(29-01-2020, 04:26 AM)tabbycat Wrote: [ -> ] (04-01-2020, 03:50 PM)surferjoe2007 Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah countless women have. You can try looking through the forum history. I wouldn’t even consider 32d to 32f to be huge growth. Decent, but not huge. Many have done much more.
Difficulty varies from person to person but usually if you have something to start with like 32c or 32d you’ll have a much easier time. Especially if you already responded to a single herb.
3 x 550 mg PM is a crazy amount of PM. You might even grow more from using less. But I think the best approach would be a balanced approach:
- Cycle 1x 550 mg PM with 1/2 tsp PC. Since you already responded well to PM you might try a little more PM and/or a little less PC. If you don’t know how to cycle then try a forum search. Maybe increase both a little eventually, not right away. And more than this amount isn’t necessarily better.
- 3x 600 mg *50% saponin* shatavari extract. You might try 4-5 later on, which may or may not help more.
- 320 mg saw palmetto *extract*
- 3,000 mg MSM. Or a 11-12g scoop of collagen powder.
I think that will probably get you to your goal or a little further. If you want you may add other things like massage, flax seeds, pumping, or whatever else. And/or tips in my sig. But I think that’s enough already in your situation. 32c to start and already grew from an improper amount of just one herb is one of the easier situations.
If you really want to go all out and grow more than that then see nutrition tips in my sig. You may be able to do 2 PM capsules now or after a while. Likewise maybe or maybe not a little more PC. You can search the forums for info on mk-677. Missmadscientest did use it. You can massage and/or pump a bit. Maybe or maybe not use up to 6-7 shatavari (again, more than 3 may or may not help more). You can try a firming lotion for maybe half a size. Massage with fresh or frozen aloe (never old and bottled) aloe may or may not help.
Regardless be patient for a few months with any program. Measure and take pics for yourself (same pose, position, lighting) so you can notice slow gradual changes.
Thank you so much!! I will do some research on the method you listed above ... I am currently on the implant birth control (progestin only) so I don’t know if I need PC (that is the cream, right?) It has taken my period away entirely :/ Also joe, do you know how long it’ll take to experience the growth using your method? I seem to be fluctuating a lot, now between a 32C and 32D...plus I fluctuate in weight a little.
Do you know what the size in the picture is by any chance ? That is what I was thinking of going to as my goal size So I’ll change it in my sig if it’s different 
that model is super petite and has a small frame (I do too) but her body (smaller frame with large breasts)
Since you are on progestin birth control you don't need progesterone cream, correct. Since you don't have a period that also means you don't have to cycle PM. You can take it every day if you want. As it so happens many women have gotten huge rapid growth from progestin birth control + PM. And other phytoestrogens often aren't strong enough so I'd suggest sticking with PM. But 3 capsules is probably too much, not only for possible negative effects but also you might grow more with 1 or 2 capsules. The most important thing for both goals, growth and preventing negative effects, is to keep progestin/progesterone and PM balanced. That's because most negative effects (and lack of growth response too) are from a hormonal imbalance. Besides trying a smaller amount before trying a larger amount, once you do try a larger amount if it is less effective you might test out increasing progesterone instead of decreasing PM. For that you would add a small amount of progesterone cream on top of your birth control. Perhaps only 1/4 tsp a day to start. Likewise you would use it all month without cycling it. But again balancing it out is a guessing game, and first you want to try 1 or 2 capsules of PM without any PC. Then gradually test out increasing either PM or PC one at a time. Long term at the very most you may or may not do 3 capsules of PM, and probably (only guess and test will confirm) that much would require some PC on top of your BC. Or you might find it best to max out at 2 capsules. Like I said, 3 is a lot for PM, unlike other herbs. Combining this with the other items I mentioned is likely to be even more effective and give you some major growth. Possibly tremendous growth. It's hard to say how quickly but often women grow within 3-4 months. I think with a good amount of every item mentioned and 2 capsules of PM you might experience growth in 1 month or less. But that's not always the case as different women are different, and there's no need to rush it; you can start with the smaller amounts mentioned and feel it out as you work your way up. And among those same women with huge rapid growth from progestin + PM, those using depo provera (AFAIK the strongest progestin with the most side effects) and/or lots of PM often maxed out quickly too, and also often took breaks due to the negative effects. All the more reason for a more balanced and varied approach, to get easier and more long term growth.
Or if you don't want major growth the other herbs also help your health and hormonal balance, so it would be better to use more of them and less PM if anything. I would still use at least 1 capsule of PM to balance out your birth control. A large amount of soy and flax may or may not be enough to balance out a progestin birth control strong enough to stop your period. They are much weaker than PM.
As for the picture I can only guess but the picture looks like 32E or 32F to me. But she's so skinny it might actually be 30F/G or 28G/H. Same volume but a smaller band with equal volume means a larger cup. If you are likewise skinny then you may want to measure in case a smaller band and larger cup fits better. For example 30E.
Adjusted program, IMO to reach the size in the pic or 1-2 sizes larger in a few months:
- 1x 550 mg PM. Every day, not cycled.
- 3x 600 mg *50% saponin* shatavari extract.
- 320 mg saw palmetto *extract*
- 3,000 mg MSM. Or a 11-12g scoop of collagen powder.
- Give it 3-4 months for results before trying something else, if it doesn't work out. But I think it will work, especially since you already had results from excessive PM. And possibly sooner than 3-4 months. Measure and take pics for yourself just in case changes are too gradual to see.
Optionally for more & faster growth (sorted easiest to hardest):
- Go up to 4-6x shatavari, which may or may not help more than 3x. This is probably the easiest and one of the safest ways to ramp up.
- Gradually go up to 2-3x 550 mg PM. Which may or may not help more. Also experiment with 1/4-1/2 tsp PC a day, also every day and not cycled. Which may or may not help more. Find the ideal for each, remembering that more PM often but not always requires more PC (if any PC is needed at all).
- Maybe Mk-677. But read up a lot about it, because while it looks ok so far, it is a drug that is not fully tested. And it might only add a little growth.
- Nutrition tips in sig thread (first link, and also end of the first link inside that post). Both to increase growth and reduce/eliminate negative effects from PM (if any) and birth control. Especially if using more than 1-2 capsules PM. And most of all for overall health. This is the #1 safest and healthiest option.
- Massage and/or pumping, time permitting. At least a little massage can be good for health. A lot of both can yield good results with rarely any negatives, but takes a lot of work to grow and maintain.
- Maybe fresh or frozen aloe (not room temp bottled). May build collagen for added size and lift. Limited info on how much it helps or if it helps. Room temp bottled aloe is almost certainly no better than a moisturizer, because all the good stuff degraded long ago.