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Hi guys! I started using pm two weeks ago. I'm using biovea pm, I live in Germany and they ship here without a problem. The thing is I'm taking 1000 mg now and I see no result at all. From my trying around I noticed that I seen to react well to estrogens and had great swelling from hops capsules, so I wanted to try something stronger. I feel like that pm is probably not the real deal. I searched the forum and didn't find much about biovea pm, anyone who has tried it? 

Thanks guys Smile
Hey! I live in Germany and used biovea PM too. I’m sure it isn’t rich of isoflavones, they recommend 2 pills each day without cycling. 
I saw swelling and growth in boobs (not so much but I took it for only a month) then I quit because of my bottom-body growth rather a boob growth.
I also see a PM cream on biovea but never tried it. 

Right now I realize that ainterol ships also in Europe without hight shipping cost. I’m sure biovea is not the best PM you can try. If u can,try an other brand.
(20-10-2018, 10:19 AM)Cely Wrote: [ -> ]Hey! I live in Germany and used biovea PM too. I’m sure it isn’t rich of isoflavones, they recommend 2 pills each day without cycling. 
I saw swelling and growth in boobs (not so much but I took it for only a month) then I quit because of my bottom-body growth rather a boob growth.
I also see a PM cream on biovea but never tried it. 

Right now I realize that ainterol ships also in Europe without hight shipping cost. I’m sure biovea is not the best PM you can try. If u can,try an other brand.

Hi cely! Where did you find ainterol with shipping to Germany? I tried to order off the official website and at checkout it said that the delivery to my location is not possible
Ainterolherbs.com 

I didn’t place an order, but I try to see how much the shipping cost (it’s 5,xx. With the only shipping method available)

I also like reviews of purafem, I just try to place an order and it ships worldwide.

Right now i’m Not sure if I want to try PM pills again.
(20-10-2018, 10:05 AM)Minimi8 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi guys! I started using pm two weeks ago. I'm using biovea pm, I live in Germany and they ship here without a problem. The thing is I'm taking 1000 mg now and I see no result at all. From my trying around I noticed that I seen to react well to estrogens and had great swelling from hops capsules, so I wanted to try something stronger. I feel like that pm is probably not the real deal. I searched the forum and didn't find much about biovea pm, anyone who has tried it? 

Thanks guys Smile

I wished I had read your post earlier. I ordered a four month supply of PM from Biovea and as you said, its not working atall. I am having 500mg x 2 daily and no effect whatsoever Sad
I am planning on ordering PM loose powder from a German company ... any suggestions.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00MCC0126/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3QCNRBP1CPGQ6&psc=1
(21-02-2019, 08:51 PM)mausmi Wrote: [ -> ]
(20-10-2018, 10:05 AM)Minimi8 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi guys! I started using pm two weeks ago. I'm using biovea pm, I live in Germany and they ship here without a problem. The thing is I'm taking 1000 mg now and I see no result at all. From my trying around I noticed that I seen to react well to estrogens and had great swelling from hops capsules, so I wanted to try something stronger. I feel like that pm is probably not the real deal. I searched the forum and didn't find much about biovea pm, anyone who has tried it? 

Thanks guys Smile

I wished I had read your post earlier. I ordered a four month supply of PM from Biovea and as you said, its not working atall. I am having 500mg x 2 daily and no effect whatsoever Sad
I am planning on ordering PM loose powder from a German company ... any suggestions.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00MCC0126/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3QCNRBP1CPGQ6&psc=1

Have you tried lowering your dose maybe with high doses your down regulating your e receptors
(21-02-2019, 09:00 PM)Bonny Wrote: [ -> ]
(21-02-2019, 08:51 PM)mausmi Wrote: [ -> ]
(20-10-2018, 10:05 AM)Minimi8 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi guys! I started using pm two weeks ago. I'm using biovea pm, I live in Germany and they ship here without a problem. The thing is I'm taking 1000 mg now and I see no result at all. From my trying around I noticed that I seen to react well to estrogens and had great swelling from hops capsules, so I wanted to try something stronger. I feel like that pm is probably not the real deal. I searched the forum and didn't find much about biovea pm, anyone who has tried it? 

Thanks guys Smile

I wished I had read your post earlier. I ordered a four month supply of PM from Biovea and as you said, its not working atall. I am having 500mg x 2 daily and no effect whatsoever Sad
I am planning on ordering PM loose powder from a German company ... any suggestions.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00MCC0126/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3QCNRBP1CPGQ6&psc=1

Have you tried lowering your dose maybe with high doses your down regulating your e receptors

I started with 100 mg (Swansons brand) because I was concerned about its effects on menstruation. I upped my dose to 200 mg. No change. Then I place an order with Biovea. Again I started with 500 mg and moved up to 1000 mg. No effects. Two unsuccessful months.
Planning on switching to Purafem or something else. Still contemplating.
Thanks
(21-02-2019, 09:21 PM)mausmi Wrote: [ -> ]
(21-02-2019, 09:00 PM)Bonny Wrote: [ -> ]
(21-02-2019, 08:51 PM)mausmi Wrote: [ -> ]
(20-10-2018, 10:05 AM)Minimi8 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi guys! I started using pm two weeks ago. I'm using biovea pm, I live in Germany and they ship here without a problem. The thing is I'm taking 1000 mg now and I see no result at all. From my trying around I noticed that I seen to react well to estrogens and had great swelling from hops capsules, so I wanted to try something stronger. I feel like that pm is probably not the real deal. I searched the forum and didn't find much about biovea pm, anyone who has tried it? 

Thanks guys Smile

I wished I had read your post earlier. I ordered a four month supply of PM from Biovea and as you said, its not working atall. I am having 500mg x 2 daily and no effect whatsoever Sad
I am planning on ordering PM loose powder from a German company ... any suggestions.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00MCC0126/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3QCNRBP1CPGQ6&psc=1

Have you tried lowering your dose maybe with high doses your down regulating your e receptors

I started with 100 mg (Swansons brand) because I was concerned about its effects on menstruation. I upped my dose to 200 mg. No change. Then I place an order with Biovea. Again I started with 500 mg and moved up to 1000 mg. No effects. Two unsuccessful months.
Planning on switching to Purafem or something else. Still contemplating.
Thanks

I think your patience may be the ingredient your missing lol, are you starting small?  If so don't expect big things in 2 months, generally only seen some with decent amount of tissue respond quickly to PM.  

Re; down regulation; (if your not sure what it means)
Your body will shut down the receptors as it sense too much in the body; so if this is happening then adding more on top won't change anything you'll just have more E floating around your body potential for E Dominance and/or excess getting excreted by the body. 

Good luck
(22-02-2019, 03:20 AM)Bonny Wrote: [ -> ]
(21-02-2019, 09:21 PM)mausmi Wrote: [ -> ]
(21-02-2019, 09:00 PM)Bonny Wrote: [ -> ]
(21-02-2019, 08:51 PM)mausmi Wrote: [ -> ]
(20-10-2018, 10:05 AM)Minimi8 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi guys! I started using pm two weeks ago. I'm using biovea pm, I live in Germany and they ship here without a problem. The thing is I'm taking 1000 mg now and I see no result at all. From my trying around I noticed that I seen to react well to estrogens and had great swelling from hops capsules, so I wanted to try something stronger. I feel like that pm is probably not the real deal. I searched the forum and didn't find much about biovea pm, anyone who has tried it? 

Thanks guys Smile

I wished I had read your post earlier. I ordered a four month supply of PM from Biovea and as you said, its not working atall. I am having 500mg x 2 daily and no effect whatsoever Sad
I am planning on ordering PM loose powder from a German company ... any suggestions.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00MCC0126/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3QCNRBP1CPGQ6&psc=1

Have you tried lowering your dose maybe with high doses your down regulating your e receptors

I started with 100 mg (Swansons brand) because I was concerned about its effects on menstruation. I upped my dose to 200 mg. No change. Then I place an order with Biovea. Again I started with 500 mg and moved up to 1000 mg. No effects. Two unsuccessful months.
Planning on switching to Purafem or something else. Still contemplating.
Thanks

I think your patience may be the ingredient your missing lol, are you starting small?  If so don't expect big things in 2 months, generally only seen some with decent amount of tissue respond quickly to PM.  

Re; down regulation; (if your not sure what it means)
Your body will shut down the receptors as it sense too much in the body; so if this is happening then adding more on top won't change anything you'll just have more E floating around your body potential for E Dominance and/or excess getting excreted by the body. 

Good luck

I hear you. Thanks!

However, this is my 8th month. Tried herbs before and they didnt seem to work. Then I switched to PM after a cleanse. I should add that I was breastfeeding last year until April. Not sure if this has got anything to with no response from either (herbs).
Maybe I should just reset... but I had no sensations with either herbs (FG & PM)
(23-02-2019, 12:10 AM)mausmi Wrote: [ -> ]
(22-02-2019, 03:20 AM)Bonny Wrote: [ -> ]
(21-02-2019, 09:21 PM)mausmi Wrote: [ -> ]
(21-02-2019, 09:00 PM)Bonny Wrote: [ -> ]
(21-02-2019, 08:51 PM)mausmi Wrote: [ -> ]I wished I had read your post earlier. I ordered a four month supply of PM from Biovea and as you said, its not working atall. I am having 500mg x 2 daily and no effect whatsoever Sad
I am planning on ordering PM loose powder from a German company ... any suggestions.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00MCC0126/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3QCNRBP1CPGQ6&psc=1

Have you tried lowering your dose maybe with high doses your down regulating your e receptors

I started with 100 mg (Swansons brand) because I was concerned about its effects on menstruation. I upped my dose to 200 mg. No change. Then I place an order with Biovea. Again I started with 500 mg and moved up to 1000 mg. No effects. Two unsuccessful months.
Planning on switching to Purafem or something else. Still contemplating.
Thanks

I think your patience may be the ingredient your missing lol, are you starting small?  If so don't expect big things in 2 months, generally only seen some with decent amount of tissue respond quickly to PM.  

Re; down regulation; (if your not sure what it means)
Your body will shut down the receptors as it sense too much in the body; so if this is happening then adding more on top won't change anything you'll just have more E floating around your body potential for E Dominance and/or excess getting excreted by the body. 

Good luck

I hear you. Thanks!

However, this is my 8th month. Tried herbs before and they didnt seem to work. Then I switched to PM after a cleanse. I should add that I was breastfeeding last year until April. Not sure if this has got anything to with no response from either (herbs).
Maybe I should just reset... but I had no sensations with either herbs (FG & PM)

Not sure if you've seen my thread 

https://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=29218

You may find a few tips that could help? 

Breastfeeding means your prolactin would of been high and nbe pretty pointless. You need prolactin for nbe but if its too high then its counterproductive for nbe to be sucessful. 

Its super hard to be patient and if starting small below A then it can take some time to see any growth, be sure to keep good nutrition as you need it for growing successfully, you cant bake a cake without all ingredients! 

Wink
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