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Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job
June 28 2006 at 9:16 AM Sally Anne (Login sally.anne)
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Lucille says that with her new implants she is now a 32D and finally happy with her breasts. I don't know if this is known already and old news to the rest of you, but I have only just found out about it myself.
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Meg
(no login) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 28 2006, 1:20 PM
Hello, I have been looking to read about Lucille Sorella since you mentioned surgery and I can't find anything on the net about her outside of the website. (i'm not saying I don't believe you, I was just interested to read more.) I've only just discovered her book and am considering buying it, It's the only book i can find, I want to understand the science and know exactly what i'm doing to my body with all these herbs!
Know any other books? Authors?
Anonymous
(no login) what !!! June 28 2006, 1:46 PM
wher did that info come from ?????
Eve M
(Login EveEM)
Eve M Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 28 2006, 5:30 PM
I assure everyone that the story is correct and the source of the information is Lucille herself.
pansyclub
(Login pansyclub) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 28 2006, 5:40 PM
she said before that even if the NBE works for her, she will probably get a boob job later, cause she wants even bigger boobs. So I'm not that surprised.
Sally Anne
(Login sally.anne)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 29 2006, 5:25 PM
That's true pansyclub. I remember she said a long time ago that she was considering it, even though nbe had worked for her.
verlinda
(Login verlinda) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 29 2006, 7:20 PM
I can't blam her. If I could chunk up the $$$$$ for a B(.)(.)B job. I know I would go for it.
but that don't mean that NBE isn't worth a shot.
Anonymous
(no login) how????? June 30 2006, 10:03 AM
how did you find out about it please ???
Sally Anne
(Login sally.anne)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 30 2006, 12:14 PM
Personally I think her boobs are too big now, but maybe that's just me and everyone else likes them.
pansyclub
(Login pansyclub) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 30 2006, 12:53 PM
wow, they look very natural.
the size is good. 32D is my goal, but I will never get a boob job.
SugarQ
(Login SugarQ)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 1 2006, 5:50 PM
im so happy that lucille finally achieved her goal even though it wasnt through natural means. but its i personally would rather be flat then have fake breasts. i really dont see implants as being anything more then prosthetics under the skin. i dont feel it anything to be proud, its not a big achievement nor is it anything special. Not everybody gets results like lucille got with NBE. that something the be proud about. but anyone can scrabble around and find 6000 bucks, go to a doc and have their chest cut up then stuffed.
when you got implants its not you. its not a part of you.you take an xray and you go this huge ugly mass that lights up brighter then a christmas tree. you die and while the rest of you rots all thats left are these two sacs left behind. i know that breast enlargement procedures are safer and less invasive but at the end of the day you are still walking around with fake boobs. you are still an AA or a B even if you are the only one that knows it.
i dont mean to be crule or rude to all those to choose implants but it seems to me that people starting to prefer being fake and plastic just to fool a stupid world that considers an A too small or wrinkles at 40 are too early and a nose job is a must if you want to be considered a one of the Jacksons. people are starting to look more like each other instread of just being unique. i believe that if you are a person that doesnt have any noticably seriouse flaws and you get even the smallest cosmetic procedure you are still buying into all the hype especially if you can live happily without doing anything to yourself. i would rather be healthy at 60 then to look pretty at 60 but i find more and more people feel the opposite.
50 years ago most people wouldnt even consider cosmetic surgary. it was unacceptable and now look at us. we got girls as young as 9 and 10 begging their partent for a boob job and nose job and more surprising they are actually getting them. right now we have the technology to eliminate genetic illnesses in babies before they were even concieved(im not complaining about that though but what we do with such awesome technology is just disgusting). we can also choose a child's sex, prevent a child being born def or (as some people have done for some sick reason) create a def child. we will be able to choose eye color, hair color, attractive features. so one day kids can easily be born looking less and less like their parents. right now this kindod use of technology is considered unacceptable but in 50 years it will probably be standard practice. the development of cosmetic surgary when it was first starting to be developed wasnt to make people in their 50s look like they were still in their 30s. there was a practical and seriouse use of this field in medicine. but like everthing that is created by GOD and man, it gets abused by greedy,self- centered people.
lucille looks absolutly fabulouse with her new breasts. she looked amazing with her 32B. she's an adult and has every right to do as she feels fit with herb body. she put alot of time and dedication into NBE and she deserved, by now, to finally be done with her booby quest. its just a shame that small but amazing improvements never seem to be enough these days.
sorry for the long rant but if it prevents even 1 woman from opting for surgary or at least taking to heart what im saying before going in for implants then it would be worth it. 50 years form now imagine what you would look like with implants. people who get consmetic surgary will either have to do more cosmetic procedures to just to keep looking good enough to be bothering with having implants at 40, 50 60,70 or they end up taking them out and ending up back to square one. people who get consmetic procedures will eventually be back under the knife either way. is it really worth the risk, the money, the pain and the hastle? if yes, then i feel sorry for you. you are obviously are an unhappy person and you are most likely going under the knife for the wrong reasons.
i know NBE can be considered unnessasary and its superficial act to take herbs, risk one's healths for months on end just to achive ,at most, a cup. but at least at the end of it all you are not fake. its all you. and best of all you worked hard for it. there will never be a woman who does NBE, achieve her goals and later on regrets increasing her breasts. it virtually impossible to go through 6 months of a strict and tiring routine and spend hundreds of dolloars just to later regret it if the only thing to be unhappy about is having larger breasts .
good luck to all you ladies. weither or not you choose fake over flesh you are still beautiful and one of GOD's most magnificent creations.
Midnightoil
(Login midnightoil7) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 1:16 AM
If members choice to have a boob job, beware implants are not with out risk. Also think about the implants are filled with, some of the substance you may not want in your body. I also find intrested that lady that trying to sell about book on how grow breast would have implants.
Midnightoil
SugarQ
(Login SugarQ)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 3:36 AM
midnight im so with you. i respect lucille so much and i am one of her bigest fans. she was the reason why i was so interested in NBE and find something that truely worked. when i first found out about her boob job i was a bit upset;im sorry i know i have no right to be but it was a real let down considering everthing she has stood for and acomplished. but lucille did her fair share in contributing to NBE and she should finally have to boobs always wanted. but it does set a bad presendent to all the people who look at lucille now and see someone who had achieved so much would still be so unhappy with her cupsize.i would find it hard to buy a NBE book from someone who opted for implants even after a successful routine. it makes no sense to wast 100-300 bucks on a routine if you, in the end want to go from an A to a D. I really am happy for her through. she looks amazing either way and im probably just whining about her getting implants cause im just jealouse anyways.
Midnightoil
(Login midnightoil7) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 4:39 AM
I have herd many people talk about using the Real method but after hearing about Lucille, I wondering dose any one know if author of real method, really uses her program or has she had a boob job too.
Midnightoil
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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EVE MEMBERS Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 5:37 AM
I'm with you hoEB
If I had the money for implants I would probly get them but still very scary decistion... LOL I know I still cant spell worth a crap.
Love you all!! Take Care and God Bless Lisaxxxx
jellyboobs
(Login jellyboobs)
SENIOR MEMBER me too !!! July 2 2006, 8:34 AM
hi girls, yer i felt upset too, kind of let down its weird !!!! i should be happy for her, anyway ive been doing some thinking when i first looked on the net for BOOBS !!!! implants etc and came across this forum at that stage i felt desperate because i had to go to an event with my wonderful husband to cut a story short it was FULL OF GIRLS WITH BOOB JOBS i thought i was dealing with it ok and my husband was being as reserved as possible when we got home i cried and cried and then was obsessed with getting implants. it recked my love life as i was self concious all of a sudden and sad all the time. my husband said if i wanted to get it done for myself i could but not to do it for him as he loved me the way he married me, i should have been so grateful but then i wanted implants twice as bad cause i love him so much i wanted to please him more than ever. slowly i have let go of this obsession as it scared both of us when we red all the dangers. slowly through this wonderful forum and everyones support i started growing boobs and transformed the way i think about my self! im happy with myself now my boobs look so much better than before and while not being a D cup they are round fuller and all mine and im healthy, also as ive let go of this attatchment my life including my love life with my husband is complete im content love jelly.....
wsdm
(Login wsdm) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 10:25 AM
Jelly what a beautiful post....SugarQ I love your post!
Breast implants are a big NO in my book. I have thought of them but I can’t reconcile having two foreign sacs of synthetic mess on my chest and pretend to pass it of as my own.
In my opinion and my opinion only I think that it is psychologically damaging and to get them is indicative of psychological problems. Don’t get me wrong I don’t really judge anyone for getting them, but for me I know what kind of mental state I would have to be in to get implants and it is not a healthy one at all.
I will just deal with what I have and try my best to improve it naturally. There is a way to improve the breasts naturally people have done it and with more research and study everyone will be able to grow their breast and maintain them.
The problem is there is not enough research and understanding on natural breast enhancement, but look how we are getting results based on the bit of information out there. With more people interested in NBE on a scientific level the better results we can get and expose the charlatans in the NBE industry that are making it hard for NBE.
pansyclub
(Login pansyclub) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 5:53 PM
wsdm, SugarQ: why do u think all the doctors are saiyng NBE is impossible?? They are lying or talking about things they don't know. Maybe they just want more people to have implants so they can make more money?
wsdm
(Login wsdm) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 8:51 PM
In my opinion I believe they don’t know what they are talking about. 4 years of medical school and 2 years of residency does not qualify one to be the beginning and end of all knowledge pertaining to health. It means you know more than the average person.
I think breast implants are a much more profitable BE program because it costs thousands of dollars to get and more to upkeep over the years. Money upon money upon money can be made off of women and their insecurities and it should not be the case at all.
Also stigma in the science industry, who wants to do a dissertation on breast enhancement (besides myself)folks go for so called nobler goals that win or at least put you in the candidacy for a Nobel peace prize or go for disease curing research, which is understandable and respectable ... but WE have NEEDS that I think unfortunately are not being taken seriously enough...
SugarQ
(Login SugarQ)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 3 2006, 1:21 AM
i think WSDM covered everything that i wanted to say about medical professionals. doctors really dont know anything about NBE so its safer for them to say that NBE is impossible and still look smart. even some herbal experts have said that NBE was impossible. there are doctores looking for a more "natural" way to increase breast size but as far as i know the best they have come up with is injecting fat (from another part of your body) in to the breasts with some stem cells. for some reason there has to be some part of a medical procedure invasive to qualify for doctors surgeons to do research and experiment. i think most people wouldnt believe herbs could do anything and they would trust a procedure that injects stuff into your body before resorting to herb.it requires doctors to be a little more hands on and i guess the results after the procedure would be immediate. i believe most of us would opt for that think of injection if it were available and affordable.
herbs and massages dont get the respect they really diserve. doctors know that these herbs have alot of potential but no one whats to see how far and wide their uses can go. instead they want to extract what they need, sythesize their own product that they can then patent and sell for 100 to 1000 times what it cost to get the raw stuff. even with NBE pills, no one wants to do a real, respectable clinical study that would be widely accepted by journals and the medical community. there really is no money in doing that for NBE companies that make herbal pills. im sure most of the companies up and running today dont even know if their products really work but they decided to jump on the NBE bandwagon cause its so popular right now to get their fair share of the pie.
you will also notice that products like the brava are easily accepted by plastic surgeons before NBE herbs are. the domes probably can be made for less then 10 bucks but because of the "technologically advanced" smart box the price for the brava system goes up buy 400 bucks then when you buy the product form a doctor, to make this system seem more credible you you add on between 1000-2000 bucks. as you know the brava has been patented and clincal studies with B/A pictures are available just like you would see before you go in for breast augmentation surgary.
all in all it boils down to money. for 1000s of years the medical community have been twiddling their thumbs and made us do all the heavy lifting, testing and research. you will notice soon enough that they will eventually step in and take herbal NBE a bit more seriously because of us. it will then be "there" discovery cause who would believe a bunch of average joesephines the key to NBE.lol
Tap
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EVE MEMBERS Lucilles boob job July 3 2006, 8:36 AM
My 2 cents... Here's what I find ironic and amusing: That all the women who bought her book, helped finance her boob job! Now that's funny!!!! We are more generous than we know... hehehe!!!
Personally, i am so thrilled to be "growing my own"... my husband told me years ago that under NO circumstance was i ALLOWED a boob job, even if we had truck loads of $$$. We are both enjoying the slow journey of my growing boobage... I'm so incredibly thankful for this forum, which keeps me informed and inspired.
Love Tap
Jacqui
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EVE MEMBERS Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 3 2006, 5:04 PM
I personally think she looked more proportionate as a 32B. And if she is an excercise instructor, well it must be a bit more uncomfortable with those water balloons on, as she called them. It's like she opted out of being a natural beauty and went for a quick Lara Croft fix. Well I suppose there might be money to be made in 'how to look after your implants, but I doubt it, there is already too much on the net about implants, but not enough good validative research on NBE (most still disbelieve)Even if I never get bigger than a B cup, I wouldn't risk my health or the natural feel of my breasts by having implants
Anonymous
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 4 2006, 3:55 AM
I completely agree with you, wsdm. I know my own doctor disapproves of any natural medicine or methods for illnesses and such, and I could easily guess what the look on her face would be if I told her I was growing my breasts with the help of herbs. I suspect too many doctors are trying hard to stay within the book to avoid disappointing their patients (and potential lawsuits!), but everyone needs to be open to the possibility that there are other methods to enlarging one's breasts without the need for implants.
Speaking of implants, they are not an option for me. Even if natural BE did not work, I would not get implants simply because they rarely look natural, and because of the risks of silicone or saline implants. If those who are interested, check out siliconeholocaust.org or breastimplantinfo.org. The photos made me feel physically ill, and stories from these women are heartbreaking. I understanding that implants may be necessary for women who lost a breast or both to cancer, deformities, or other accidents, but to do it for vanity's sake makes me shake my head.
wsdm
(Login wsdm) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 4 2006, 10:43 AM
moonkissed those websites are positively scary!!!After reading them, I cant see how anyone would get implants, its akin to suicide, Russian roulette style.
chocogirl
(Login chocogirl)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 4 2006, 12:09 PM
Well I liked Lucille more with her natural breasts . ..
I am disappointed as she has betrayed our common goal and it seems a bit fake to me to write this book.If she wasn't satisfied with her natural results then why did she write a book to encourage other people follow her methods to become satisfied like her?
Mandy
(Login frankymand) Cured of desire for implants July 4 2006, 2:51 PM
Hi
I have wanted a boob job for as long as I can remember but can't afford one (hence NBE)
I have just looked at those photos on the site Moonkissed posted and I can now say that I am 100% cured of my desire for implants. Those poor poor women.
Even if I win the Lottery I will never have them done now. I would rather have no boobs at all than suffer the pain those women have.
Horrific.
Mandy
faerycat
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 4 2006, 3:35 PM
Yeah, each time I start thinking 'implants' I go here to come back down to earth again -
http://maxpages.com/implants
It really gives food for thought. I mean, I used to think of saline implants as a safe option, but never stopped to think that the saline in encased in silicon in the first place.
Ooooh and the fact that they are porous and filled with bacteria, virus and fungus n stuff. Way too scary!
=^_^= x
Making mountains from molehills.
SugarQ
(Login SugarQ)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 4 2006, 4:24 PM
i remember watching a news report that showed the bad side of implants. one woman showed how they messed up her breasts and her health . her family was by her side the whole time to support her and to see all the pain she had to go through, even today, years later. but guess what? the woman's daughter still opted or implants after she saw what they did to her mother. i was thinking that this girl has got to be the stupidest person. implants nearily killed her mother !!!! if anything my desire to support a products after such a disasterouse event you be down to nill. why put yourself and your mother through that? how her sick mother is now worried that at some point her daughter would get sick like she did.
it really hammers home that some people really dont care about others. they dont care about the pain and the sacrifice that some people had to go through. we look at tragic stories of people who were killed by drunk drivers. how preventable it is. all the warning and laws that are in place for good reason yet there are still people who just dont care.
i watched talk shows where the host was trying to convince some young girls that implants are not what its cracked up to be. the host brought in doctors, patients that have had good and bad experiences, she sited studies, and polls and yet that still doesnt deter these people from getting implants. they already made their minds up a long time ago that this was the way to go. who cares about the women who died, or the caring, disfigurement, the nerve damage, the sickness.... they want implants now and they will worry about the consiquences later.
alot of psycologist want to say its a sickness that these women have. the ones that force themselves not to eat or to eat too much, the ones that cut themselves, the ones that keep getting pastic surgary ever though they really dont need it, the ones that exercise excessivly, people who choose to continue smoking abusing drugs,and alcohol... i really cant imagin being in that state of mind. it like walking slowly off a cliff. you seem to have the capability to stop at any time but something keeps driving these people over the edge. all i know is there are faster and less painful ways to commit suicide instead of forcing all their loved ones to watch then kill themselves slowly. it really is unfair couse as angry as i am right now i still would do anything to help i loved who was in such a situation out.
Jacqui
(no login) Body Dismorphic disorder (BDD) July 5 2006, 1:23 PM
Here's an interesting article http://www.hope4ocd.com/downloads/gorbis...ic0703.pdf, apparently men are just or even more obsessed with thier bodies.These obsessions to change our bodies all fit into BDD, I believe this disorder can only be cured through changing thought processes and negative thought patterns. In a way I think some of us suffer the same disorder,espeacially when some go on to have implants after not being happy with Natural breast growth, and I think having the incorrect mind set can interfere with our herbs or programme. I feel it is vitally important to believe in natural breast growth, throw all schepticism out the window, positive thoughts are a must, love your breasts. It sounds odd but if you look in the mirror while massaging and say, 'oh I still can't see a difference, they're just as small and unimportant', well then I think you have little chance of growth.If you alter your psyche, your thought patterns and turn your attention to loving your breasts, how wonderful they feel when stimulated, how much pleasure they give you etc. It's a bit like any living organism, well let's give an example of a child who recieves no love or positive appraisal, that child will be behind thier peers in growth. A child who mourns the death of a parent can also take longer to grow. I think all too often we can linger on mourning the breasts we never got, espeacially when we see a busty women walking along the pavement and you see your husbands eyes glance a look. This is something I'm working on, now I just try and see all the attractive or interesting features of everyone,we're all unique. In my job I've seen quite a few women without a breast, or both removed. Seeing these women, makes me appreciate my breasts more and love them even more. I've heard some people saying about unblocking your chi, well to me this really means working through any neagativity in our mind or body, and being able to channel positve thoughts about every aspect of ourselves, being able to see wrongs in our behaviour or wellbeing and try and change these things and not allow for others perceptions of reality interfere too much with our own reality.
maylynn
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job April 13 2008, 11:38 AM
i know this post is WAAAY old, but for the newer people i thought that the statements (not just the stuff about lucille, but aslo the stuff about implants) was very important for us ladies to read, i've personally been feeling really down and greatly considering implants, but after reading this old post, i have renewed drive and feel soo much better about my non-existent boobage.
i thoink its very important to read the other ladies' posts about how dangerous and bad implants are.
hope you guys feel the same!
Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job April 13 2008, 12:03 PM
I think Lucille's book is rather outtated on NBE info. In the 2-3 years I've been here I observed a huge progress in theoretical understanding of NBE, updating and improving old practices, banishing a couple of NBE myths and gaining a lot of practical experience. NBE is ''flourishing'' so to say as more and more new people come to this forum. I especially think that the near future of NBE will be experimental and I hope new more alternative techniques will prove to be effective and come into wider use, thus open new possibilities especially for those who don't have sucess with the conventional techniques.
Mango84
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SENIOR MEMBER Virus alert April 13 2008, 8:42 PM
I clicked on that site that is supposed to show her pics...and got a virus. My virus scanner gave me a pop up immediately. So, if you don't have a system that lets you know, and you went to that site, then you may want to run a virus scan.
SereneBlue
(Login SereneBlue) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job April 14 2008, 2:44 AM
Can anyone provide a working link to where Lucille posted this info?
CuteLittleBunnie
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job April 14 2008, 5:35 AM
I don't know what the big hype is about silicone boob jobs, cause seriously if those things break and leak inside of you (and it has happened several times before other women have mentioned on the net) there is going to be some serious problems, not to mention the health issues that go with it. So, I think that NBE is much safer. I will say that my massages I have been doing has been working for me. I am so stoked! I have stopped chocolate and caffine too. So, everything is much better now! Oh, I also have the book by Lucille. Her blog stuff is basically her book. Just my opinion about implants.
Jennelle
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EVE MEMBERS Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job April 14 2008, 8:26 AM
Lucille's boob blog site with her before and after surgery pictures does not exist anymore and the domain has expired.
June 28 2006 at 9:16 AM Sally Anne (Login sally.anne)
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Lucille says that with her new implants she is now a 32D and finally happy with her breasts. I don't know if this is known already and old news to the rest of you, but I have only just found out about it myself.
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Meg
(no login) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 28 2006, 1:20 PM
Hello, I have been looking to read about Lucille Sorella since you mentioned surgery and I can't find anything on the net about her outside of the website. (i'm not saying I don't believe you, I was just interested to read more.) I've only just discovered her book and am considering buying it, It's the only book i can find, I want to understand the science and know exactly what i'm doing to my body with all these herbs!
Know any other books? Authors?
Anonymous
(no login) what !!! June 28 2006, 1:46 PM
wher did that info come from ?????
Eve M
(Login EveEM)
Eve M Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 28 2006, 5:30 PM
I assure everyone that the story is correct and the source of the information is Lucille herself.
pansyclub
(Login pansyclub) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 28 2006, 5:40 PM
she said before that even if the NBE works for her, she will probably get a boob job later, cause she wants even bigger boobs. So I'm not that surprised.
Sally Anne
(Login sally.anne)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 29 2006, 5:25 PM
That's true pansyclub. I remember she said a long time ago that she was considering it, even though nbe had worked for her.
verlinda
(Login verlinda) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 29 2006, 7:20 PM
I can't blam her. If I could chunk up the $$$$$ for a B(.)(.)B job. I know I would go for it.
but that don't mean that NBE isn't worth a shot.
Anonymous
(no login) how????? June 30 2006, 10:03 AM
how did you find out about it please ???
Sally Anne
(Login sally.anne)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 30 2006, 12:14 PM
Personally I think her boobs are too big now, but maybe that's just me and everyone else likes them.
pansyclub
(Login pansyclub) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job June 30 2006, 12:53 PM
wow, they look very natural.
the size is good. 32D is my goal, but I will never get a boob job.
SugarQ
(Login SugarQ)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 1 2006, 5:50 PM
im so happy that lucille finally achieved her goal even though it wasnt through natural means. but its i personally would rather be flat then have fake breasts. i really dont see implants as being anything more then prosthetics under the skin. i dont feel it anything to be proud, its not a big achievement nor is it anything special. Not everybody gets results like lucille got with NBE. that something the be proud about. but anyone can scrabble around and find 6000 bucks, go to a doc and have their chest cut up then stuffed.
when you got implants its not you. its not a part of you.you take an xray and you go this huge ugly mass that lights up brighter then a christmas tree. you die and while the rest of you rots all thats left are these two sacs left behind. i know that breast enlargement procedures are safer and less invasive but at the end of the day you are still walking around with fake boobs. you are still an AA or a B even if you are the only one that knows it.
i dont mean to be crule or rude to all those to choose implants but it seems to me that people starting to prefer being fake and plastic just to fool a stupid world that considers an A too small or wrinkles at 40 are too early and a nose job is a must if you want to be considered a one of the Jacksons. people are starting to look more like each other instread of just being unique. i believe that if you are a person that doesnt have any noticably seriouse flaws and you get even the smallest cosmetic procedure you are still buying into all the hype especially if you can live happily without doing anything to yourself. i would rather be healthy at 60 then to look pretty at 60 but i find more and more people feel the opposite.
50 years ago most people wouldnt even consider cosmetic surgary. it was unacceptable and now look at us. we got girls as young as 9 and 10 begging their partent for a boob job and nose job and more surprising they are actually getting them. right now we have the technology to eliminate genetic illnesses in babies before they were even concieved(im not complaining about that though but what we do with such awesome technology is just disgusting). we can also choose a child's sex, prevent a child being born def or (as some people have done for some sick reason) create a def child. we will be able to choose eye color, hair color, attractive features. so one day kids can easily be born looking less and less like their parents. right now this kindod use of technology is considered unacceptable but in 50 years it will probably be standard practice. the development of cosmetic surgary when it was first starting to be developed wasnt to make people in their 50s look like they were still in their 30s. there was a practical and seriouse use of this field in medicine. but like everthing that is created by GOD and man, it gets abused by greedy,self- centered people.
lucille looks absolutly fabulouse with her new breasts. she looked amazing with her 32B. she's an adult and has every right to do as she feels fit with herb body. she put alot of time and dedication into NBE and she deserved, by now, to finally be done with her booby quest. its just a shame that small but amazing improvements never seem to be enough these days.
sorry for the long rant but if it prevents even 1 woman from opting for surgary or at least taking to heart what im saying before going in for implants then it would be worth it. 50 years form now imagine what you would look like with implants. people who get consmetic surgary will either have to do more cosmetic procedures to just to keep looking good enough to be bothering with having implants at 40, 50 60,70 or they end up taking them out and ending up back to square one. people who get consmetic procedures will eventually be back under the knife either way. is it really worth the risk, the money, the pain and the hastle? if yes, then i feel sorry for you. you are obviously are an unhappy person and you are most likely going under the knife for the wrong reasons.
i know NBE can be considered unnessasary and its superficial act to take herbs, risk one's healths for months on end just to achive ,at most, a cup. but at least at the end of it all you are not fake. its all you. and best of all you worked hard for it. there will never be a woman who does NBE, achieve her goals and later on regrets increasing her breasts. it virtually impossible to go through 6 months of a strict and tiring routine and spend hundreds of dolloars just to later regret it if the only thing to be unhappy about is having larger breasts .
good luck to all you ladies. weither or not you choose fake over flesh you are still beautiful and one of GOD's most magnificent creations.
Midnightoil
(Login midnightoil7) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 1:16 AM
If members choice to have a boob job, beware implants are not with out risk. Also think about the implants are filled with, some of the substance you may not want in your body. I also find intrested that lady that trying to sell about book on how grow breast would have implants.
Midnightoil
SugarQ
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 3:36 AM
midnight im so with you. i respect lucille so much and i am one of her bigest fans. she was the reason why i was so interested in NBE and find something that truely worked. when i first found out about her boob job i was a bit upset;im sorry i know i have no right to be but it was a real let down considering everthing she has stood for and acomplished. but lucille did her fair share in contributing to NBE and she should finally have to boobs always wanted. but it does set a bad presendent to all the people who look at lucille now and see someone who had achieved so much would still be so unhappy with her cupsize.i would find it hard to buy a NBE book from someone who opted for implants even after a successful routine. it makes no sense to wast 100-300 bucks on a routine if you, in the end want to go from an A to a D. I really am happy for her through. she looks amazing either way and im probably just whining about her getting implants cause im just jealouse anyways.
Midnightoil
(Login midnightoil7) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 4:39 AM
I have herd many people talk about using the Real method but after hearing about Lucille, I wondering dose any one know if author of real method, really uses her program or has she had a boob job too.
Midnightoil
Lisa xsxsxs :-)
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EVE MEMBERS Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 5:37 AM
I'm with you hoEB
If I had the money for implants I would probly get them but still very scary decistion... LOL I know I still cant spell worth a crap.Love you all!!
Take Care and God Bless Lisaxxxxjellyboobs
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SENIOR MEMBER me too !!! July 2 2006, 8:34 AM
hi girls, yer i felt upset too, kind of let down its weird !!!! i should be happy for her, anyway ive been doing some thinking when i first looked on the net for BOOBS !!!! implants etc and came across this forum at that stage i felt desperate because i had to go to an event with my wonderful husband to cut a story short it was FULL OF GIRLS WITH BOOB JOBS i thought i was dealing with it ok and my husband was being as reserved as possible when we got home i cried and cried and then was obsessed with getting implants. it recked my love life as i was self concious all of a sudden and sad all the time. my husband said if i wanted to get it done for myself i could but not to do it for him as he loved me the way he married me, i should have been so grateful but then i wanted implants twice as bad cause i love him so much i wanted to please him more than ever. slowly i have let go of this obsession as it scared both of us when we red all the dangers. slowly through this wonderful forum and everyones support i started growing boobs and transformed the way i think about my self! im happy with myself now my boobs look so much better than before and while not being a D cup they are round fuller and all mine and im healthy, also as ive let go of this attatchment my life including my love life with my husband is complete im content love jelly.....
wsdm
(Login wsdm) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 10:25 AM
Jelly what a beautiful post....SugarQ I love your post!
Breast implants are a big NO in my book. I have thought of them but I can’t reconcile having two foreign sacs of synthetic mess on my chest and pretend to pass it of as my own.
In my opinion and my opinion only I think that it is psychologically damaging and to get them is indicative of psychological problems. Don’t get me wrong I don’t really judge anyone for getting them, but for me I know what kind of mental state I would have to be in to get implants and it is not a healthy one at all.
I will just deal with what I have and try my best to improve it naturally. There is a way to improve the breasts naturally people have done it and with more research and study everyone will be able to grow their breast and maintain them.
The problem is there is not enough research and understanding on natural breast enhancement, but look how we are getting results based on the bit of information out there. With more people interested in NBE on a scientific level the better results we can get and expose the charlatans in the NBE industry that are making it hard for NBE.
pansyclub
(Login pansyclub) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 5:53 PM
wsdm, SugarQ: why do u think all the doctors are saiyng NBE is impossible?? They are lying or talking about things they don't know. Maybe they just want more people to have implants so they can make more money?
wsdm
(Login wsdm) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 2 2006, 8:51 PM
In my opinion I believe they don’t know what they are talking about. 4 years of medical school and 2 years of residency does not qualify one to be the beginning and end of all knowledge pertaining to health. It means you know more than the average person.
I think breast implants are a much more profitable BE program because it costs thousands of dollars to get and more to upkeep over the years. Money upon money upon money can be made off of women and their insecurities and it should not be the case at all.
Also stigma in the science industry, who wants to do a dissertation on breast enhancement (besides myself)folks go for so called nobler goals that win or at least put you in the candidacy for a Nobel peace prize or go for disease curing research, which is understandable and respectable ... but WE have NEEDS that I think unfortunately are not being taken seriously enough...
SugarQ
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 3 2006, 1:21 AM
i think WSDM covered everything that i wanted to say about medical professionals. doctors really dont know anything about NBE so its safer for them to say that NBE is impossible and still look smart. even some herbal experts have said that NBE was impossible. there are doctores looking for a more "natural" way to increase breast size but as far as i know the best they have come up with is injecting fat (from another part of your body) in to the breasts with some stem cells. for some reason there has to be some part of a medical procedure invasive to qualify for doctors surgeons to do research and experiment. i think most people wouldnt believe herbs could do anything and they would trust a procedure that injects stuff into your body before resorting to herb.it requires doctors to be a little more hands on and i guess the results after the procedure would be immediate. i believe most of us would opt for that think of injection if it were available and affordable.
herbs and massages dont get the respect they really diserve. doctors know that these herbs have alot of potential but no one whats to see how far and wide their uses can go. instead they want to extract what they need, sythesize their own product that they can then patent and sell for 100 to 1000 times what it cost to get the raw stuff. even with NBE pills, no one wants to do a real, respectable clinical study that would be widely accepted by journals and the medical community. there really is no money in doing that for NBE companies that make herbal pills. im sure most of the companies up and running today dont even know if their products really work but they decided to jump on the NBE bandwagon cause its so popular right now to get their fair share of the pie.
you will also notice that products like the brava are easily accepted by plastic surgeons before NBE herbs are. the domes probably can be made for less then 10 bucks but because of the "technologically advanced" smart box the price for the brava system goes up buy 400 bucks then when you buy the product form a doctor, to make this system seem more credible you you add on between 1000-2000 bucks. as you know the brava has been patented and clincal studies with B/A pictures are available just like you would see before you go in for breast augmentation surgary.
all in all it boils down to money. for 1000s of years the medical community have been twiddling their thumbs and made us do all the heavy lifting, testing and research. you will notice soon enough that they will eventually step in and take herbal NBE a bit more seriously because of us. it will then be "there" discovery cause who would believe a bunch of average joesephines the key to NBE.lol
Tap
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EVE MEMBERS Lucilles boob job July 3 2006, 8:36 AM
My 2 cents... Here's what I find ironic and amusing: That all the women who bought her book, helped finance her boob job! Now that's funny!!!! We are more generous than we know... hehehe!!!
Personally, i am so thrilled to be "growing my own"... my husband told me years ago that under NO circumstance was i ALLOWED a boob job, even if we had truck loads of $$$. We are both enjoying the slow journey of my growing boobage... I'm so incredibly thankful for this forum, which keeps me informed and inspired.
Love Tap
Jacqui
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EVE MEMBERS Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 3 2006, 5:04 PM
I personally think she looked more proportionate as a 32B. And if she is an excercise instructor, well it must be a bit more uncomfortable with those water balloons on, as she called them. It's like she opted out of being a natural beauty and went for a quick Lara Croft fix. Well I suppose there might be money to be made in 'how to look after your implants, but I doubt it, there is already too much on the net about implants, but not enough good validative research on NBE (most still disbelieve)Even if I never get bigger than a B cup, I wouldn't risk my health or the natural feel of my breasts by having implants
Anonymous
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 4 2006, 3:55 AM
I completely agree with you, wsdm. I know my own doctor disapproves of any natural medicine or methods for illnesses and such, and I could easily guess what the look on her face would be if I told her I was growing my breasts with the help of herbs. I suspect too many doctors are trying hard to stay within the book to avoid disappointing their patients (and potential lawsuits!), but everyone needs to be open to the possibility that there are other methods to enlarging one's breasts without the need for implants.
Speaking of implants, they are not an option for me. Even if natural BE did not work, I would not get implants simply because they rarely look natural, and because of the risks of silicone or saline implants. If those who are interested, check out siliconeholocaust.org or breastimplantinfo.org. The photos made me feel physically ill, and stories from these women are heartbreaking. I understanding that implants may be necessary for women who lost a breast or both to cancer, deformities, or other accidents, but to do it for vanity's sake makes me shake my head.
wsdm
(Login wsdm) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 4 2006, 10:43 AM
moonkissed those websites are positively scary!!!After reading them, I cant see how anyone would get implants, its akin to suicide, Russian roulette style.
chocogirl
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 4 2006, 12:09 PM
Well I liked Lucille more with her natural breasts . ..
I am disappointed as she has betrayed our common goal and it seems a bit fake to me to write this book.If she wasn't satisfied with her natural results then why did she write a book to encourage other people follow her methods to become satisfied like her?
Mandy
(Login frankymand) Cured of desire for implants July 4 2006, 2:51 PM
Hi
I have wanted a boob job for as long as I can remember but can't afford one (hence NBE)
I have just looked at those photos on the site Moonkissed posted and I can now say that I am 100% cured of my desire for implants. Those poor poor women.
Even if I win the Lottery I will never have them done now. I would rather have no boobs at all than suffer the pain those women have.
Horrific.
Mandy
faerycat
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 4 2006, 3:35 PM
Yeah, each time I start thinking 'implants' I go here to come back down to earth again -
http://maxpages.com/implants
It really gives food for thought. I mean, I used to think of saline implants as a safe option, but never stopped to think that the saline in encased in silicon in the first place.
Ooooh and the fact that they are porous and filled with bacteria, virus and fungus n stuff. Way too scary!
=^_^= x
Making mountains from molehills.
SugarQ
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job July 4 2006, 4:24 PM
i remember watching a news report that showed the bad side of implants. one woman showed how they messed up her breasts and her health . her family was by her side the whole time to support her and to see all the pain she had to go through, even today, years later. but guess what? the woman's daughter still opted or implants after she saw what they did to her mother. i was thinking that this girl has got to be the stupidest person. implants nearily killed her mother !!!! if anything my desire to support a products after such a disasterouse event you be down to nill. why put yourself and your mother through that? how her sick mother is now worried that at some point her daughter would get sick like she did.
it really hammers home that some people really dont care about others. they dont care about the pain and the sacrifice that some people had to go through. we look at tragic stories of people who were killed by drunk drivers. how preventable it is. all the warning and laws that are in place for good reason yet there are still people who just dont care.
i watched talk shows where the host was trying to convince some young girls that implants are not what its cracked up to be. the host brought in doctors, patients that have had good and bad experiences, she sited studies, and polls and yet that still doesnt deter these people from getting implants. they already made their minds up a long time ago that this was the way to go. who cares about the women who died, or the caring, disfigurement, the nerve damage, the sickness.... they want implants now and they will worry about the consiquences later.
alot of psycologist want to say its a sickness that these women have. the ones that force themselves not to eat or to eat too much, the ones that cut themselves, the ones that keep getting pastic surgary ever though they really dont need it, the ones that exercise excessivly, people who choose to continue smoking abusing drugs,and alcohol... i really cant imagin being in that state of mind. it like walking slowly off a cliff. you seem to have the capability to stop at any time but something keeps driving these people over the edge. all i know is there are faster and less painful ways to commit suicide instead of forcing all their loved ones to watch then kill themselves slowly. it really is unfair couse as angry as i am right now i still would do anything to help i loved who was in such a situation out.
Jacqui
(no login) Body Dismorphic disorder (BDD) July 5 2006, 1:23 PM
Here's an interesting article http://www.hope4ocd.com/downloads/gorbis...ic0703.pdf, apparently men are just or even more obsessed with thier bodies.These obsessions to change our bodies all fit into BDD, I believe this disorder can only be cured through changing thought processes and negative thought patterns. In a way I think some of us suffer the same disorder,espeacially when some go on to have implants after not being happy with Natural breast growth, and I think having the incorrect mind set can interfere with our herbs or programme. I feel it is vitally important to believe in natural breast growth, throw all schepticism out the window, positive thoughts are a must, love your breasts. It sounds odd but if you look in the mirror while massaging and say, 'oh I still can't see a difference, they're just as small and unimportant', well then I think you have little chance of growth.If you alter your psyche, your thought patterns and turn your attention to loving your breasts, how wonderful they feel when stimulated, how much pleasure they give you etc. It's a bit like any living organism, well let's give an example of a child who recieves no love or positive appraisal, that child will be behind thier peers in growth. A child who mourns the death of a parent can also take longer to grow. I think all too often we can linger on mourning the breasts we never got, espeacially when we see a busty women walking along the pavement and you see your husbands eyes glance a look. This is something I'm working on, now I just try and see all the attractive or interesting features of everyone,we're all unique. In my job I've seen quite a few women without a breast, or both removed. Seeing these women, makes me appreciate my breasts more and love them even more. I've heard some people saying about unblocking your chi, well to me this really means working through any neagativity in our mind or body, and being able to channel positve thoughts about every aspect of ourselves, being able to see wrongs in our behaviour or wellbeing and try and change these things and not allow for others perceptions of reality interfere too much with our own reality.
maylynn
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job April 13 2008, 11:38 AM
i know this post is WAAAY old, but for the newer people i thought that the statements (not just the stuff about lucille, but aslo the stuff about implants) was very important for us ladies to read, i've personally been feeling really down and greatly considering implants, but after reading this old post, i have renewed drive and feel soo much better about my non-existent boobage.
i thoink its very important to read the other ladies' posts about how dangerous and bad implants are.
hope you guys feel the same!
Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job April 13 2008, 12:03 PM
I think Lucille's book is rather outtated on NBE info. In the 2-3 years I've been here I observed a huge progress in theoretical understanding of NBE, updating and improving old practices, banishing a couple of NBE myths and gaining a lot of practical experience. NBE is ''flourishing'' so to say as more and more new people come to this forum. I especially think that the near future of NBE will be experimental and I hope new more alternative techniques will prove to be effective and come into wider use, thus open new possibilities especially for those who don't have sucess with the conventional techniques.
Mango84
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SENIOR MEMBER Virus alert April 13 2008, 8:42 PM
I clicked on that site that is supposed to show her pics...and got a virus. My virus scanner gave me a pop up immediately. So, if you don't have a system that lets you know, and you went to that site, then you may want to run a virus scan.
SereneBlue
(Login SereneBlue) Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job April 14 2008, 2:44 AM
Can anyone provide a working link to where Lucille posted this info?
CuteLittleBunnie
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job April 14 2008, 5:35 AM
I don't know what the big hype is about silicone boob jobs, cause seriously if those things break and leak inside of you (and it has happened several times before other women have mentioned on the net) there is going to be some serious problems, not to mention the health issues that go with it. So, I think that NBE is much safer. I will say that my massages I have been doing has been working for me. I am so stoked! I have stopped chocolate and caffine too. So, everything is much better now! Oh, I also have the book by Lucille. Her blog stuff is basically her book. Just my opinion about implants.
Jennelle
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EVE MEMBERS Re: Flat2Fab book: author opts for a boob job April 14 2008, 8:26 AM
Lucille's boob blog site with her before and after surgery pictures does not exist anymore and the domain has expired.