Does anyone have any update on when this might occur?

(P.S. this is my very, very, very first post. Great forums! Thanks)


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amy
(no login) Re: celution August 4 2008, 6:37 PM


Boston demotology does this procedure !
Its 450 dollars 4 consult and 10,000.00 -15,000.00 same one as they do in japan

oh and its boston massachusettes usa


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Sylviatob
(Login Sylviatob) Re: celution August 4 2008, 9:54 PM


$10k-$15k! OUCH! By the way some articles read, the cost would be in the $4,000-$5,000 range! Well....it is a brand new procedure. Hopefully the cost will come down over time. At least it's started here in U.S.
Thanks for the good info.


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amy
(no login) Re: celution August 5 2008, 5:32 PM


Yes thats alot but no surgery,no after surgery to fix problems,they areyours ,antural.
I just wish i had sum fat!Im


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Sylviatob
(Login Sylviatob) celution August 6 2008, 3:31 PM


I totally agree Amy. No surgery, recovery time or follow ups to fix problems. And your growth is all you! Naturally. For me though, for a 1 cup size increase, it's as unreachable, as a 2 or 3 cup size increase with B.A. (sigh).
As Cytoritx's machines offer so much more potential than the purposes of NBE, I would think that institutions(doctor's, hospitals, clinics, etc) will see the value of the procedures, and will become more commonplace over time. And more machines, will mean the cost of R&D for them will come down, precipitating a decrease in the cost of them, thusly dropping the costs for the various procedures these incredible machines are capable of. Hopefully, it will be in my lifetime! LOL


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Trudy
(no login) Re: celution August 7 2008, 12:42 PM


Where does the idea come from that there's no surgery? I thought it was quite a long surgical procedure.


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Sylviatob
(Login Sylviatob) No surgery August 7 2008, 4:09 PM


Trudy, you are correct. The surgery is actual liposuction performed to extract your own fat cells for processing. As I understand it, after one hour of processing, the stem cells are injected into your breasts, which starts the growing process. But the time involved, if I remember correctly, from start to finish is 1-2 hours. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, please



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amy
(no login) Re: celution August 7 2008, 4:17 PM


I think its like 4-6 hours


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Sylviatob
(no login) Re: celution August 7 2008, 7:54 PM


Amy, not to argue with you, I'm just paraphrasing from an article I read:

"The operation is said to take place under local anaesthetic and is over within an hour, making it feasible as a “lunch time operation.” The costs are also said to be around the $4,000 mark, so on a par with having silicon breast implants. It is claimed that the operation can increase the breast cup size by up to two sizes and scientists are hoping that the first operations will go ahead next year."

Here's the link:
http://www.cosmeticsurgerybible.com/2007...-breastss/

Another article:
"The procedure, called Celution, takes just over an hour and involves injecting a "super-charged'' fat mixture into breast tissue.
Fat is taken from a patient's buttocks or stomach using minor liposuction under local anaesthetic.
The useful stem cells are separated out and an hour later a dose of stem and regenerative cells is packaged into a cartridge ready for injection.
It costs a few thousand dollars and the breasts enlarge over about six months, according to the program's creator Cytori Therapeutics.
The link for that article:
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story...72,00.html

There are more articles at BuzzFeed: http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzz/Celution


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Trudy
(no login) Re: celution August 8 2008, 7:41 PM


I believe the "lunch time procedure" claim is nonsense. Some articles have clearly exaggerated the facts.

One thing that seems definite is that after the fat and cells are taken from you it takes an hour before the material can be re-injected. I think Cytori have said this all along, that if everything goes well with the processing it will still take an hour before the mixed material is available for the second part of the procedure.




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amy
(no login) Re: celution August 9 2008, 5:57 PM


Yes trudeus right,You should call boston dermotology and ask some questions.
I did and ithey said 450.00 for consult,4plus hours and this is celution -not fat transplant ect-the real one they offer in japan.
He was trained their and is the only one in the us to do this
But you need spare fat...


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L
(Login LizzyAnn) Re: celution August 14 2008, 3:05 AM


So...will it leave scars where they're doing liposuction on your tummy or butt? And where do they make the entry mark when putting it into the breast?


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Brianna
(no login) Re: celution August 14 2008, 7:18 AM


Scars from liposuction are usually minimal. This is because the incisions are small and therefore the scars are also small. The exact amount of scarring depends on the surgeon’s technique and the patient’s genetic or inherited scarring tendency. Some people are just more prone to scarring than others.




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amy
(no login) Re: celution August 15 2008, 9:37 PM


thay inject with needles i do beleive (big ones)


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Brianna
(no login) Re: celution August 17 2008, 8:27 AM


Yes I saw a video of it once. They seemed to be injecting with huge needles and it was just to the side of the breast. I mean the outside side of the breast and more towards the top than the bottom.


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skeeterbites
(Login skeeterbites) Re: celution August 26 2008, 7:29 PM


wow, that's some lunch hour! Fat sucked from your thighs then injected into your breasts. I'll wait a while for that one to be perfected a bit. It does sound interesting though. Wonder how long it lasts?


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Jane
(no login) Spare fat December 5 2008, 8:26 AM


I'll donate some fat to you girls who are too skinny to get this done. Lol, you guys are soo lucky!


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Tamie
(no login) Any update on Celution Procedure? April 7 2009, 1:13 AM


Hello,

I'm just wonder if anyone in here has any update information on Celution Procedure.

Thanks
I think this forum is great with lots of information on Surgery. ;-)


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sweetpea
(no login) Vienna Clinic July 31 2009, 11:30 AM


I emailed Dr Heinrich about the stem cell breast augmentation. He was very nice but said that the procedure would cost between £10,000 - £16,000 !!

It has some interesting before and after pics, which are worth checking out-
http://stemcells.ddrheinrich.com/content...2/lang,en/

I hope for everyones sake that the cost comes down!


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pick
(no login) Re: celution August 14 2009, 7:05 AM


it might not even last...the boobage u get that is


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pik
(no login) i sent an email this is what he emailed back August 15 2009, 6:14 PM


Hello,

im an american 23 yr old female . ive had 1 child. i was looking into getting this done since ive lost volume since my child. what are the cost of this stem cell breast enlargment procedur e in american dollars...
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and will the price ever drop down.
< (e.g. less surgeon time, cheaper and less experienced surgeons involved, lower cost and lower quality equipment). Almost always You are getting
what You have paid for.

will this ever b e in the usa?
< By the way US celebrities are coming
to my clinic in Vienna.

Best!

DDr.Heinrich

Stem cell
September 29 2008 at 6:03 PM Portugese_girl (no login)

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Hi,

This is to see if anyone has heard anything or has any advice on stem cell breast enlargement. I have booked a consultation with DDr Heinrich in Vienna in a couple of weeks with the operation scheduled the next day. It is to have a stem cell breast enlargement. I do not want a massive increase in size - I am mainly having the operation to try and correct some shrinkage stretch marks on the inner part of my breasts and to get a bit bigger.
Does anyone know anything about this procedure?

Thanks



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Sally Anne
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Stem cell October 2 2008, 6:58 AM


If you read throgh this forum you'll find that stem cell surgery is mentioned a few times.


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autumn
(Login auttie14) Re: Stem cell October 3 2008, 9:24 AM


Hi there. Do you live in Europe? If you are in the USA there is a Doctor in Phx that does this and he is suppose to be the best but it is about $18,000 I emailed De. Heinrich and thought about going but I live in the USA. How much is the procedure. If you get it done will you tell me how it goes and what its like? I want to do this so bad. I have read a lot about it and it sounds really good if you go to the best and the most experienced in a few years this will be the next best surgery. Please stay in contact if you get it done will you email me? Auttie1@aol.com

thanks SO much

Sorry I cant answer your question. I have not been able to find anyone that has actually had this done to them.



Autumn


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amy
(no login) hey this is done in boston ma. USA October 4 2008, 8:06 PM


boston dermotology is the only one besides china or watever.same exact teacher


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Nell Gwynne
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EVE MEMBERS Re: Stem cell October 14 2008, 2:43 PM


Search this forum for celution - you should find quite of lot of results (it's stem cell surgery too).


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silviana
(Login vienna.welles) Re: Stem cell December 23 2008, 6:55 PM


Hi Portuguesse girl,

Did you have your operation? if so, please tell us how was it. I am considering a consult with the same doctor (im from Europe) but I am not sure if what he sells about permanent is true.

DDr Heinrich in Vienna-any experience???
November 9 2009 at 9:59 AM Tiran1 (Login Tiran1)

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Hi everyone,
I have a question whether anyone had stem cell op done in this clinic.
I looked through their before and after picks- very impressive!!! I also send them (as they asked) my photo and asked about the price. They told me that it varies from 7000 Euro (for fat not enriched with stem cells only that is naturally occurring in it) to 21000 Euro (stem enriched).They also have something in between , when they add more stem cells to fat.
I was told that the 21000 Euro one is permanent, while the other 2 are long lasting....And those lucky to have AAA like me will need prob. more than one op.
As I live in London, it is a bit tricky to have consultation, although they do it on Skype as well...

21000 Euro is like WOW!!! I am thinking what are the guarantee that it will be permanent? The procedure is so new to state whether it is permanent...what do you think?? Big money, taking into account that implants are around 5000.

Also I am afraid that if person have no trouble burning off extra fat due to high metobolism or mb working out, will it make results shorter leaved?
Another concern, is how much fat do they need, as I have BMI 21.do i have enough of fat?

Also I can't any proper info on risks etc as it is so new. I know that there is another doctor in London getting ready to launch treatment in London in Jan...it will be 6500£ and probably the middle option of DDr Heinrich...

Well, please, share with me your opinion and also IF SOMEONE HAD IT DONE ALREADY-PLEASE SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE.



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Tiran1
(Login Tiran1) Re: DDr Heinrich in Vienna-any experience??? November 9 2009, 10:06 AM


Bellow is their answers to me....

Thank you for your interest in the b reast augmentation without silicone.
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> >1) how much does it cost?
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> The cost of the breast augmentation without sili cone depends on certain individual factors which are typically determined i n a consultation. The total price of all required procedures is in th e range between EUR 7,500 and EUR 20,000, including the basic liposuction p erformed using microcannulas, the laboratory process to enrich the fat with stem cells, and injection of the stem-cell-enriched own fat into the breas ts.
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> >2) what is the increase in terms of caps?
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> An augmentation of one up to two cup sizes is possible.
> > >3)how long do results last?
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> Depending on the ex act choice of method up to 95 % of the gained volume stay permanently.
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for how many ye ars do you practise this procedure?
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> DDr. Heinrich was the first doctor who offered breast augmentation with stem cells in Europe.&nbs p; In 2006, the treatment has been offered to selected patients, and since 2007 it's offered to a broader audience.

Transplanted fat can only survive over longer periods of time if it contains a high amount of undamaged, vital cells (among them especially stem cells). Therefore the right, careful harvesting and processing is essential for the success of Lipotransfer.
In standard Lipotransfer, own-fat, harvested by Liposuction or surgery is implanted without any further processing. The natural content of stem cells remains unchanged. If this procedure is performed perfectly and most gentle, about 60 % of the implanted volume will last over long time. Therefore treatment should be repeated after some period.
In stem cell concentrated Lipotransfer own-fat harvested by Liposuction or removed surgically will be concentrated. Thereby the content of vital cells and stem cells is increased. If this procedure is performed perfectly and most gentle, about 70–80 % of the implanted volume will last over long time. Treatment can be repeated after some period, if necessary.
In stem cell assisted Lipotransfer (CAL) stem cells from own fat will be isolated in complicated laboratory procedures and then added to the portion of fat which will be implanted. This procedure will give longer lasting results than any other method. On the long run about 95 % of the implanted volume can be expected to last. Treatment need not be repeated.



NOW WHEN I LOOK AT IT IT DOESN@T SEEMS THAT THEY STATE THAT ANY OF THIS METHOD ARE PERMANENT ....and lasting results can be intrepreted in many ways...I AM CONFUSED!!!!! Also practicing from 2007 can be called a vast experience, can it???
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