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Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page.
May 2 2007 at 9:50 PM annieboobs (Login annieboobs)
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Gurls lets continue here, instead of the main page...
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Luvgrl
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 2 2007, 9:52 PM
Just saw this, I wanted to ask Beth how many cup sizes her 2.5" gained her?
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katherine
(Login BObabe) Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 2 2007, 10:55 PM
I'm going nuts, here! I chatted with Joseph this morning and have also begun this new adventure, however, after doing all of the initial stats, the instruction video for technique and week 1 instructions won't show up on my computer.......AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Nothing like getting the green light and not being able to access the information!!!!!!
katheine
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Black Sheep
(no login) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 3 2007, 12:25 AM
that happened to me too !!!!!
I still only have part of the first 2 instructions loaded and I have to guesws the rest but the 3rd andf 4 th came through !
weird eh ? Jessica_
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annieboobs
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 3 2007, 5:19 AM
Wow beth, ur now a small C that's awesome. Hopefully i can gain another cup as u. Good Job.
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Kitty
(Login Kittyluv09) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 2:41 AM
I've been on GYs for 7 days and i shrunk half an inch from my normal size.
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Alexia
(Login Alexia1981) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 8:37 AM
Grew 1 cm (0.4 inch) one inch above nipple and 3 inches above nipple! No increase around nipples or from collar one to nipple yet
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Black Sheep
(Login carlymoo) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 6:56 PM
Hi, everyone, am new to this forum and just wanted to introduce myself. I started GY 6 days ago, have had no growth as of yet. I have 3 children, youngest is 13 months old and i stopped breastfeeding 6 months ago, so i'm hoping for some growth soon. Anyhow just wanted to say hi and good luck with your growing ;-)
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fengshui
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 7:21 PM
I haven't done much massage these days cause my period is late (not common for me), so these few days I basicly only do some kneading massage, and I have some cloudy-gluey liquid coming out, I am a little concerned....is it a good sign? I don't really have growth yet, but def. fuller.
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 8:53 PM
Fengshui, you have liquid that soon?? I think it could be that GY is working, but we differ in how much we lactate on GY and that you would lactate a bit more or sooner. I'd email Joseph for some input.
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 8:57 PM
More questions!!!
Does everyone else feel their lobes really hard? When mine were small, they were like flat and soft and it felt kindof good to massage them, but today I noticed that the bigger ones got really hard and it's almost uncomfortable to press them.
I also wonder, if we grow lobes, the breasts don't get the kind of bumpy relief, do they? Could that mean that fat also gets deposited?
I can feel my lobes got bigger, but my breasts are the same size as before, is that normal?
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Black Sheep
(no login) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 10:13 PM
fengshui - its sounds like colestruem, the pre-milk stuff. When i was pregnant with my second, I started leaking that stuff around 7months. Only reason I new is that my bras were crusted to my nips. Once I actually started nursing though it took almost three full days before my milk actually came in, so I don't know what to tell you. I know if I get that, then I will probably stop.
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 6 2007, 7:07 PM
Is anyone else having a hard time counting lobes?? I find many, but I can't for the life of me count them, they're slippery and well hidden and sometimes I don't know if I'm feeling one big or two small that are very close together and I dunno which one I've counted already and which one not, it's damn impossible!!
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fengshui
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SENIOR MEMBER is that something I should worry about? May 6 2007, 10:38 PM
Hi, moon,black sheep, thanks for the input, I don't have any kids and have never breastfeed, I am still waiting for my period (not pregnant for sure). Since my period has been a week late(I have no idea if it has any thing with GY 'cause I just started Apr. 27), I only did some kneading massage and my old knuckle massage past few days, and I still get tiny drops of liquid come out, has anybody else experienced this?
should i be worried about this?
One more question, I had never felt any lobes from my previous growth(food+knuckle massage), now I might be feeling some seeds-size "thingy", as for GY method the lobes should get big, then how do we know it's not tumor when we do self-breasts-exam??? very confused here. :-(???
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Sara
(Login Sarabell239) counting lobes May 7 2007, 2:28 AM
i'm with you that moon! i try, but i really just end up making it up when updating. Much too difficult to get something exact-and also quite frustrating!
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MFP
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SENIOR MEMBER I hear ya, Moon May 7 2007, 4:38 AM
It is frustrating when you feel the lobes growing but not seeing or feeling the results. I've been on the prgram for 3 weeks now, I guess. But I stopped massaging last week. I was just feeling hopeless.
I thought I will try to gain back the few pounds that I lost then start all over again. I don't know if that make sense. lol
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fengshui
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SENIOR MEMBER to whom on GY with breastfeed experience May 7 2007, 12:26 PM
I hope this question is not too weird.
When you were breastfeeding, could you feel the lobes (should be grape size according to GY?)? and I hope this is okay to ask (sorry, I am a little shy) did your partners(or you) think your breasts feel different (except being a lot bigger)? cause some reports say that women's partners found the tumors on them when....you know....so I wonder if I do the GY and my lobes got grape-size big, will my breasts feel like squeshy balls with grapes in them?????
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Snowflake
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EVE MEMBERS Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 7 2007, 1:45 PM
Is anyone using a heating pad after massages? Also am very interested in hearing measurements of growth. Started massaging this weekend. My understanding is to massage every area of breast to manipulate lobes to grow. Breasts are very sore this morning, 4 massages behind me.
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 7 2007, 4:25 PM
To everyone who already greow some on GY - did you notice the difference in size together with lobes getting bigger, or later or sooner??? I feel my lobes growing, but boobs are the same...
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Sun
(Login ThaliaSun) Counting lobes... May 7 2007, 7:04 PM
Counting lobes became a futile attempt for me after about day four. There are too many in varying sizes and it's crazy-making to try to figure out if I'd already counted that one, or whatever.
So I just estimate. :-)
Yep, I'm a rule breaker.
~Sun
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 7 2007, 7:23 PM
Moon - I have the same problem :-( Bigger lobes, firmer same size boobs. I also posted that I feel barely any lobes on my right boob and I keep massaging and massaging but they don't seem to be appearing - just keep hitting my ribs.
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annieboobs
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SENIOR MEMBER Fustrating Indeed May 7 2007, 10:49 PM
me too ,i can't count the lobes, i get really fustrated. Today is day 18 and i haven't passed the 1inch . Also my hands get so tire di don't feel like massaging , neeed some motivation here ):.
Henri I have the same problem my right boobs which is my smaller one ,i can't feel the lobes, I massaged it more than my left one to see if i can get some lobes but , just not happening. my left one is so much fuller and feels like a bean bag.... So ur'e not alone on that one.
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 8 2007, 11:40 AM
Annie that is so funny that you said "bean bag" to describe your left boob because that is exactly what I was thinking it felt like!!!!
Cute and Moon - are you guys using your knuckles or your fingers? I know someone was using there knuckles to do the massages and I figured out why it isn't recommended. You won't feel anything to specifically target if you are using just your knuckles, whereas your fingers will pick up any slightest change in size - or something other then your ribs being there :-).
Oh I also found that if I lay on my back and do the massages I can feel the slightest bit of something on the bottom half of my right boob - sometimes it feels like it just a blood vessel, but I can't tell for sure - might give it a try - the only thing is, you have to be very careful as your breast shifts when your on your back and you wouldn't be targeting the same areas as you would sitting up so you need to readjust how you massage (this could be my problem).
Cute hang in there - I am kinda low right now too, especially reading how some half done and cleared the 1 inch mark and I can't get past it, so I know you have to be feeling frustrated right now. Try re-watching the video and see if that helps, I realized that I had been doing something wrong and after watching it I was able to correct it.
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Moon
(no login) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 8 2007, 8:22 PM
Henri, I think it's possible to have less lobes in one boob than the other, or in one place. I have a spot that is lobe-less right under the third rib. I guess I won't be able to grow there, that sucks. But anyway keep massaging.
I only used knucles when I wasn't feeling lobes yet, cause it gives more physical stimulation, but it less precise. But since I feel the lobes I use knuckles.
BTW, I find it a lot easier to massage when laying down, arms don't get as tired. Actually I've found great time to squeeze in some massage is in bed at night before sleeping and in the morning
before getting up, lol.
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 9 2007, 2:10 PM
Hey Moon- I know what you mean about laying down. Thats how I was getting mine in - falling asleep, watching a movie, reading a book - its actually kinda mindless know since I already know what I am looking for and feeling. I only really started doing them sitting up because I seem to have hit a stall and thought maybe laying down was the reason - like maybe I wasn't connecting with everything properly - but so far there really hasn't been much difference - no growth, maybe even less then what I had measured previously...........who knows. I started applying more pressure as Joseph suggested, but now I am finding myself bruising again - I seem to bruise very easily so I think I am just going to "bruise" myself for the week and see if I can get growth.......otherwise I don't know if I can say for sure that this IS the process for me.
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 9 2007, 3:11 PM
I'm thinking if this method may be better to be done with herbs. Going of herbs is a change, so a 'shock' for the body, and that usually kills or hinders breast growth. Althoguh in some rarer cases the change of going off herbs (or BCP) can actually make some women grow. I will continue doing this with herbs, but I was thinking of going on BCP again in my next cycle, but not sure...
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 9 2007, 6:44 PM
Hey moon - I was in a rush this morning - so kinda cheated on my massage - low and behold this afternoon I am getting pains again AND I can feel some lobes in the areas that were quite empty before!!!! My cheat method was kinda along the lines of the knuckles, I used just about the whole fingers and pushed on the entire area at one shot, so instead of going around at one mark, and then the next and then the next (for those that have that much space!!!), I just got them all at one shot...............I really didn't think I did a great job, but feeling those lobes in that one area that I couldn't manage to get anything this entire time, to suddenly appear in a few hours tells me that I might need to try a different tactic. I also put as much pressure as I could get from my fingers - which is alot more then just ones finger tips - so I am going to try this the next few days and see if I can get that tape measure moving. I am also trying to fill out the top part of one of my boobs - it sits slightly lower............I also still have some saggy skin that needs filling - wondering if I am stretching skin as I massage - going to start the lotion back up to try and help combat this..........
Another question for anyone really - How do your nips look? Mine always look relaxed now, and I'm not sure if I like it - they just look.........big........don't know how to explain it.
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Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) having a hard time May 11 2007, 12:38 AM
keeping up with this. with 5 kids running around...it is hard to put in the time to massage!!! argh. so ive been fluctuating...got some growth then lost it...back and forth...I'm thinking I just can't maintenance this.
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gingerD
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 11 2007, 11:28 AM
hi henri-Just from the info i read on GY, im sure are aware any way, but be carful you dont aply to much presure, it said on the vid u want to stimulate the lobes not "pop" them, just saying b carful u dont press on too hard,
B safe GD
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER WARNING _ LONG POST May 11 2007, 11:49 AM
Hey Ginger- yeah I know about the whole pressure thing - to be honest, it doesn't even hurt when I massage - but for some reason my skin is bruised - really weird, but I have very fair skin, likened to Snow White before, so thats probably it. I am beginning to think this process might not be "it" for me. My boobs are so sore each day, even before the deeper massages, and it hurts to hold my children, it hurts to have them.......played with, they just hurt period. There is like this really deep deep pressure in them, and I know for sure this isn't anything like breastfeeding and milk coming in, its almost like a deeper growing pain I had experienced before, who knows. The upside is I think they might have grown, or at the very least gotten fuller, but don't really think at this point I will measure. One thing of many I don't like about GY is how often you measure yourself - I really think that in itself is discouraging - but in order to keep to ones agreement you kinda have too - I have a few days left until I hit the 30 day mark, and then I think i am done. The odd thing is I read how so many women keep progressing levels, but I can't get past level 1 - even Joseph says that I haven't gained enough to move on - so to me its like how much do you have to grow. I am still curious about the other levels and the maintenance one, but I just don't really care right now. TO top that off, my husband noticed that I have lost some weight, I thought I had, but figured it was just me, but he mentioned it out of the blue yesterday and when I asked him what he meant he pointed out the my jeans were alot baggier then normal.........I am not even trying, but I just drop pounds for some reason - its like my body won't let me get past a certain weight - even while pregnant I was monitored because my body wouldn't put on the necessary weight.
More and more I am thinking that NBE itself might not be for me, and Madison is right. I think I am just going to accept myself as an almost full A/small B and leave well and nough alone. I am tired of it all. Tired of feeling frustrated at there lack of growing. Tired of trying methods and popping pills with nothing - I so sympathize with the lady on the main page who has swelling each month and then loses it, because that was what I was doing. And I was told the same thing they are telling her, but after months and months, they were still doing the same thing - so half the month I wear an A the other half I wear a B. I really think that part of the reason men might be turned off by small boobs, is not the boobs themselves, but the attitude of the wearer about them. My husband says he loves my boobs the way they are, but gets disgusted because my attitude about them is so poor. Yes, I can still see him looking at bigger ones, yes there is still that nagging feeling in the back of my head about last years issue, yes I don't really feel sexy, BUT they served there purpose and produced enough milk to feed my babies, and yes they looked used, well used to now they don't thanks NBE!, but you know what at this point I am a mom first before anything else - yes I wanted to be super sexy mom, but I guess I'll just have to flaunt my flat stomach over big tits!!
My plan right now is to finish up everything I have - modify the grow yours program and keep at the massages, just not as intense and as often, and work moreso on changing my overall opinion of myself. yes I probably haven't given single herbs enough time, and there is still the option of BO and PM, but I really feel those aren't for me, and I don't feel like being emotionally crazy again while adjusting herb levels - so I will stick out what I have been taking for another month or so, I think thats what I have left and then I am off the NBE journey............NOTE TO READER: this will all change if I see growth, because then I will become a crazy psycho boob growing addict again.
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annie2
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 11 2007, 5:41 PM
I have the same plan as u Henri,.... to finish up all the herbs i have and to modify the grow yours massage. I feel like giving up sometimes as well. I just say to myself i can't have it all. I have a nice butt and flat tummy nice figure and that was what drawn my Fiance to me. he says he love me just the way i am ,and he don't like me taking all these pills and whatnot. I didn't tell him about the grow yours either. he just sees me massaging sometimes,and when i'm in bathroom for almosst a hour he knows i'm massaging . he don't know the entire detali of me massaging.
hang in there gurl, we are all in this together
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 12 2007, 6:05 PM
I envy you girls!! I wish I could accept myself, but I just can't. You girls have a lot, mind you, you have boobs! If mine were A or even B, I'd be over the roof and wouldn't be doing all this NBE madness. But I don't even have an A. And no fiancee either. Oh well. I said I'll give GY 2 months so that's what I'll do. I can't give up, eventhgouh I'm frustrated as hell. I've been thinking that I have to accept myself too, but it's just a lot harder if you have no boobs, that if you have some like A or B already.
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lindyrose
(Login lindyrose) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 14 2007, 8:01 PM
To Henri ---
LOL you just made my day. Thanks!!! I shrunk after 10days on GY. The only good side effect was it made my sex drive go up so my husband is begging me to not stop the massages but I started to get really bad cramps (hand and uterine) & bruising. I'm sticking to BO... but that can be just as frusrating.
Good luck to you and to all!!!!
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER THIS IS ME ON MY HEAD MEDICINE!!!! May 14 2007, 8:48 PM
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Julie
(no login) Can hubby help with the massage? May 14 2007, 10:19 PM
I've read many of the posts about this GY method, but haven't seen this question asked:
Can your husband help with the massaging on this program, or must it be all done by myself? I don't know if I can do 80 minutes of massage per day, but my work-at-home husband might be willing to help.
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Lost Sheep
(Login Corrie73) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 15 2007, 1:04 AM
I am having a heck of a time keeping up with the massaging required for GY! I believe it works, but damn, I don't have an extra hour in the day for this! Wish I did though. I'll keep trying to squeeze the massages in when I can, but to be honest, its been like 3 days since I've done even one!
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Lost Sheep
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 15 2007, 2:53 AM
I haven't been massaging like when i frist started. i've missed 2 days now and also i hate doing the exercise becoz my hans hurts. I'm gonna try and atleast get one massage in for the day though. My boobs are feeling heavy and it's uncomfortable to sleep on my tummy.
Sara, gas is a terrible thing. I was about to go the doctor,but the pains have gone. It's an awful feeling. Hope all is well with u. Take Care.
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Alexia
(Login Alexia1981) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 15 2007, 7:30 AM
Day 18 now and I still havent grown, an initial 1 cm in the first week but thereafter nothing! Ordered fennel and fenugreek to add to the massages, hope that works
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Lisa
(Login lilmama40) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 15 2007, 7:47 PM
Ok, I found you guys now! It's been crazy hectic for me lately but I'm still doing my GY program and growing. I love it! I will hopefully soon have a chance to catch up on everyone's progress and any new issues that have come up. I'm still happy with the program and happy with my results.
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annieboobs
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 15 2007, 8:01 PM
ok so today my period came, Iv'e gone up one more inches. so i'm at 35", i know it's becoz of my period coz i always get some swelling when period is coming. Just hope it will stay.
today i was braless and my fiance says my boobs looks big, and ask me if i had a bra on. no bra on so i guess it's working will be adding some herbs today along with collagen , will letu know what i decide to do. So far so good. Also i'm not obessed with my boobs as i was frist time.
Well as for the period i didn't get any cramps to warm me it was coming ,like it normally did. After i went to the bathroom this morning to my surprise ther is miss AF. LOl. Just having a few cramps now but nothing major.
Happy Growing.
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Black Sheep
(Login pinkpurple) grow yours May 16 2007, 5:41 PM
Hi Girls,
I've been doing the Grow yours programme for 2 weeks now and have gained about half an inch at nipples, 1.5 inches above and 3 inches above. I'm still on the first stage of massage and being told I'm not massaging hard enough - any harder and I think my ribs would break!!! Possibly on the first stage still though as a few of my initial measuring days were ( I asume) wrong as looking back at them they are bigger than now - though I can feel I have grown so obviously measured too generously at the beginning. I'm putting in about one and a half hours massaging a day at least. Have any of you moved on from the first stage of massaging? Also how long on average do you stay on this stage for?
Thanks
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 17 2007, 6:28 PM
The program tells me that I'm not massaging hard enough as I've been on the first stage for a while. Then it tells me I'm massaging too hard cause I've got bruising. *roll eyes*
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 17 2007, 8:22 PM
Moon are you reading my program!?! Seems we have the same problem, because I am being told the same thing. Plus it says I am entering conflicting information, as my measurements clearly show I have not grown, but I report the lobes - I don't think the program itself knows what to do.
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spunkymum
(no login) GY level 3 May 18 2007, 12:24 AM
Hi just wondering if anyone on level 3 would let me email them direct & tell me what massage is involved in that, I have been stuck on level 2 for 2 weeks & getting a little frustrated, just wondering if individuals should be moved up a level at small growth levels just as we all respond differently to herbs.
Can anyone help me?
many thanks.
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pinkpurple
(Login pinkpurple) re:grow yours May 18 2007, 7:53 AM
I agree that the program doesn't know what to do. Surprised it hasn't told me I've entered conflicting info as one day I put 21.5 instead of 31.5! Also my measurements went down and are gradually creeping up again to what I started with. I think I possibly was too generous with the tape measure as I don't feel as though I have shrunk - and sincerely hope not!!! Has any one moved on from the first stage? The lobes are not appearing as quickly as they say they should and the growth isn't happening as fast either.
I'm doing more massage most days than the time specified - so surely I should have more growth?
I do wonger if some of the growth 'dissapears' soon after measuring - if like me you measure immediately after massaging. Also my boobs are becoming quite dry and I'm haing to add lotion to soften them back up. Sometimes I wonder if all this massage will disolve away the fat we have stroed there and just leave us with lobe swell as growth - if we stop massaging we could become saggier than before?
I'd ideally love to fill out the stretch marks I have had from the past which are now little wrinkle like things at the top of my boobs. This is where they have lost fat over the years and thorugh losing weight. I massage my smaller boob much more than the larger one but the lobes feel the same in both. Really hurt too when I massage as I'm using quite a bit of pressure - but being told to massage harder as I'm not using enough! The computer just seems to feed us basic lines. Surely there are not that many of us on this program that a person could look at our statistics every once in a while and tell us what we are doing right/wrong.
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P H
(Login Babyboob) Does it really work? May 18 2007, 8:31 AM
I started GY on 30 April, so it's almost 3 weeks now. The skin of my boobs was so itchy for the first few days I started the program and the boobs were so sore and little pain as well. I don't feel the soreness and pain now, maybe I don't do it hard enough but my hands are so tired already after massaging for 15 mins! After almost 3 weeks, I really don't know if I have any growth. When I started, it was 32, and then sometimes it was 32.25, sometimes 32.5 and then the following day goes down to 32. I wonder if I measure it correctly 'cos the growth and shrinkage should not happen within such a short period of time. But I did feel the fullness at the beginning of the program. It's really frustrating especially seeing other girls having so good progress :-(. (I wonder how Beth can gain 2.5" growth within such a short time.) I am considering quitting it and following Fengshui's program, as I am not brave enough to take so many herbs that might have potential side effects. Sad!
PH
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 18 2007, 11:46 AM
SpunkyMom - I would love to know what Level 2 is. I am stuck at level 1 and have been for almost a month!!! I am either at or very close to my 30day mark and can't say for sure that my boobs have grown, as depending on the time of day they either measure higher or the same :-( The initial 1 inch I had seemed to decide it wanted to leave.
But my thoughts were this: if we aren't getting past level 1 then are we actually massaging out what we are gaining? Because that is the way I feel. I was growing really well even hit 33.75, but the program wouldn't move me on, and neither would Joseph, I never got a reply to that e-mail but he would reply to others..........so I was wondering did I get to the point that I needed to move on, but because I didn't it undid everything? anyway if you could, could you give me rough instructions on level 2? my e-mail was posted in the one of the other threads, but here it is again:
; Sorry I obviously don't have level 3, in fact I am not sure if anyone has gotten that far.........maybe Beth.
PinkPurple - I measure higher BEFORE I massage, and smaller after I massage. I usually try to apply some lotion, usually my leftover breast cream to my boobs after massaging, as they get irritated from all the movement.
P.H I feel your frustration; I really think Beth got the best results, because she very recently finished breast feeding or having a baby or both, can't remember, but I know she has posted it a couple of times.
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Beth
(Login emorgan7719) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 18 2007, 1:08 PM
Hey girls! Did I hear my name? LOL I did gain inches very quickly, but come to think of it, practicly everyone else that started the same time as me did as well. I know Lisa grew quite a bit right after she had started as well. As for me, yes, I did finish breastfeeding my daughter about 5 months before starting the program. I also slept on a heating pad on low over night. I do not know if that helped at all, but I thought I would tell you about it anyways. I have since stopped grow yours. I have actually been off the program about 2 weeks now. GY gave me every preggo symptom in the book with the exception of the buldging belly. I had my tubes tied and have no desire to experience that again. It just messed my hormones up really bad and it started to affect my relationships. I am NOT saying that this happens to everyone, but that is what happened to me. However, I appear to have kept 1.5" of the 2.5" I originally gained. I just hope that I do not lose that as well. I guess I need to start over again on my NBE journey. I will keep you guys updated.
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pinkpurple
(Login pinkpurple) re: Grow yours May 18 2007, 2:15 PM
Hi Henri - Today I had no instructions!! Does that mean I can have a break?!
Actually tonight I am not massaging as my boobies hurt too much. This will be the first massage I have missed but really feel I need a break as they feel so bruised.I know I am massaging hard enough just don't seem to be getting anywhere fast - yet being told I need to massage more firmly! I have never breat fedand had my last child nearly 14 years ago so possibly that is a reason my growth is slow. I do admit they seem to be firmimg up and possibly growing ( or is it my imagination?) I think the tops have filled out a bit.
I do take herbs as well ( see my program) and will stick woth GROW YOURS for a while longer as I feel there is some benefit to it - though I think you need to take a break once in a while ( only one or two massages though) as your boobies do get really sore and the skin a bit rubbery.
I find my bigger boob is much firmer than the other - my left and I am left handed. My smaller right boob is quite slack with none of the rimness behind it. I do work out with weights regularly so though that would have firmed it up.
Sad thing with NBE is that you become so much more critlcal of your boobs
BUT at least we are doing things to make them bigger and that's what counts isn't it girls ?
I know mine have filled out quite a bot and grown since I started NBE over a year ago. I've taken pills daily, done the massages and am determined to get as much growth as I possibly can. Still a 32B (large 32B now rather than tiny) but have a good cleavage, and with a gel bra look great!
POSITIVE THINKING GIRLS!!!!
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Lisa
(Login lilmama40) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 18 2007, 6:40 PM
Hi all! Ok, my life has been a little crazy lately with having to go out of town for a funeral and getting prepared to start a new job. I'm still very happy with GY. I'm on an herbal break of course, and had gotten to 37 inches on herbs which was an inch and a half of growth. When I started GY I fairly quickly grew to 38 1/2. I haven't passed that mark yet, but it's my own fault because some days I can't get in 2 massages and can only do 1, or I don't have time to do the full length of time I'm supposed to. My boobs always adjust to what's going on though. The more I do the 2 full length massages the fuller they get and the more sore they are as the lobes get larger. If I have a few days where I don't do the full program, my boobs back off a little bit if that makes sense. It's sortof the same principle as supply and demand when you're feeding a baby, the boobs adjust to the demands that are made on them. But then once I get back into the full program within a few days they're right back to where they are supposed to be. I have not leaked or expressed any fluid. If I can stay on course better I believe I will have further growth. I am happy with things the way they are, since I'm able to take an herb break and still retain all of my growth and since GY is adjusting daily for me depending on how much time I have to do it. I haven't experienced any "other" symptoms at all. Periods are normal, weight hasn't changed, and I feel exactly the same as I did before starting GY. It may not be for everybody, but for those who it's working for and who are happy with it I think it's fantastic! :-)
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Sheep
(no login) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 21 2007, 6:03 AM
Have ANY of those girls who have never been pregnant grown at all on the GY program?
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Alexia
(Login Alexia1981) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 21 2007, 7:21 AM
A little bit but can't get past level one!
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 21 2007, 6:15 PM
My measurment has gone up a bit but it's before my period so deffinitely lutheal swelling, however I never had much lutheal swelling before. Otherwise I've slacked off with my massage lately cause I've been busy, ill and haven't slept well. I feel that I'm the kind of person who loses lobe size fast. But I will get back on track soon.
I have one question - what exactly is necessary to move past level 1? I'm starting to think that the program might not ever let me cause of the initial wrong measurments I put in...
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Anniegirl16
(Login anniegirl16) Week two May 21 2007, 9:23 PM
I finally moved onto week 2 because I have gain 1/2 an inch...it has taken me about 20 days to get there since I'm not the best about doing the massages everyday...but i never seem to lose the growth and i always seem sore.
maybe if you e-mail joseph, you could change your beginning messurements...or just make a new account with the right ones.
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Loreli
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 22 2007, 1:35 PM
Just wondering if anyone could email me whats involved in Level 2? (danikinz@gmail.com)
I think i have entered stats wrong, as it tells me i have gained over 1 inch and am ready to move onto level 3! I haven't even seen Level 2 video yet, have just been following level 1 for the past 20 days.
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Anniegirl16
(Login anniegirl16) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 22 2007, 5:08 PM
not sure if we are suppse to tell people are we but i guess if we are all in this together...level 2- 10 min. begging exercise 10 min kneading exercise and 2 min nipple. twice a day on both breasts.
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 26 2007, 7:31 PM
Well I've ''grown'' an inch while on GY, but it's right before my period so I'll probably lose it when it comes. I have no idea how much I swelled up before, cause I never measured. The one inch difference maybe shows slighly on the eye, but not significently.
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Loreli
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 27 2007, 11:27 AM
Thanks Annie.
So what's the difference between Level 1 and Level 2? Aren't they exactly the same exercises? I'm confused... I thought the levels were different exercises
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 27 2007, 11:47 AM
The technique is the same, but the times changed - increase in one, decrease in the other.
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annie2
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 28 2007, 4:30 PM
no ur'e not missing anything in Level 2 it's all the same massage techniques. just as what henri sayss just time changes.
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WiccanWoman
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 29 2007, 12:32 PM
A note about level 2 girls.
If you miss days entering your nfo you will not reach the next level so make sure your measurement charts are current.
ALSO..
Joseph told me lvl 2 should be done one breast in the am and one at night, this might be the better way of doing lvl 2, and YES there is a different exercise included in it so make sure your not missing waching any videos, its not just ramping up time.
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skyley
(Login skyley) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. June 1 2007, 8:54 PM
Hello everyone I just started GY today and just did my first massage. I delivered twins 8 months ago so hopfully that will help me out a little.
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Black Sheep
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. June 13 2007, 3:45 AM
I am on fourth week just hit level 3! I have gained 1.5 to 2 inches. Not gaining evenly at each point though. at nipple 1 3/4, at 1.5 gained 2, at 3 gained 1.5. Is that normal? I stopped taking herbs but am still growing with GY. It is really hot here lately so I wonder if the weather might have helped bump my growth up a bit more. I also gained 3 pounds after I started adding protein shakes I am debating about whether or not to go back on fenugreek while doing GY and also just ordered SP and WY so they will be arriving soon. What do you ladies think?
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mo
(Login dragonfly180) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. June 27 2007, 1:20 PM
i have been on gy why almost four weeks now and im happy with what i see so far..most pils and stuff you dont see the change for along time..i feel much fuller and i look a bit fuller too..you can see my pics on the BE board because im not sure about putting them on eves..anyone can see them and they dont have to loggin..i dont feel safe with that.i dont get milk when i massage but i do know that i leak throughout the day because my bra ends up wt and i can see milk rings in my bra..i dont know if thats normal but i think its a little strange..i dont want to be leaking to the point i have to where nursing pads..i wish all of you the best of luck possible and have a good one ladys..
xxxxto all
mo
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Wendy
(Login GrowWendy) Mo, good progress June 27 2007, 5:40 PM
I just looked on BBoard and there is growth! Congrats.
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silv
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. July 1 2007, 5:12 AM
hi everybody! i'm new to this forum. i'm very happy to see a lot of you have good results with GY program. i hope you girls can give me some help on the GY program. i have been on GY for 11 days already and have gain maybe 1 CM so far and still on level one. Is that normal? the system is telling me that i'm not putting enough pressure when i massage but i'm sure i did because my breasts were sore. My nipples are bigger, redder, and harder. I started out with no lobes to about 11 lumps or lobes now and some of them are the size of chick peas or small grapes and some are like apple seeds. i'm just confused that if i didn't put enough pressure why would the lobes grow bigger and increased in #s?? Everything grew very fast except my breasts size. Did anybody have the same problem that i have?
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. July 1 2007, 9:31 PM
The process told me I wasn't applying enoguh pressure cause of lack of sucess, while in the next sentence saying I was pressing to hard cause of bruising. Don't take it for perfect.
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silv
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. July 2 2007, 5:28 PM
It bugs me a little that i'm still on level 1 after two weeks and with the rate i'm growing, i think i'll be on level 1 for a very very long time. Maybe i'll never be able to go on to the next level but i won't give up. I think maybe because i'm too skinny to begin with. i understand is hard to just grow breasts so i'll keep doing the massages until winter time.
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kieyah
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. July 2 2007, 10:43 PM
I wouldn't be worried. I was on level 1 for twice as long as you, then level 2 for only a few days then jumped to level 3 where I still am now. There isn't much difference from each level except mostly timing so don't dispare. I wouldn't do it any harder if you are bruising. Try massaging for longer instead and really concentrate on the lobes that you already have spend twice as long on them and then move on to the next. That's what I was doing when I suddenly jumped to level 3. Hope that helps. Good luck to you
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Brenda2
(no login) areola change July 28 2007, 5:57 AM
I've been doing GY for 3 1/2 weeks and have grown more than an inch. My lobes are still on the small side but today when I looked in the mirror I was shocked to see the areola change. It has nearly doubled in size. I have never had kids and have rather small areolas until today. I have been reading through many of the posts and haven't seen any areola comments.
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Wendy
(Login GrowWendy) Congrats July 28 2007, 4:46 PM
Glad it is working. The changes you are seeing are normal. If you never have had kids then your breasts are developing fully (tricking it into thinking you have a child to feed) which includes changes to the areola. I read they may also darken. I think mine are a shade or 2 darker and slightly larger. Over an inch growth is fantastic!
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Laduline
(Login Ladulin) Question for Brenda2 July 29 2007, 8:55 PM
Hello, congrats and I have a question
What has been your progress until today?
I admire your GY because I tried it only for six days, I felt great but when my breasts started to change a little I got scared and I stopped. Could you describe your changes for me?
Ive never breastfed I plan to have children in the future.
May 2 2007 at 9:50 PM annieboobs (Login annieboobs)
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Gurls lets continue here, instead of the main page...
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Luvgrl
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 2 2007, 9:52 PM
Just saw this, I wanted to ask Beth how many cup sizes her 2.5" gained her?
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katherine
(Login BObabe) Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 2 2007, 10:55 PM
I'm going nuts, here! I chatted with Joseph this morning and have also begun this new adventure, however, after doing all of the initial stats, the instruction video for technique and week 1 instructions won't show up on my computer.......AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Nothing like getting the green light and not being able to access the information!!!!!!
katheine
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Black Sheep
(no login) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 3 2007, 12:25 AM
that happened to me too !!!!!
I still only have part of the first 2 instructions loaded and I have to guesws the rest but the 3rd andf 4 th came through !
weird eh ? Jessica_
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annieboobs
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 3 2007, 5:19 AM
Wow beth, ur now a small C that's awesome. Hopefully i can gain another cup as u. Good Job.
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Kitty
(Login Kittyluv09) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 2:41 AM
I've been on GYs for 7 days and i shrunk half an inch from my normal size.
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Alexia
(Login Alexia1981) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 8:37 AM
Grew 1 cm (0.4 inch) one inch above nipple and 3 inches above nipple! No increase around nipples or from collar one to nipple yet
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Black Sheep
(Login carlymoo) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 6:56 PM
Hi, everyone, am new to this forum and just wanted to introduce myself. I started GY 6 days ago, have had no growth as of yet. I have 3 children, youngest is 13 months old and i stopped breastfeeding 6 months ago, so i'm hoping for some growth soon. Anyhow just wanted to say hi and good luck with your growing ;-)
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fengshui
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 7:21 PM
I haven't done much massage these days cause my period is late (not common for me), so these few days I basicly only do some kneading massage, and I have some cloudy-gluey liquid coming out, I am a little concerned....is it a good sign? I don't really have growth yet, but def. fuller.
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 8:53 PM
Fengshui, you have liquid that soon?? I think it could be that GY is working, but we differ in how much we lactate on GY and that you would lactate a bit more or sooner. I'd email Joseph for some input.
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 8:57 PM
More questions!!!
Does everyone else feel their lobes really hard? When mine were small, they were like flat and soft and it felt kindof good to massage them, but today I noticed that the bigger ones got really hard and it's almost uncomfortable to press them.
I also wonder, if we grow lobes, the breasts don't get the kind of bumpy relief, do they? Could that mean that fat also gets deposited?
I can feel my lobes got bigger, but my breasts are the same size as before, is that normal?
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Black Sheep
(no login) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 5 2007, 10:13 PM
fengshui - its sounds like colestruem, the pre-milk stuff. When i was pregnant with my second, I started leaking that stuff around 7months. Only reason I new is that my bras were crusted to my nips. Once I actually started nursing though it took almost three full days before my milk actually came in, so I don't know what to tell you. I know if I get that, then I will probably stop.
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 6 2007, 7:07 PM
Is anyone else having a hard time counting lobes?? I find many, but I can't for the life of me count them, they're slippery and well hidden and sometimes I don't know if I'm feeling one big or two small that are very close together and I dunno which one I've counted already and which one not, it's damn impossible!!
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fengshui
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SENIOR MEMBER is that something I should worry about? May 6 2007, 10:38 PM
Hi, moon,black sheep, thanks for the input, I don't have any kids and have never breastfeed, I am still waiting for my period (not pregnant for sure). Since my period has been a week late(I have no idea if it has any thing with GY 'cause I just started Apr. 27), I only did some kneading massage and my old knuckle massage past few days, and I still get tiny drops of liquid come out, has anybody else experienced this?
should i be worried about this?
One more question, I had never felt any lobes from my previous growth(food+knuckle massage), now I might be feeling some seeds-size "thingy", as for GY method the lobes should get big, then how do we know it's not tumor when we do self-breasts-exam??? very confused here. :-(???
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Sara
(Login Sarabell239) counting lobes May 7 2007, 2:28 AM
i'm with you that moon! i try, but i really just end up making it up when updating. Much too difficult to get something exact-and also quite frustrating!
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MFP
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SENIOR MEMBER I hear ya, Moon May 7 2007, 4:38 AM
It is frustrating when you feel the lobes growing but not seeing or feeling the results. I've been on the prgram for 3 weeks now, I guess. But I stopped massaging last week. I was just feeling hopeless.
I thought I will try to gain back the few pounds that I lost then start all over again. I don't know if that make sense. lol
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fengshui
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SENIOR MEMBER to whom on GY with breastfeed experience May 7 2007, 12:26 PM
I hope this question is not too weird.
When you were breastfeeding, could you feel the lobes (should be grape size according to GY?)? and I hope this is okay to ask (sorry, I am a little shy) did your partners(or you) think your breasts feel different (except being a lot bigger)? cause some reports say that women's partners found the tumors on them when....you know....so I wonder if I do the GY and my lobes got grape-size big, will my breasts feel like squeshy balls with grapes in them?????
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Snowflake
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EVE MEMBERS Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 7 2007, 1:45 PM
Is anyone using a heating pad after massages? Also am very interested in hearing measurements of growth. Started massaging this weekend. My understanding is to massage every area of breast to manipulate lobes to grow. Breasts are very sore this morning, 4 massages behind me.
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 7 2007, 4:25 PM
To everyone who already greow some on GY - did you notice the difference in size together with lobes getting bigger, or later or sooner??? I feel my lobes growing, but boobs are the same...
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Sun
(Login ThaliaSun) Counting lobes... May 7 2007, 7:04 PM
Counting lobes became a futile attempt for me after about day four. There are too many in varying sizes and it's crazy-making to try to figure out if I'd already counted that one, or whatever.
So I just estimate. :-)
Yep, I'm a rule breaker.
~Sun
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 7 2007, 7:23 PM
Moon - I have the same problem :-( Bigger lobes, firmer same size boobs. I also posted that I feel barely any lobes on my right boob and I keep massaging and massaging but they don't seem to be appearing - just keep hitting my ribs.
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annieboobs
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SENIOR MEMBER Fustrating Indeed May 7 2007, 10:49 PM
me too ,i can't count the lobes, i get really fustrated. Today is day 18 and i haven't passed the 1inch . Also my hands get so tire di don't feel like massaging , neeed some motivation here ):.
Henri I have the same problem my right boobs which is my smaller one ,i can't feel the lobes, I massaged it more than my left one to see if i can get some lobes but , just not happening. my left one is so much fuller and feels like a bean bag.... So ur'e not alone on that one.
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 8 2007, 11:40 AM
Annie that is so funny that you said "bean bag" to describe your left boob because that is exactly what I was thinking it felt like!!!!
Cute and Moon - are you guys using your knuckles or your fingers? I know someone was using there knuckles to do the massages and I figured out why it isn't recommended. You won't feel anything to specifically target if you are using just your knuckles, whereas your fingers will pick up any slightest change in size - or something other then your ribs being there :-).
Oh I also found that if I lay on my back and do the massages I can feel the slightest bit of something on the bottom half of my right boob - sometimes it feels like it just a blood vessel, but I can't tell for sure - might give it a try - the only thing is, you have to be very careful as your breast shifts when your on your back and you wouldn't be targeting the same areas as you would sitting up so you need to readjust how you massage (this could be my problem).
Cute hang in there - I am kinda low right now too, especially reading how some half done and cleared the 1 inch mark and I can't get past it, so I know you have to be feeling frustrated right now. Try re-watching the video and see if that helps, I realized that I had been doing something wrong and after watching it I was able to correct it.
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Moon
(no login) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 8 2007, 8:22 PM
Henri, I think it's possible to have less lobes in one boob than the other, or in one place. I have a spot that is lobe-less right under the third rib. I guess I won't be able to grow there, that sucks.
But anyway keep massaging. I only used knucles when I wasn't feeling lobes yet, cause it gives more physical stimulation, but it less precise. But since I feel the lobes I use knuckles.
BTW, I find it a lot easier to massage when laying down, arms don't get as tired. Actually I've found great time to squeeze in some massage is in bed at night before sleeping and in the morning
before getting up, lol.
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 9 2007, 2:10 PM
Hey Moon- I know what you mean about laying down. Thats how I was getting mine in - falling asleep, watching a movie, reading a book - its actually kinda mindless know since I already know what I am looking for and feeling. I only really started doing them sitting up because I seem to have hit a stall and thought maybe laying down was the reason - like maybe I wasn't connecting with everything properly - but so far there really hasn't been much difference - no growth, maybe even less then what I had measured previously...........who knows. I started applying more pressure as Joseph suggested, but now I am finding myself bruising again - I seem to bruise very easily so I think I am just going to "bruise" myself for the week and see if I can get growth.......otherwise I don't know if I can say for sure that this IS the process for me.
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 9 2007, 3:11 PM
I'm thinking if this method may be better to be done with herbs. Going of herbs is a change, so a 'shock' for the body, and that usually kills or hinders breast growth. Althoguh in some rarer cases the change of going off herbs (or BCP) can actually make some women grow. I will continue doing this with herbs, but I was thinking of going on BCP again in my next cycle, but not sure...
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 9 2007, 6:44 PM
Hey moon - I was in a rush this morning - so kinda cheated on my massage - low and behold this afternoon I am getting pains again AND I can feel some lobes in the areas that were quite empty before!!!! My cheat method was kinda along the lines of the knuckles, I used just about the whole fingers and pushed on the entire area at one shot, so instead of going around at one mark, and then the next and then the next (for those that have that much space!!!), I just got them all at one shot...............I really didn't think I did a great job, but feeling those lobes in that one area that I couldn't manage to get anything this entire time, to suddenly appear in a few hours tells me that I might need to try a different tactic. I also put as much pressure as I could get from my fingers - which is alot more then just ones finger tips - so I am going to try this the next few days and see if I can get that tape measure moving. I am also trying to fill out the top part of one of my boobs - it sits slightly lower............I also still have some saggy skin that needs filling - wondering if I am stretching skin as I massage - going to start the lotion back up to try and help combat this..........
Another question for anyone really - How do your nips look? Mine always look relaxed now, and I'm not sure if I like it - they just look.........big........don't know how to explain it.
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Myjourney
(Login Myjourney) having a hard time May 11 2007, 12:38 AM
keeping up with this. with 5 kids running around...it is hard to put in the time to massage!!! argh. so ive been fluctuating...got some growth then lost it...back and forth...I'm thinking I just can't maintenance this.
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gingerD
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 11 2007, 11:28 AM
hi henri-Just from the info i read on GY, im sure are aware any way, but be carful you dont aply to much presure, it said on the vid u want to stimulate the lobes not "pop" them, just saying b carful u dont press on too hard,
B safe GD
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER WARNING _ LONG POST May 11 2007, 11:49 AM
Hey Ginger- yeah I know about the whole pressure thing - to be honest, it doesn't even hurt when I massage - but for some reason my skin is bruised - really weird, but I have very fair skin, likened to Snow White before, so thats probably it. I am beginning to think this process might not be "it" for me. My boobs are so sore each day, even before the deeper massages, and it hurts to hold my children, it hurts to have them.......played with, they just hurt period. There is like this really deep deep pressure in them, and I know for sure this isn't anything like breastfeeding and milk coming in, its almost like a deeper growing pain I had experienced before, who knows. The upside is I think they might have grown, or at the very least gotten fuller, but don't really think at this point I will measure. One thing of many I don't like about GY is how often you measure yourself - I really think that in itself is discouraging - but in order to keep to ones agreement you kinda have too - I have a few days left until I hit the 30 day mark, and then I think i am done. The odd thing is I read how so many women keep progressing levels, but I can't get past level 1 - even Joseph says that I haven't gained enough to move on - so to me its like how much do you have to grow. I am still curious about the other levels and the maintenance one, but I just don't really care right now. TO top that off, my husband noticed that I have lost some weight, I thought I had, but figured it was just me, but he mentioned it out of the blue yesterday and when I asked him what he meant he pointed out the my jeans were alot baggier then normal.........I am not even trying, but I just drop pounds for some reason - its like my body won't let me get past a certain weight - even while pregnant I was monitored because my body wouldn't put on the necessary weight.
More and more I am thinking that NBE itself might not be for me, and Madison is right. I think I am just going to accept myself as an almost full A/small B and leave well and nough alone. I am tired of it all. Tired of feeling frustrated at there lack of growing. Tired of trying methods and popping pills with nothing - I so sympathize with the lady on the main page who has swelling each month and then loses it, because that was what I was doing. And I was told the same thing they are telling her, but after months and months, they were still doing the same thing - so half the month I wear an A the other half I wear a B. I really think that part of the reason men might be turned off by small boobs, is not the boobs themselves, but the attitude of the wearer about them. My husband says he loves my boobs the way they are, but gets disgusted because my attitude about them is so poor. Yes, I can still see him looking at bigger ones, yes there is still that nagging feeling in the back of my head about last years issue, yes I don't really feel sexy, BUT they served there purpose and produced enough milk to feed my babies, and yes they looked used, well used to now they don't thanks NBE!, but you know what at this point I am a mom first before anything else - yes I wanted to be super sexy mom, but I guess I'll just have to flaunt my flat stomach over big tits!!
My plan right now is to finish up everything I have - modify the grow yours program and keep at the massages, just not as intense and as often, and work moreso on changing my overall opinion of myself. yes I probably haven't given single herbs enough time, and there is still the option of BO and PM, but I really feel those aren't for me, and I don't feel like being emotionally crazy again while adjusting herb levels - so I will stick out what I have been taking for another month or so, I think thats what I have left and then I am off the NBE journey............NOTE TO READER: this will all change if I see growth, because then I will become a crazy psycho boob growing addict again.
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annie2
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 11 2007, 5:41 PM
I have the same plan as u Henri,.... to finish up all the herbs i have and to modify the grow yours massage. I feel like giving up sometimes as well. I just say to myself i can't have it all. I have a nice butt and flat tummy nice figure and that was what drawn my Fiance to me. he says he love me just the way i am ,and he don't like me taking all these pills and whatnot. I didn't tell him about the grow yours either. he just sees me massaging sometimes,and when i'm in bathroom for almosst a hour he knows i'm massaging . he don't know the entire detali of me massaging.
hang in there gurl, we are all in this together
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 12 2007, 6:05 PM
I envy you girls!! I wish I could accept myself, but I just can't. You girls have a lot, mind you, you have boobs! If mine were A or even B, I'd be over the roof and wouldn't be doing all this NBE madness. But I don't even have an A. And no fiancee either. Oh well. I said I'll give GY 2 months so that's what I'll do. I can't give up, eventhgouh I'm frustrated as hell. I've been thinking that I have to accept myself too, but it's just a lot harder if you have no boobs, that if you have some like A or B already.
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lindyrose
(Login lindyrose) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 14 2007, 8:01 PM
To Henri ---
LOL you just made my day. Thanks!!! I shrunk after 10days on GY. The only good side effect was it made my sex drive go up so my husband is begging me to not stop the massages but I started to get really bad cramps (hand and uterine) & bruising. I'm sticking to BO... but that can be just as frusrating.
Good luck to you and to all!!!!
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER THIS IS ME ON MY HEAD MEDICINE!!!! May 14 2007, 8:48 PM
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Julie
(no login) Can hubby help with the massage? May 14 2007, 10:19 PM
I've read many of the posts about this GY method, but haven't seen this question asked:
Can your husband help with the massaging on this program, or must it be all done by myself? I don't know if I can do 80 minutes of massage per day, but my work-at-home husband might be willing to help.
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Lost Sheep
(Login Corrie73) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 15 2007, 1:04 AM
I am having a heck of a time keeping up with the massaging required for GY! I believe it works, but damn, I don't have an extra hour in the day for this! Wish I did though. I'll keep trying to squeeze the massages in when I can, but to be honest, its been like 3 days since I've done even one!
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Lost Sheep
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 15 2007, 2:53 AM
I haven't been massaging like when i frist started. i've missed 2 days now and also i hate doing the exercise becoz my hans hurts. I'm gonna try and atleast get one massage in for the day though. My boobs are feeling heavy and it's uncomfortable to sleep on my tummy.
Sara, gas is a terrible thing. I was about to go the doctor,but the pains have gone. It's an awful feeling. Hope all is well with u. Take Care.
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Alexia
(Login Alexia1981) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 15 2007, 7:30 AM
Day 18 now and I still havent grown, an initial 1 cm in the first week but thereafter nothing! Ordered fennel and fenugreek to add to the massages, hope that works
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Lisa
(Login lilmama40) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 15 2007, 7:47 PM
Ok, I found you guys now! It's been crazy hectic for me lately but I'm still doing my GY program and growing. I love it! I will hopefully soon have a chance to catch up on everyone's progress and any new issues that have come up. I'm still happy with the program and happy with my results.
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annieboobs
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 15 2007, 8:01 PM
ok so today my period came, Iv'e gone up one more inches. so i'm at 35", i know it's becoz of my period coz i always get some swelling when period is coming. Just hope it will stay.
today i was braless and my fiance says my boobs looks big, and ask me if i had a bra on. no bra on so i guess it's working will be adding some herbs today along with collagen , will letu know what i decide to do. So far so good. Also i'm not obessed with my boobs as i was frist time.
Well as for the period i didn't get any cramps to warm me it was coming ,like it normally did. After i went to the bathroom this morning to my surprise ther is miss AF. LOl. Just having a few cramps now but nothing major.
Happy Growing.
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Black Sheep
(Login pinkpurple) grow yours May 16 2007, 5:41 PM
Hi Girls,
I've been doing the Grow yours programme for 2 weeks now and have gained about half an inch at nipples, 1.5 inches above and 3 inches above. I'm still on the first stage of massage and being told I'm not massaging hard enough - any harder and I think my ribs would break!!! Possibly on the first stage still though as a few of my initial measuring days were ( I asume) wrong as looking back at them they are bigger than now - though I can feel I have grown so obviously measured too generously at the beginning. I'm putting in about one and a half hours massaging a day at least. Have any of you moved on from the first stage of massaging? Also how long on average do you stay on this stage for?
Thanks
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 17 2007, 6:28 PM
The program tells me that I'm not massaging hard enough as I've been on the first stage for a while. Then it tells me I'm massaging too hard cause I've got bruising. *roll eyes*
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 17 2007, 8:22 PM
Moon are you reading my program!?! Seems we have the same problem, because I am being told the same thing. Plus it says I am entering conflicting information, as my measurements clearly show I have not grown, but I report the lobes - I don't think the program itself knows what to do.
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spunkymum
(no login) GY level 3 May 18 2007, 12:24 AM
Hi just wondering if anyone on level 3 would let me email them direct & tell me what massage is involved in that, I have been stuck on level 2 for 2 weeks & getting a little frustrated, just wondering if individuals should be moved up a level at small growth levels just as we all respond differently to herbs.
Can anyone help me?
many thanks.
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pinkpurple
(Login pinkpurple) re:grow yours May 18 2007, 7:53 AM
I agree that the program doesn't know what to do. Surprised it hasn't told me I've entered conflicting info as one day I put 21.5 instead of 31.5! Also my measurements went down and are gradually creeping up again to what I started with. I think I possibly was too generous with the tape measure as I don't feel as though I have shrunk - and sincerely hope not!!! Has any one moved on from the first stage? The lobes are not appearing as quickly as they say they should and the growth isn't happening as fast either.
I'm doing more massage most days than the time specified - so surely I should have more growth?
I do wonger if some of the growth 'dissapears' soon after measuring - if like me you measure immediately after massaging. Also my boobs are becoming quite dry and I'm haing to add lotion to soften them back up. Sometimes I wonder if all this massage will disolve away the fat we have stroed there and just leave us with lobe swell as growth - if we stop massaging we could become saggier than before?
I'd ideally love to fill out the stretch marks I have had from the past which are now little wrinkle like things at the top of my boobs. This is where they have lost fat over the years and thorugh losing weight. I massage my smaller boob much more than the larger one but the lobes feel the same in both. Really hurt too when I massage as I'm using quite a bit of pressure - but being told to massage harder as I'm not using enough! The computer just seems to feed us basic lines. Surely there are not that many of us on this program that a person could look at our statistics every once in a while and tell us what we are doing right/wrong.
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P H
(Login Babyboob) Does it really work? May 18 2007, 8:31 AM
I started GY on 30 April, so it's almost 3 weeks now. The skin of my boobs was so itchy for the first few days I started the program and the boobs were so sore and little pain as well. I don't feel the soreness and pain now, maybe I don't do it hard enough but my hands are so tired already after massaging for 15 mins! After almost 3 weeks, I really don't know if I have any growth. When I started, it was 32, and then sometimes it was 32.25, sometimes 32.5 and then the following day goes down to 32. I wonder if I measure it correctly 'cos the growth and shrinkage should not happen within such a short period of time. But I did feel the fullness at the beginning of the program. It's really frustrating especially seeing other girls having so good progress :-(. (I wonder how Beth can gain 2.5" growth within such a short time.) I am considering quitting it and following Fengshui's program, as I am not brave enough to take so many herbs that might have potential side effects. Sad!
PH
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 18 2007, 11:46 AM
SpunkyMom - I would love to know what Level 2 is. I am stuck at level 1 and have been for almost a month!!! I am either at or very close to my 30day mark and can't say for sure that my boobs have grown, as depending on the time of day they either measure higher or the same :-( The initial 1 inch I had seemed to decide it wanted to leave.
But my thoughts were this: if we aren't getting past level 1 then are we actually massaging out what we are gaining? Because that is the way I feel. I was growing really well even hit 33.75, but the program wouldn't move me on, and neither would Joseph, I never got a reply to that e-mail but he would reply to others..........so I was wondering did I get to the point that I needed to move on, but because I didn't it undid everything? anyway if you could, could you give me rough instructions on level 2? my e-mail was posted in the one of the other threads, but here it is again:
; Sorry I obviously don't have level 3, in fact I am not sure if anyone has gotten that far.........maybe Beth.
PinkPurple - I measure higher BEFORE I massage, and smaller after I massage. I usually try to apply some lotion, usually my leftover breast cream to my boobs after massaging, as they get irritated from all the movement.
P.H I feel your frustration; I really think Beth got the best results, because she very recently finished breast feeding or having a baby or both, can't remember, but I know she has posted it a couple of times.
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Beth
(Login emorgan7719) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 18 2007, 1:08 PM
Hey girls! Did I hear my name? LOL I did gain inches very quickly, but come to think of it, practicly everyone else that started the same time as me did as well. I know Lisa grew quite a bit right after she had started as well. As for me, yes, I did finish breastfeeding my daughter about 5 months before starting the program. I also slept on a heating pad on low over night. I do not know if that helped at all, but I thought I would tell you about it anyways. I have since stopped grow yours. I have actually been off the program about 2 weeks now. GY gave me every preggo symptom in the book with the exception of the buldging belly. I had my tubes tied and have no desire to experience that again. It just messed my hormones up really bad and it started to affect my relationships. I am NOT saying that this happens to everyone, but that is what happened to me. However, I appear to have kept 1.5" of the 2.5" I originally gained. I just hope that I do not lose that as well. I guess I need to start over again on my NBE journey. I will keep you guys updated.
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pinkpurple
(Login pinkpurple) re: Grow yours May 18 2007, 2:15 PM
Hi Henri - Today I had no instructions!! Does that mean I can have a break?!
Actually tonight I am not massaging as my boobies hurt too much. This will be the first massage I have missed but really feel I need a break as they feel so bruised.I know I am massaging hard enough just don't seem to be getting anywhere fast - yet being told I need to massage more firmly! I have never breat fedand had my last child nearly 14 years ago so possibly that is a reason my growth is slow. I do admit they seem to be firmimg up and possibly growing ( or is it my imagination?) I think the tops have filled out a bit.
I do take herbs as well ( see my program) and will stick woth GROW YOURS for a while longer as I feel there is some benefit to it - though I think you need to take a break once in a while ( only one or two massages though) as your boobies do get really sore and the skin a bit rubbery.
I find my bigger boob is much firmer than the other - my left and I am left handed. My smaller right boob is quite slack with none of the rimness behind it. I do work out with weights regularly so though that would have firmed it up.
Sad thing with NBE is that you become so much more critlcal of your boobs
BUT at least we are doing things to make them bigger and that's what counts isn't it girls ?
I know mine have filled out quite a bot and grown since I started NBE over a year ago. I've taken pills daily, done the massages and am determined to get as much growth as I possibly can. Still a 32B (large 32B now rather than tiny) but have a good cleavage, and with a gel bra look great!
POSITIVE THINKING GIRLS!!!!
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Lisa
(Login lilmama40) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 18 2007, 6:40 PM
Hi all! Ok, my life has been a little crazy lately with having to go out of town for a funeral and getting prepared to start a new job. I'm still very happy with GY. I'm on an herbal break of course, and had gotten to 37 inches on herbs which was an inch and a half of growth. When I started GY I fairly quickly grew to 38 1/2. I haven't passed that mark yet, but it's my own fault because some days I can't get in 2 massages and can only do 1, or I don't have time to do the full length of time I'm supposed to. My boobs always adjust to what's going on though. The more I do the 2 full length massages the fuller they get and the more sore they are as the lobes get larger. If I have a few days where I don't do the full program, my boobs back off a little bit if that makes sense. It's sortof the same principle as supply and demand when you're feeding a baby, the boobs adjust to the demands that are made on them. But then once I get back into the full program within a few days they're right back to where they are supposed to be. I have not leaked or expressed any fluid. If I can stay on course better I believe I will have further growth. I am happy with things the way they are, since I'm able to take an herb break and still retain all of my growth and since GY is adjusting daily for me depending on how much time I have to do it. I haven't experienced any "other" symptoms at all. Periods are normal, weight hasn't changed, and I feel exactly the same as I did before starting GY. It may not be for everybody, but for those who it's working for and who are happy with it I think it's fantastic! :-)
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Sheep
(no login) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 21 2007, 6:03 AM
Have ANY of those girls who have never been pregnant grown at all on the GY program?
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Alexia
(Login Alexia1981) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 21 2007, 7:21 AM
A little bit but can't get past level one!
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 21 2007, 6:15 PM
My measurment has gone up a bit but it's before my period so deffinitely lutheal swelling, however I never had much lutheal swelling before. Otherwise I've slacked off with my massage lately cause I've been busy, ill and haven't slept well. I feel that I'm the kind of person who loses lobe size fast. But I will get back on track soon.
I have one question - what exactly is necessary to move past level 1? I'm starting to think that the program might not ever let me cause of the initial wrong measurments I put in...
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Anniegirl16
(Login anniegirl16) Week two May 21 2007, 9:23 PM
I finally moved onto week 2 because I have gain 1/2 an inch...it has taken me about 20 days to get there since I'm not the best about doing the massages everyday...but i never seem to lose the growth and i always seem sore.
maybe if you e-mail joseph, you could change your beginning messurements...or just make a new account with the right ones.
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Loreli
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 22 2007, 1:35 PM
Just wondering if anyone could email me whats involved in Level 2? (danikinz@gmail.com)
I think i have entered stats wrong, as it tells me i have gained over 1 inch and am ready to move onto level 3! I haven't even seen Level 2 video yet, have just been following level 1 for the past 20 days.
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Anniegirl16
(Login anniegirl16) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 22 2007, 5:08 PM
not sure if we are suppse to tell people are we but i guess if we are all in this together...level 2- 10 min. begging exercise 10 min kneading exercise and 2 min nipple. twice a day on both breasts.
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 26 2007, 7:31 PM
Well I've ''grown'' an inch while on GY, but it's right before my period so I'll probably lose it when it comes. I have no idea how much I swelled up before, cause I never measured. The one inch difference maybe shows slighly on the eye, but not significently.
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Loreli
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 27 2007, 11:27 AM
Thanks Annie.
So what's the difference between Level 1 and Level 2? Aren't they exactly the same exercises? I'm confused... I thought the levels were different exercises
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Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 27 2007, 11:47 AM
The technique is the same, but the times changed - increase in one, decrease in the other.
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annie2
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 28 2007, 4:30 PM
no ur'e not missing anything in Level 2 it's all the same massage techniques. just as what henri sayss just time changes.
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WiccanWoman
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. May 29 2007, 12:32 PM
A note about level 2 girls.
If you miss days entering your nfo you will not reach the next level so make sure your measurement charts are current.
ALSO..
Joseph told me lvl 2 should be done one breast in the am and one at night, this might be the better way of doing lvl 2, and YES there is a different exercise included in it so make sure your not missing waching any videos, its not just ramping up time.
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skyley
(Login skyley) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. June 1 2007, 8:54 PM
Hello everyone I just started GY today and just did my first massage. I delivered twins 8 months ago so hopfully that will help me out a little.
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Black Sheep
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. June 13 2007, 3:45 AM
I am on fourth week just hit level 3! I have gained 1.5 to 2 inches. Not gaining evenly at each point though. at nipple 1 3/4, at 1.5 gained 2, at 3 gained 1.5. Is that normal? I stopped taking herbs but am still growing with GY. It is really hot here lately so I wonder if the weather might have helped bump my growth up a bit more. I also gained 3 pounds after I started adding protein shakes
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mo
(Login dragonfly180) Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. June 27 2007, 1:20 PM
i have been on gy why almost four weeks now and im happy with what i see so far..most pils and stuff you dont see the change for along time..i feel much fuller and i look a bit fuller too..you can see my pics on the BE board because im not sure about putting them on eves..anyone can see them and they dont have to loggin..i dont feel safe with that.i dont get milk when i massage but i do know that i leak throughout the day because my bra ends up wt and i can see milk rings in my bra..i dont know if thats normal but i think its a little strange..i dont want to be leaking to the point i have to where nursing pads..i wish all of you the best of luck possible and have a good one ladys..
xxxxto all
mo
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Wendy
(Login GrowWendy) Mo, good progress June 27 2007, 5:40 PM
I just looked on BBoard and there is growth! Congrats.
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silv
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. July 1 2007, 5:12 AM
hi everybody! i'm new to this forum. i'm very happy to see a lot of you have good results with GY program. i hope you girls can give me some help on the GY program. i have been on GY for 11 days already and have gain maybe 1 CM so far and still on level one. Is that normal? the system is telling me that i'm not putting enough pressure when i massage but i'm sure i did because my breasts were sore. My nipples are bigger, redder, and harder. I started out with no lobes to about 11 lumps or lobes now and some of them are the size of chick peas or small grapes and some are like apple seeds. i'm just confused that if i didn't put enough pressure why would the lobes grow bigger and increased in #s?? Everything grew very fast except my breasts size. Did anybody have the same problem that i have?
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Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. July 1 2007, 9:31 PM
The process told me I wasn't applying enoguh pressure cause of lack of sucess, while in the next sentence saying I was pressing to hard cause of bruising. Don't take it for perfect.
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silv
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. July 2 2007, 5:28 PM
It bugs me a little that i'm still on level 1 after two weeks and with the rate i'm growing, i think i'll be on level 1 for a very very long time. Maybe i'll never be able to go on to the next level but i won't give up. I think maybe because i'm too skinny to begin with. i understand is hard to just grow breasts so i'll keep doing the massages until winter time.
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kieyah
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Grow Yours Progress cont'd from main page. July 2 2007, 10:43 PM
I wouldn't be worried. I was on level 1 for twice as long as you, then level 2 for only a few days then jumped to level 3 where I still am now. There isn't much difference from each level except mostly timing so don't dispare. I wouldn't do it any harder if you are bruising. Try massaging for longer instead and really concentrate on the lobes that you already have spend twice as long on them and then move on to the next. That's what I was doing when I suddenly jumped to level 3. Hope that helps. Good luck to you
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Brenda2
(no login) areola change July 28 2007, 5:57 AM
I've been doing GY for 3 1/2 weeks and have grown more than an inch. My lobes are still on the small side but today when I looked in the mirror I was shocked to see the areola change. It has nearly doubled in size. I have never had kids and have rather small areolas until today. I have been reading through many of the posts and haven't seen any areola comments.
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Wendy
(Login GrowWendy) Congrats July 28 2007, 4:46 PM
Glad it is working. The changes you are seeing are normal. If you never have had kids then your breasts are developing fully (tricking it into thinking you have a child to feed) which includes changes to the areola. I read they may also darken. I think mine are a shade or 2 darker and slightly larger. Over an inch growth is fantastic!
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Laduline
(Login Ladulin) Question for Brenda2 July 29 2007, 8:55 PM
Hello, congrats and I have a question
What has been your progress until today?
I admire your GY because I tried it only for six days, I felt great but when my breasts started to change a little I got scared and I stopped. Could you describe your changes for me?
Ive never breastfed I plan to have children in the future.