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Jun 17, 2006#1
Let me start with my stats and routine.
age 38, no kids
height 5'3"
weight 115lb.
started NBE end of Sep 05 with a loose B cup (weight 112 lb then)
i am a smoker(very bad >_< ) and a night person.
achieved full 34C (or small 34D) in early April, 06
current size
upper bust 36 1/2+ inch.(93cm)
lower bust 30 1/4 inch. (77cm)

my routine.
soya milk 1 cup w/coffee in the morning (w/ 2tbs tremella)
20 push-ups (against table) be4 massages
massage 20 min.
boobie soup for lunch.(mainly soups make from chicken feet broth)
(hot)soya milk 1 cup after dinner. (add 1 tbsp of fermented rice most of time)
lots seafoods (clams, shrimps..) once a week at least.
add in borage oil (1000mg) since Mar 15th/06.

my goal--->34DD or E

i think i hit a stall now, so i just started to take VIT-C and E a few days ago, see if i can get a boost from that. will keep u girls updated. (as in May-30, 06)
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Unread postJun 17, 2006#2
I have stopped my programme since Feb., 07. So far the size has remained.

i used borage(seeds) oil for a boost, it worked well. Smile

i took 1 1000mg borage oil cap X 3 a day w/ meal for ONE MONTH.
the second month i took 2 a day.
third month 1 a day.
(above dosage is recommended on TW NBE forum)

tiger lily already posted most of my massages in her programme, please check her programme

most of my massage techniques r being posted in tiger lily's programme, please check her programme or the link above, however she missed out these probabaly cuz she found out the "arrow" for directions can't be displayed here, that's why she didn't post them? Smile

here they r.
*use knuckles of both hands, push in deeply in following directions.
¨U
.ª for 20 times. ("U"is the boobie ), ªis on the line straight down from the nipple, there is a presspoint on the edge of breast. push it up like ª, then

«
U
ª for 20 times.

¨U© 20 times. vice versa for the outher side.

*there is a pressure point right in the middle of our breasts, on the line between 2 nipples. where the "+" is.

U+U..... I use the knuckle of my thumb to push like this ª for 20 times.

*right underneath the nippls at the bottom of our breasts, there are 2 pressure points, I use both knuckles of my thunbs to push them, too.

U-U for 20 times.
ªª

that's about all I do for massages. I do all the massages I mentioned in about 20 min.

friendly reminder, always use lotion or oil with your massages, so you don't hurt your skin.

*****the "arrow" for directions can't be shown in this forum, please check this link.(starts 4th reply)

http://www.aphroditewomenshealth.com/fo ... 75&page=14
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Unread postJun 17, 2006#6

*seafoods, seaweed, agar agar. shirmps and clams and fish w/ skin on r the best. Smile

*wild yam? some people call it Japanese naga, I saw it in chinese supermarket called "huai-shan". Here is the pictures so there is no mistakes, I know it's rich in DHEA.
http://www.yaoducn.com/cyzycjs/38.htm
*avocado
*green papaya (to use to cook with bass or pork spare-rib)
*chicken feet(I know it sounds gross, but most effective in my (and other girls')experience, I've been eatten them every day for at least 2 monthes. don't boo me. )
*pig knuckle, beef, eggs
*soy product, soy bean milk, yogurt, milk is also good
*peanuts, walnuts.....we need some fat to make boobs grow.
*sesame, cheese
*potato, carrots, corns, eggplant, broccoli
*lettece and asparagus---most recommended by those girls for vegi
*apples, banana, papaya, cherry, peach, olive.
*pomegranate (best eat the seeds, too)

Okay, I just eat chicken feet everyday (make it as broth), because it's most effective in my own experience. I always eat them after my massage, because one massagist said that always eat some boobie helpful foods after massages. You can just drink soy bean milk or eggs.

**gelatin-rich and high protein foods r very helpful, u may try to use them in pill form if foods r not available. but i prefer foods, haven't tried the pills yet, but i think gelatin/collagen caps will help, too. Smile

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Unread postJun 17, 2006#7

list of "boobie unfriendly foods", just try to avoid them, BUT NO NEED TO GET PARANOID!!!!!!!!!
I cheat once in a while, and I don't eat too much of them. it won't hurt if just a little.

BEER, ice cold drink or food (such as ice cream....sorry, girls), grapefruit, pinapple, watermelon, honeydew melon, chinese cabbage, bamboo, kiwi, coconut, pear, fresh chinese date(jujube), tomato, orange, strawberry, chives, leeks

not to bad, right?

however, tomato is okay if it's cooked.
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Unread postJun 18, 2006#8

i mix these simple exercises to my massages for breast-lifting purpose, i think they helped. my breasts r lifted about an inch. Smile

* the "lion face" is some kind of yoga method, i think. i read it somewhere but not positive.

anyways, u make ur face like "shocked" (like jim carey would do ), stick out ur tongue as far as u can, u can feel the muscles of ur breasts contract. do it 20 times then use ur plams to push up gently from nipples to ur chin, that helps to lift the breasts.

*i also do this. stand relaxed both arms down, make a fist and raise one arm and reach up as far as u can, use as much strength as u can, ur upper arm will be touching ur ear. hold it for 30 sec. then put down do the other arm.

*and push ur plams against each other as hard as u can whenever u have time, that's pretty good too.
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Unread postJul 06, 2006#9

i had been slaking in exercise and eating be4 bed i gained 7 lbs. Sad

i didn't gain anything boob-wise. so i tried to lose weight and kept my boobs. i lost 2 1/2 lbs and kept the same measurement. but after i ate leeks dumplings 4 days straight i lost 1 cm. this is my first shrinkage in 8 months since i started NBE (leeks r NBE no-no) i did more massage for a week and couldn't get it back. very very sad.

then i recalled this lady (from 32B to E cup) in TW's forum said that she was shocked by the effectiveness of the chicken/feet soup. so i made some home-made chicken broth, scoop out the fat on top, then used the broth to cook the chicken feet soup. i got my 1 cm back the next day!!!!! plus fuller breasts!!!! very happy now. now i am on 4th day of this soup, still have my 1 cm w/ me and haven't gained any weight. (i only eat boobie soup for lunch) i will keep eating this until my chicken broth runs out see if i can get more results. : ) i am still trying to go back 115 lbs, so i have been eaten less for dinner and no more food afterwards execpt my soya milk.
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Unread postJul 11, 2006#10

i started using aloe vera+borage oil+EVOO(for mobility) a while ago, i was also trying to lose weight, i lost 2 1/2 lb and kept same measurement, i think it helped. :-)
then i ate too much stupid leeks, i lost 1 cm(my first experience of shrinkage). kept massaging w/ boobie batter above for more then a week w/o any progress. almose gave up NBE cuz it was frustrating after i had dealt w/ stalling for 2 months.
then i received my order of 14% wild yam cream, epo, progesterone cream, i decided to give it a try.
now i use wild yam cream+epo+V-E oil+EVOO(for mobility), and back on taking 3 borage oil a day plus heat pad for 5~20 min depends if i have time. try that for maybe a week w/o progress, then i made the chicken/feet soup (see post above), got 1cm back+fuller the next day. few days later i started appling progestrone cream after shower.
i just ran out of the chicken broth yesterday. so i am back to feet soup again. but my boobs r feeling(by grabing) fuller. so far everything is going well with my new adding thingy. i have a little growth (1 cm, measured this evening), but i only ate some salad for supper tonite(still trying to lose weight slowly), will c if i still have it tomorrow.

i just remembered, i did experience some fluctuation while on the aloe vera/borage oil/EPOO boobie batter for over a week (93cm~94cm full bust), i thought my stalling was broken, then the "leeks" incident happened, it droped to 92cm. so i think it is a good boobie batter.(suggested by Gisela) :-)
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Unread postApr 27, 2007#12

After my stall I didn't have any real growth but fullness, so I took a break in the beginning of FEB.07, I had kept my size and fullness with occasionally massage and boobie soups til the week before. this week I see that i am starting to loose my fullness, so I start grow yours programme, will post my morning measurements for daily record.
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Unread postApr 28, 2007#13

mine stats to start GY are pretty much the same like before my stall, maybe .5cm bigger, but I weight 118.5 lb this morning, I also start taking borage oil and royal jelly today, hope to see some growth soon on my new GY programme.
I am going to use morning measurements on my programme page here, and night measurements at GY for records.
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Unread postJul 09, 2007#14

Not really an updateing, I only did GY for a few days, but couldn't follow through at the moment due to personal life difficulties, but I would think it's really good massage method.

Anyways, it has been 5 months since I stopped my programme, I eat some boobie nono foods moderately now(such as water melon, ice cream), still have my size and a little more (cause I have gained weight).

Currently, I am 95cm (37.5 inches) and 123 lb. I do about less than a minute knuckle massage in shower, and once a week boobie soup if I can (as maintenance). (even if the wether is hot, I don't drink too much cold drinks, when I do, I drink it slowly--like sipping)

Now I am on a mission to lose weight, I will update when I go back to 115 lb and see if I still have my size.

Since I have stopped my programme, any question is welcome on my programme page if needed. Now I can fill up my 34 D but don't really look big cause my chubby tummy. :-(

P.S. I still drink soy milk everyday just because I like it. :-)
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Unread postJul 09, 2007#15

Where do I find chicken feet? Do you have before and after pics of your progress? I would be very excited to see your results. You sound like you were about my size and your size now is my goal.
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Unread postJul 09, 2007#16

kieyah, sorry, I didn't take any pictures, if I start my programme again I will take pics, because my upper breasts are not "meaty" so I don't really look big, that's the part I will target on if I start again.

you can find chicken feet at asian supermarkets, green papaya sea bass soup is also very good boobie soup, hitomi (who I learned this method from) grew from B~E from that soup.
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Unread postJul 14, 2007#17

Hey Fengshui!!!

How's it going?? Do you still have my email address? If so, email me sometime. I would love to hear how you are doing!

Deb
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Unread postJul 15, 2007#18

Just reveiwed my old post above, on Jul, 6, 06, I gained 7 lb. on weight and nothing boobie-wise( than I lost weight to 117 lb but had kept 93cm until recently, but I never got back to 115 lb), which means I was 122 lb, 93 cm. This morning I weighed myself 121 lb. 95cm overbust, so I am bigger than a year ago on the same weight, that's some growth just on maintenance I guess.

I do my maintence in shower with soap, I use knuckles to make circles around my boobs, then I use left hand to hold my left boobs up and use (right hand) knuckles to massage up and down real fast on my upper breast (between nipple and collar bone), vice versa for right boob, all done in a minute. I still squeeze my boobs like 5 times and 10 times chi massage before bed if I remember. boobie soup once a week if can.
Will see how it goes with my weight lose plan. :-)

P.S. I wonder if ripplu bras have helped my little growth? I have been wearing them for a long time, over six months I think.( I am still wearing the step 1 bras)
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CindyG

Unread postJul 25, 2007#19

I'm sorry, I don't judge what you choose to eat but Chicken Feet soup just sounds too awful for me to even try. Is there any way I can work around this with another protein? Why are chicken feet so effective?
Thanks.
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Unread postJul 25, 2007#20

Hi, cindyG, you don't need to eat the chicken feet soup, that's just my personal choice, cause I can use the feet soup (broth) to make all kinds of different soups, so I am not eating same soup everyday, that's why I choose it.

There are many other boobie soups to choose from (though not really for westners' taste), such as green papaya sea bass soup, green papaya pork rib soup, green papaya pig knuckle's soup, milkfish soup, naga(wild yam) rib soup,.... the main reason we eat those soups is for collagen/protein intake. Also seafoods are very recommended. You can check food and drink receipes page for boobie foods list and some soups/drinks receipes. Of course you also need to massage for this method to work.

Hope my answer helps. :-)

Here is a link about a westen lady use chicken feet for dishes, you can check it out.
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?a ... 4976728203

CindyC
Okay, I'm trying to be more animal-friendly and I found out that Chicken feet soup is good for the gelatin and protein. Do you think Agar Agar, which is used as a kosher gelatin substitute, would work just as well as a regular gelatin? I'm just wondering because I know gelatin is made from animal parts. Any opinions? Thanks.

I would think agar agar would help, I have read some girls in TW's forum eating tremella (snow fungus) a quter bag a day got results, and I have heard of lots women eating that to keep young-looking skin, very popular in TW. also seaweeds(kelp) are recommended.

kieyah
I have been unable to find an asian market around here. Any other suggestions as to where to maybe find the chicken feet? could they be dried and maybe found in herbal stores or some other place?

Hi, kieyah, the reason we use chicken feet is cause the feet contain gelatin/collagen, barely any fat, you can use pig trotters or pig knuckles to make broth (need to simmer for houres before the broth turns white/beige), then scoop out the fat on top (after chilled in frige, the fat will float on top, and the broth will be like jelly), that's as good as the feet soup (just more time consuming), use that broth to make any soup you like. Or you can use the sea bass (with skin on) to make green papaya sea bass soup, very popular boobie soup in TW.
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Unread postAug 15, 2007#26

thank you so much. would pig trotters be the same as pig feet?
I'm pretty sure i can find these other parts in most grocers. thanks again!
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Unread postAug 15, 2007#27

yes, pig trotters are pig feet, you can even add peanuts in the soup to cook together, very popular boobie soup in TW.
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Nikole

Unread postAug 28, 2007#28

Hi, Do you know of any vegetarian meal that will help my breasts grow? thanks
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kieyah
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Unread postAug 28, 2007#29

how long did it take for you to notice any results?
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Unread postAug 30, 2007#30

if you don't take herbs, I would suggest you try to follow the boobie food list (veggies and no-cold drinks), at the food and drinks page, there are some recipes you can check it out.
You can drink soya milk (see chocogirl's page she got growth from soy milk) or avacado milk, papaya milk are all very popular boobie drink in TW.
The soy/potato/walnut recipe is really worth a try, I haven't really tried it "per se",here is what happened, I have been working on weight lose, lost couple of pounds already, and I lost 1 cm boobage. few days ago, I had beef rice ball with mashed potato and corns, I drank my soy milk after dinner (as usual), than had some peanuts as night snacks, drank a little merlot before bed, the next morning I got 1+cm back ( I also gained back 0.5 lb), but I lost the 0.5 lb today and my measurement still 95.5 cm. And you still need to massage.
Or you can take borage oil, vit-E or/and royal jelly to help your growth.
Hope this helps, good luck!! :-)

It took me about a month or so to see my growth.

My bradalis bras are too tight now, I wonder if I got bigger or it's just luteal phase, it's 18th day since my period. But it was never this tight before, just checked bradalis website, my size is not available for step 1. I really like bradalis bras, and I am still trying to collect underarm fats, so not ready to move onto step 2 yet.
Not on any programme currently, just my maintanance massage + weekly boobie soup, and do the GY finger massage when I drink my morning coffee (few minutes each side).
Not planning going back to my programme any time soon, but if what I am doing is working, that's really GREAT!! No hassle NBE method for me!! :-)
We'll see when my period comes.
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Sarah

Unread postDec 16, 2007#33

Hello Fengshui,

Do you have any advice for somebody who is starting at 34AAAA? It's amazing how much you were able to grow. I am only hoping for a regular 34A so I look decent. Could you please tell me if you ever had any tingling and pain that many on the forum describe? I have never had any such sensation. I don't really have any change within my cycle either. I don't have the so-called luteal swelling. Anything wrong with me? I started using progesterone cream with USP standard 20 mg each day on the 2nd half of my cycle, along saw palmetto, fenugreek, hops, royal jelly, etc. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Sarah
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Unread postDec 17, 2007#34

Hi Fengshui,

Another thing I meant to ask is that I heard the Chinese style of sweet fermented rice is helpful NBE. Being Chinese, I always knew that women after having had babies tend to eat it with eggs, and it's supposed to help with milk production. Do you know if anyone has tried to eat sweet fermented rice for NBE purposes and had any results?

Thanks.

Sarah
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Unread postDec 17, 2007#35

hi, Sarah, I have read quite a few girls who started with an A and succeeded, tigerlily is one of the best examples. I don't know if you are very skinny, if your BMI is 19 and up might be faster for you to see results.

As for myself, I had never experience any tingling or pain when on my programme. I don't remember I had any luteal swelling in the first few months, as far as I can remember, I started noticing any luteal swelling (only about 1/2 in) after six months on my programme.

Sorry, I can't comment on herbs 'cause I haven't tried any. About royal jelly, I remember the recommended dosage in TW's forum was 4000mg/day, but in that thread, there were girls got resluts from only taking 2000mg/daily. I think I was on 2000mg for a while and felt it gave me more fullness but I wasn't on it for long I think.

here is some threads from TW forums if you read Chinese,

http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/2_C ... 8_1_1.html
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/2_C ... 8_1_1.html
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/2_C ... 8_1_1.html
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/CateL/2_ ... D_218.html

http://www.urcosme.com/boards/board2-sn ... htm#136148

Especially this thread, the girl "sylvan", she is from AA~C,(she is skinny and a vegan) I also use her massage method, I feel it's very helpful.

http://www.dr-bra.com/forum_A/Discussio ... main_id=91

Hope this info is helpful to you. :-)
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Unread postDec 17, 2007#36

About sweet fermented rice with egg, the most successful example is probably the TW star " Tan-shin", she is an F cupper (real boobs). Hitomi tried, she felt it helped. It's quite popular in TW for NBE, too.
I tried sweet fermented rice with egg a few times, didn't like it at all, so I added 1 tbsp. in my soy milk as my boobie drink when on my programme. I like the taste and I think it's helpful.

Let me explain why I think it's helpful,
I have been off my programme about 10 months, I do my 1 min maintanace massage and some boobies soups. I try to eat boobie soup at least once a week, but sometimes I go no soup for more than a week if I am too busy to make any. Even if I am off my programme, I still drink soy milk everyday, and 9 out of 10 times, I add 1 tbsp. sweet fermented rice in my soy milk. I am not on any programme right now, but my boobies are a bit bigger, about 1/2 in so far, my breasts are meatier on the upper top,
and I can't really see the rib bones anymore (my rib bones were very obvious when I got off my programme).
So, since I got off my programme, not really do much in these 10 months, my breasts are a bit bigger and fuller.

So, if you can accept sweet fermented rice, it's worth a try.
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Sarah

Unread postDec 18, 2007#37

Hi Fengshui,

Thanks for your input. I will definitely take sweet fermented rice. Although I don't love it, I don't hate it either, so I figure it can't hurt. I will also start drinking soy milk. I don't like the kind bought in stores because I think there is a ton of sugar and probably a million of chemicals in it, so I make my own.

I am still trying to find green papaya.

Could you tell again just how long it took you to start noticing ANY growth at all? I am also close to 40 so I am thinking that my growth will be slow in coming.

Sarah
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Unread postDec 19, 2007#38

It's great that you make your own soy milk, don't forget to massage, it takes both food and massage to work. I remember Hitomi mentioned in her thread, she asked the vendor at the fresh market to order the green papaya for her, maybe you can try that.

I remember I only got better shape after 2 months, but in Mar. 06, the growth was obvious, maybe a whole cup in Mar., so, about 5th month to see real growth coming.
maybe it has something to do with timing????

best luck to you!! :-)

Leslie
Hi,Fengshui!

First of all, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience on this forum. My questions are:

1. Do you make your own soy milk or buy? If you make, do you use a machine?
2. Could you describe how you do push-ups against table?

Thanks!

Hi, Leslie, I prefer home-made soy milk, I used to make it myself before my NBE, but when I was on my programme, I use the store-bought instant soy milk mix to save time.
If I make home-made soymilk I use blender, there is soy milk machine available, but my friend told me the soy milk tasted pretty weak from the machine.

About the push-up, I put both hands against a table or countertop, both feet on ground one-foot apart, and do push-ups as you would on the floor.

Fengshui, I am now ready to devise my owm program based on what I read from your experience. I think yours is the safest and most natural among all other methods, i.e., won't do me harm even if it does not produce any intended result.

I will start my program next spring when it's not so cold. I will let you know if I have any luck, thanks again!
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Unread postJan 22, 2008#42

Hi Fengshui,

I can't open any of the links to massage instruction pictures, is there any chance you could copy and paste into a word document and email it to me? If you could do this then please send to optom1982@hotmail.co.uk if it's difficult for any reason that's fine.
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Unread postJan 23, 2008#43

Hi, Louise, I am sorry I don't know which link you refer to (there are no pics provided in those links).
All first few links were just to my old posts on the other forum with details of my methods and the lower links are some Chinese NBE forums (in Chinese language). If you want to know more of the massage method I used, you can either check the first link on the top or you can check the "fengshui explaination of massage" on the main page(sweet Tiger lily organized my posts from the other forum), or you can check the "pansyclub massage page" (also on main page) that's from dr.bra.com where my massage method is originated from (recreated by a TW lady Hitomi)
Hope this helps. :-)
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Unread postJan 23, 2008#44

I thought somewhere you said you used Pansyclub massage but I couldn't find it when I looked yesterday - so did you only do the stuff in the Pansyclub pics? That's quite straightforward and I remember I found my pressure points easily - they're squishy! Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.
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Unread postJan 24, 2008#45

You are welcome!! I wonder if you found the "pansyclub massage" page, here is the link just in case.

http://www.natural-breast-forum.netoutl ... ssage.html

I did the pansy club massage in the beginning, but I was never sure if I found the points or not, then Hitomi introduced her massage method (the knuckle massage) in her TW forum, that was easier for me, that's the massage I sticked with. here is the link if you need it.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/486111/t ... of+MASSAGE

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Louise1982
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Unread postJan 24, 2008#46

Thanks again, I'll have to spend some time with the Brava off working out what to do!
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CuteLittleBunnie
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Unread postMar 21, 2008#47

Fengshui,

I went to a mexican market the other day with my friend's mom because her daughter needed chicken feet for a school project. I thought you had to eat the feet...it's just to make the broth? Thank goodness! So, yeah, my question is what does the chicken feet broth taste like? What flavor do they give to the broth? They are super cheap too. $.25 for 2 feet. What is that fermented rice? What makes it different from the traditional sticky white rice? If you add edamame in it will that increase the growth? Do you happen to have a before and after picture by any chance?
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classyfashh
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Unread postMar 21, 2008#48

Wait, what? You don't take ANY herbs?
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Unread postMar 23, 2008#49

No, you don't have to eat the feet, but I would suggest you to cook longer when making the broth in order to get most of collagen out of the feet. The feet broth is pretty much like chicken broth but barely any fat, just full with collagen. The fermented rice is fermented with yeast, it has a wine flavor. I don't know if it will go with edamame, since the original recipe is with cooked egg, I would think it works good with protein.
I don't have any pics, maybe I will post a after picture when I finally get a camera on ebay, keep getting out bidded, haha.
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Unread postMar 23, 2008#50

Not really, I got my growth mainly from massage + food, but I did try borage oil and royal jelly. I think they helped. About Hitomi, she was fully on food and massage, she perfers natural food source.

Hi fengshui,

I'm from Singapore.

I wanted to try fermented sweet rice for my grow as i got lots of small lumps for my both breast n i did remove 1 lump from my right side. but it grow back again. Sad

I dun dare to take anything herds cos i dunno will it cos my lumps to grow biggier anot?

Anyway, i cant find this fermented sweet rice in singapore.
Do you have any sugguestion?
How it look like?

Babyhui.
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Unread postApr 03, 2008#52

Hi, sorry for the late reply. It's not hard to make fermented rice, here is the link you can check it out ( I assume you read Chinese?)

http://images.google.com/images?q=%E9%8 ... art=0&sa=N

Since you are Singaporean, you can try the boobie soups + massages, and try this herb tonic, ask the herb doctor if this would work for you, it seems work for lots of girls.

http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/07/ ... 8_1_1.html

Actually, for your condition (lumps) I don't know what's best for you, since the arcupunture works for you, check this link, it looks good, I am thinking buying this lady's book.

http://breastup.724.tw/

Hope you will find them helpful to you. :-)
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Unread postApr 04, 2008#53

Fengshui u r great.. Smile

Yes i can read chinese but not very good..Hee....
Hmm... That means i cant buy ready make fermented rice in can or bottle in Singapore? Anyway i have print out how to make fermemted rice. Smile

Now I am taking Borage Oil(3ea) 3times a day n also using the knuckles massage whenever i bath. Every night i will use EPO oil to massage.

For this herb tonic i will go check with my arcupunture doc:
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I have order WU also as i dont know how to mix the herbs which the forum ppl using it.And i will start using WU this weekend. Hope will grow from that. Smile

The book looks cool but i dont lik eto read.. Too lazy ba... Heee...
But i read alot in this forum.. Wahahaaha....

Love u Fengshui.
Babyhui Wink

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Unread postApr 04, 2008#54

I am trying to devise a plan for boobie growth. I am 5 months post lactating and can't take alot of the popular herbs here that others take. I am just starting to do a little more agressive massages now...Why did you choose wild yam for your booie batter? It does seem to be one that I can use. I know this is probly a stupid question, but what is EVO in the boobie batter?
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Unread postApr 04, 2008#55

I thought you could find the femented rice in Singapore? Few replies up, there is this girl Sarah she has it and I thought she lived in Singapore???

Since you order WU already, maybe you should just try it out first, it seems to work for lots of girls here, more is not always better. Best luck to you!! :-)

P.S. I didn't mean that you need to buy the book, I remember I read it on that website, the lady showed one technic "PAI-SA", it was showed on TW TV show before, seems to work quick, I forgot which section attached the clips, anyways, there are some good info on the website. :-)
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Unread postApr 04, 2008#56

I just gave wildyam cream a try because I hit a stall, so I was switching things around hoping to break it, but I don't remember it helped much for me or maybe I didn't give it enough time.

Do you mean EVOO? It's extra virgin oilve oil, I added it in for mobility. EPO is evening primrose oil.
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Unread postApr 04, 2008#57

I not sure Sarah is from Sningapore anot as i have read thru it, but she didnt say where she from.

Anyway u r rite i should try WU pills first since i have order it.
I jus cant wait to have some grow....

N i still goin for my arcupuncture once a week, as they say it need to complete 10 session to see the result. Sad

cant wait anymore so i have order WU.

Ya, I hear abt "PAI-SA" somewhere also.. I will go read up the web once i got time.

Is nice to have ur reply.
U r so helpful.. Smile

Hope everything goes on well.....

Babyhui Wink

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Unread postApr 04, 2008#58

Thank you for responding...I couldn't figure out what EVOO was. I am researching trying to figure out what to use to massage with and what I can take as well as do more aggressive massages and eat boobie friendly food. You are an inspiration girl!!
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Unread postApr 05, 2008#59

Fengshui, thank you for the breastup link. I kind of browse thru the web and learned a little about the Pai-Sa and Gua-Sa. I actually found out about the Gua-sa technique under your arms for BE from Dr.Bra forum but for some reason red dots didn't come out so I stopped doing it. I tried to imagine how to do Pai-sa but couldn't do it so I used the tradition Gua-sa and a lot of bright and darker red dots appeared on my left hand (less on the right) especially under the arms. I also have the "chicken skin dot" (the one she said it's really bad). if I have both then is it consider o.k or is it bad since she said the chicken type needs half of year of treatment. By the way, my arms feel lighter after one session.
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Unread postApr 05, 2008#60

Hi Fengshui! Thnx for all the info you are providing us. It has been really helpful!

About the fermented rice...is there a certain time that you are supposed to eat it...like before or after your period? cause I was reading a chinese site and i think it said to eat it before your period. but im not too sure as my chinese is not very good.

I was reading from this site http://info.china.alibaba.com/news/deta ... 38686.html

Thnx in advance!

Also, could u help me translate these sites pls? They look like they have a bit of info and tips. I couldn't really understand the whole thing.
Thnx!

http://whx.tzgt.gov.cn/newOperate/html/ ... /8422.html

http://whx.tzgt.gov.cn/newOperate/html/ ... /6907.html
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Unread postApr 10, 2008#62

Hi fengshui

I am trying NBE without herbs and just massage. Not sure if I really have enough intake of good boobie food and don't want to mess with chicken feet. I thought I would ask for your opinion. I am taking 1000mg borage oil, geletin pills (for protien) and thinking about adding collegen and royal jelly. I am trying to eat a lot of peanut butter, tuna and nuts, and stay hydrated. Do you have any recommendations for me?
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Unread postApr 11, 2008#63

I don't know much about "gua-sa and pai-sa", maybe you can check these two links to get some ideas (you can also ask questions, there are lots of experts on there)

http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/search/se ... 97%A7&mc=0

http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/search/se ... 97%A7&mc=0

I think both "gua-sa or pai-sa" are helping your "chi" flows and get rid of "blockages", maybe you can try avoid "cold" type foods and cold drinks, eat more "warm" type foods, also drink the "boobie helpful" teas (check food and drink page), see if your condition improves. After doing NBE a while, my cold hands and feet improved a lot, worth a try!! Hope this helps. :-)
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Unread postApr 11, 2008#64

Those websites are just talking about the same things--boobies food + massage (or exercises, such as swimming, running, tennis, yoga...). you can find these info on my programme and tigerlily's (plus the food and drink page here), there are couple recipes were posted on TW forums but nobody tried it (nobody metioned they tried), maybe because it's take time to make. When on food + massage method, it's better to use something simple and easy to get so you can stick with it. Nothing will make us grow fast, coz it's takes time and patience. I will find time to translate those two recipes and post them on food and drink page (if I find out what "chin-yi" is, I have no idea what it is.) Good luck on boobie journey!! :-)
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Unread postApr 11, 2008#65

I think you can just start with what you listed, should be good. If you don't have cramps during periods and cold hands and feet, it might just work with massage + good nutritions. Maybe you can add soy milk? avocado and asparagus are good, too. Borage oil and royal jelly seem to work for lots of girls on TW forums, if you like sea foods, clams, oyesters, shrimps will be great (once a week should be good, just go to a buffet and get your money worth)

As I remember, royal jelly are recommend 4000mg daily (be4 bed)on TW forum, but there were some girls only take 2000mg and got growth. I don't know if it's ok to take that much, though. Hope you do some reseach on that. ( I think I tried 2000mg royal jelly when I hit the stall last time, got some fluctuations, I didn't take it for long I think, just not a pill-popping-person, hoho) I do remember there were girls said that they respond to royal jelly fast on the Aphrodite's forum. Worth a try I guess. Hope this helps. :-)
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Unread postApr 22, 2008#66

Hi Fengshui

Thanks for your programme, it is very helpful. I am really interested in Chi Massage, I've found there are many girls have successfully enlarged their breasts through Chi Massage, I would like to try it as I am a slow grower, and thought it might help to succeed my C cup dream easier and sooner. I've tried to understand the chi massage steps which you posted on your programme, however I've found it hard to understand the technique without any pictures guide as my English is not good enough, just see if you have a link to check out?

I am really desperate, please help......
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Unread postApr 23, 2008#67

I didn't use "chi" massage, I use knuckles massage and there is no picture links, sorry. Because I learned the massage method from TW forums and some I came up myself. But the idea kinda came from "pansyclub" massage. If you check both links maybe you'll get a better idea of how to do it.

My massages:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/486111/t ... of+MASSAGE

Pansyclub massage:
http://www.breastnexus.com/p-massage.html

Hope this helps. :-)
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Unread postApr 24, 2008#68

Hi Fengshui

I am greatly appreciated for your advice. I remember you said it took you about 2 months to see initial result, what cup size are you now? How long does it take you to achieve the size you are having now?
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Unread postApr 24, 2008#69

I think I am 34 D now, but it still veries from bras. I fit all the 34 D 1/2 or 2/3 cups, 34 C soft cups (my boobs will snug out on top) don't fit 34 C hard cup at all.

It has been a long time, can't really remember. I think it took me 2 months to see better shape, six months to be a small D, somthing like that. I am a bit bigger on top now then after I stopped my programme due to weight gained I believe. (7 lb.)
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Unread postApr 26, 2008#70

Hi Fengshui

Wow congrats to your result, D cup is great, I wish I could grow mine boobs in short 6 months like you, but I believed I'm an extremely slow grower, it's gonna to be a long journey for me.

The thing worries me most is weight gain, I've gained 2 kg within 2 weeks when I first started NBE........Anyway today is exactly one month into NBE, I haven't gain anymore weight so far, and I hope I won't.

I was wondering do you experience any growing pain or tingling at all while your boobs are growing?

I didn't gained much weight when I was on my NBE programme, because I didn't change my diet much (only tried to avoid no no foods), I had my boobies soups at lunch.

I don't remember ever feel pain or tingling, though. But I did grew.

Hi Fengshui

I really don't know why I put on so much weight in a short 2 weeks as I am hardly ever put on weight, I didn't change my diet, except I started to drink no fat soy milk since I start to take PM, I guess it might cause weight gain????? I started to walk at least 30mins 5 days a week now hopefully I will be back to 42kg soon.

Could you please tell me how to make home-made soy milk? I live in Australia, I can't get soy milk machine, I was wondering can I use blender? (Hope I could get more protein out of home-made soy milk but without gaining weight)

I started the pressure points breast massage with knuckle couple of days ago, refer to Tigerlily explanation of massage techniques, she said need to push down deeply but I found it is very painful, it is normal? or I might have blockages?
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Unread postApr 27, 2008#73

Hi Fengshui

Sorry I forgot to ask, Do you know what is Borage oil? Thanks
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Unread postApr 28, 2008#74

There are some girls gain weight from herbs, you can search the forum to see if there is anything you may add to avoid it.

Here is a video link for homemade soy milk, you can also google it for some different recipes. Some westeners don't like the true soy taste (though I love it myself).

http://www.ifood.tv/recipe/homemade_soymilk

You may have blockages or you may do it too hard. Try to do a bit lighter massage until you gradually get use to it.

Borage oil is a supplement contains omega 6 and GLA, see this link.

http://www.puritansale.com/pages/file.a ... &CPID=1190

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Unread postApr 28, 2008#75

Hi Fengshui

Thank you so much for all of your info, I am greatly appreciated for your help!

I used to love drinking Asian soy milk (the sweet one) from the cafe in HK & TW, but I can't drink it anymore cos it just too sweet for me now, I am drinking western soy milk from the supermarket which is no taste, I probably love the real taste of home-made soy milk.

I was wondering have you heard of UNT skincare from TW? I have some pigmentation on my left boob and a bit on my left nipple after childbirth which made my breasts look uneven (one look bigger than the other, but they actually same size), therefore I search for some good whitening products, then I found UNT official website, it's look and sounds good, I would like to try their EX White for the pigmentation for my breast and Plush Blush for my nipples, what do you think of their products?

Sorry for asking too much +_+

No problem.
I have lived in U.S. for 13 years, so I have never heard of UNT skincare. I gooled it from a TW's forum, you can check the link see what TW girls say about the products.

http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/Forum/07 ... =2&Key=UNT

Or you may ask question on the forum.
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Unread postApr 29, 2008#77

Fengshui... do you think you could use the soup as bases for other foods? I haven't started making the soup but I think I may get sick of having it everyday. Do you think I can use the soup to make congee or something like that? Would it work just as well as having the soup on its own?
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Unread postApr 29, 2008#78

Sure you can. Actually that's exactly what I meant and have been doing.
Use chicken feet BROTH to make any soups you like.
On my second round, I don't eat the feet any more (just tired of it now), so when I make the feet broth, I cook a lot longer (2~3 hrs.)to make sure that I get most of gelatin/collagen out of the feet, then discard the feet, use the broth as base to make different soups.

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Unread postMay 01, 2008#79

Hi Fengshui

I am a good cook, however I am not good at making soups, but I am very lucky, my dad is a chef, I asked my dad to cook some chicken feet soup for me, then he made a big pot of Traditional Cantonese Chicken Feet Soup for me, it about 5-6 days worth, I have been having the soup for the last 2 days, it was so yummy...the soup contains chicken feet, papaya and peanuts. Do you think these ingredients are good combinations?

Where can I get Borage oil? Does it has other names?
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Unread postMay 01, 2008#80

the soup contains chicken feet, papaya and peanuts are really great combinations!! You are lucky to have a dad who is a chef!! :-)

Just some suggestions, when you are tired of the plain soup, you can use the feet broth to make egg drop soup, wonton soup, beggi soup, noodle soup,....you know, pretty much any soup using the broth.

Borage oil is starflower oil, you should be able to find it at health stores, even supermarkets.

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