Hi all!
A pity I couldnt find my user id the last time, doesnt seem to be in use anymore, and Ive disappeared for awhile, so decided to set up a new ID.
A few questions:
I recently took Fenugreek, one per day 610mg for the past month ie. 21 days before my period cycle started. Up till before my period, everything looked good, boobies were probably the most swollen than ive seen them before.
Then I stopped during my period, and continued after it.
this time, with a capsule of saw palmetto 160mg each (too little?) with the capsule of fenugreek daily.
I saw massive reduction in boobie size in three days, and I am almost embarrassed.
I was wondering, has anyone had any experience with reduction in boobie size from taking saw palmetto?
My boob size usually decreases after my period, but this is the worst ive seen.
Aside from that, I know I shld be ramping up according to Waihaika's thread one herb at a time. Can anyone tell me how much of each shld I be taking? is it too little?
Hi,
The saw palmetto lowers tetosterone and any excess would likely get converted into estrogen so that wouldn't be part of your problem--and not likely on 1 cap per day. The standard dose on the bottle is very likely 2 per day. Saw palmetto is referenced back to the 1890's for increasing mammary glands so you need to look elsewhere. Also, 1 fenugreek isn't likely to do much either even if the cap is 600mg because the whole 600 mgs is not the vital ingredient.
Perhaps your reduction is simply due to other aspects of your physiology. Remember the breast is just fat, mammary gland and milk ducts (connective tissue, blood vessels , skin, etc). In whatever way you are trying to increase your size, it must effect one of these 3 things. Did you loose weight as well? any other signs or symptoms?
Hi,
Yes I have been losing quite alot of weight, it might be due to stress or the effects of the multi vitamin.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions about the dosages being insufficient, and for removing my fears of saw palmetto causing boobie reduction.
May I know what is the start off dosage for fenugreek and saw palmetto?
I read Waihaika's ramp-up steps, but I do not recall it mentioning the dosages in mg. I was advised once before, when my ID lolitayoyo was still working in the previous old forum, but cant seem to locate that now
any help would be much appreciated!
ooh! i went back to read and saw it was 500g start-off for day 1.
Guess I pretty much wasted my pills by taking too little
How much have you all been taking to see growth?
Are you trying to loose weight? If not, are you feeling well? If not, you might want to consult your doctor, because weight loss and not feeling well may be signs of other health problems. If it is stress from something, probably not a good time to try NBE. Controling the sourse of stress should come first--your health is more important than big boobs. The multi-vitamin would not be the cause of weight loss.
If you are loosing weight , that means that the fat that would be going to your boobs is going elsewhere and so it will be difficult to "grow". You have a mammary gland, fat, milk ducts and and connective tissue (collagen) and blood vessels and that's about it. Unless you are working the "milk producing angle" , adding some fat to your breasts will be the likely thing. Your mammary gland might grow some but your body would need something to set that in motion--like trying to grow another finger or something. Pregnancy would do that but that is the hard way to do NBE.
Actually , it is not necessarily a waste to try any herb or pill a little at a time just in case your have an adverse reaction--just like doing a skin test with hair color or hair remover, etc. Some people do have reactions and it is prudent to begin slowly.
hmm i would think it is stress, probably because some exams are coming up.
other than that my health seems fine, i started with Waihaika's ramp up method 7 days ago, it has been quite obvious that my stomach is putting on weight faster than the boobs. but the boobs do seem to have put on some weight, just havent had time to incorporate the massages =)
Has anyone tried MSM? I did MSM previously but that was when the fenugreek doses were very low, MSM did not have an effect on me, other than my face seeming rounder.
Is it safe to take PM with herbs?