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Hello Everyone,

I am a newbee to NBE (Natural Breast Enhancement) but i have been giving it my very best to research everything about it for a few weeks now (mostly until i couldn’t keep my eyes open) But i found that it took a LOOONG time to find the answers i was looking for so i hope this post will be easily found for new members to get informed about the basics of NBE

If any of the info i have is wrong please feel free to correct it. i am a newbee after all.. most of this information i have come across some reliable websites and some from current members. This is also to help me keep all the information i have gathered in a place i can find Big Grin




What role do Estrogens, testoterones, progesterones, Prolactin and Human Growth Hormone have in Natural Breast Enhancement?

After you read through this you might find it really useful to check your own hormone levels to see where your levels are off (this will be important because it will define what supplements you will benefit from Smile here is a link for an online test which i have found a few times in the forums. i recommend that you go over this a few times until you are sure of your results make the most sense. if you want to be 100% sure you can also order a saliva test which is pricier

John Leemd Hormone test!

Estrogen

Ah, estrogen. Without it, I guess we’d all be walking around with hot flashes all day! It is also the hormone most responsible for breast growth. Actually, estrogen is not a single substance. There are sixty hormones with estrogenic properties swirling through your body at this very moment! The three main estrogen hormones include: estradiol, estrone, and estriol. Estradiol is the strongest. It is produced by the ovaries and it is the hormone that is responsible for breast development. Estrone is a weaker estrogen produced by the ovaries and in fatty tissue. Estriol is the weakest of the three and is made in the body from other estrogens. A girl first begins secreting estrogen between the ages of eight and thirteen, once enough body fat has accumulated. This marks the beginning of puberty. Estrogen causes the uterus, vagina, and Fallopian tubes to grow. It gives us underarm and pubic hair (banishing us to a lifetime of bikini waxes) and encourages fat stores in the lower body to increase. Last but not least, estrogen makes our breasts grow! Once estrogen levels are high enough, ovulation occurs for the first time. This happens when a mature egg is released from an ovary, signifying the start of the menstrual cycle. As an adult, your estrogen levels rise and fall with your periods. At the beginning of the menstrual cycle, hormone levels are very low. When the hypothalamus gland senses that hormones are low, it stimulates the ovaries to begin producing more estrogen. Estrogen is responsible for maturing an egg during the first two weeks of the menstrual cycle. When estrogen levels peak around day twelve, ovulation occurs. As far as natural breast enlargement goes, estrogen is the most important hormone involved. As I’ve already explained, increased amounts of estrogen (or estrogenic substances) lead to breast growth. However, more is not always better. Too much estrogen can overload the body, shutting down estrogen receptors. This process is known as down-regulation.3 If too many estrogen receptors are shut down, your breasts won’t get the message to grow!


Testosterone
Estrogen and testosterone seem about as different as, well, women and men - yet they are intimately connected. The ovaries produce a small amount of testosterone, which is necessary for strong muscles and a healthy sex drive. While men produce around seven milligrams of testosterone per day, a woman normally produces 3/10 of one milligram per day. About 75% of the testosterone that your ovaries produce is converted into estrogen. This conversion process is called aromatase and takes place in your body’s fat cells. Your fat cells create a special substance, called an aromatase enzyme, that converts excess testosterone into estrogen. Finding the right balance between estrogen and testosterone is crucial. Many women actually produce too much testosterone, which can definitely sabotage breast growth. Fortunately, there are plenty of ways to balance testosterone levels so that your breasts are free to grow.


Progesterone
Progesterone is another important breast enlargement hormone. Specifically involved in the formation of the glands, it works alongside estrogen to keeps your female system humming along happily. Progesterone is secreted after you ovulate for the first time - about two years after the onset of puberty. Your body gets the message to produce progesterone each month after an egg is released. Progesterone causes a lining to grow in the uterus; if the egg is not fertilized, the uterine lining breaks down and you get your period. Progesterone is known as the “pregnancy hormone.” During pregnancy, progesterone is produced in very large amounts. It protects and nourishes the growing fetus, strengthens the pelvic walls in preparation for labor, and makes your breasts grow really huge! (Alas, temporarily.) Progesterone and estrogen are considered antagonists, meaning they tend to work against each other. If the level of either hormone gets too high, it will cause the opposite hormone level to fall, just like a seesaw. Your body tries to keep balance by increasing its sensitivity to the lower hormone. This means that high levels of progesterone will cause the body to become more sensitive to the effects of estrogen - and vice versa. Just as the estrogen/testosterone balance is crucial for breast enlargement, so, too, is finding the right balance between estrogen and progesterone. Both hormones are essential, but there is a definite time and place for each one.


Prolactin
Your body generally only secretes prolactin at two specific times: during puberty and during pregnancy. Because it plays such a key role in breast development, though, prolactin is one hormone that you definitely want to get to know. During puberty, prolactin works with estrogen to develop the mammary glands, while increasing the number of estrogen receptors in the breasts. Prolactin also causes the breasts to store fat by increasing the production of lipoprotein lipase (LPL) in your breasts.5 LPL is a “fat storage” enzyme. During pregnancy and while nursing, prolactin controls the production of milk. It is first secreted around the eighth week of pregnancy and peaks at birth. After that, prolactin is only produced according to stimulation - namely, a baby suckling at your nipple. Interestingly enough, you don’t actually have to be pregnant to produce prolactin. Any kind of regular stimulation is usually enough to trigger it. Normally, prolactin is inhibited by a “prolactin inhibiting factor” (PIF), known as the brain chemical, dopamine.6 You’ve probably heard of dopamine before. Besides suppressing prolactin, this chemical is connected to emotions and addictions. Nicotine, cocaine, and other stimulants produce feelings of euphoria by increasing dopamine levels in your brain. But be warned: these drugs are no good for the boobies! Adequate prolactin levels are absolutely crucial for triggering breast growth.


Growth Hormone
Growth hormone, as the name implies, triggers the growth of your body. It also plays a special role in breast development. Growth hormone is so important that it is one of your body’s most plentiful hormones. It is produced by the pituitary gland during the first two hours of sleep. Almost immediately after it’s secreted, growth hormone is converted in the liver into a new, more usable substance known as Insulin like Growth Factor (IGF). Growth hormone could be thought of as your body’s “Master Hormone” since it regulates every other hormone you’ve got. Growth hormone is produced in massive amounts during puberty, promoting the growth of cells, tissues, and organs. Without enough growth hormone, your body - and your breasts - simply wouldn’t grow. As an adult, growth hormone is involved in tissue repair and cell replacement. Unfortunately, growth hormone levels start to plummet after the age of thirty. By the time you hit sixty, your growth hormone level could be 75% lower than it was when you were twenty! Low growth hormone levels are directly responsible for the aging of the body. Breast enlargement requires a lot of growth hormone. You had a ton of it at your disposal during puberty, but if you’re over the age of eighteen, you’re going to have to boost it back up in order to get your breasts to grow again.


The Next post on this Thread will be about the most common Herbs and their assistance in balancing your hormones.. Credit to Isabelle!
Isabelle’s posts helped me SO MUCH! I am still not 100% Sure of everything but i definitely learnt a lot my reading the information on her Program thread (here!)

Now.. im pretty sure i have some understanding now of how herbs are meant to be taken.. The one thing you need to know first is where your hormone levels are at.

(Please add or correct me if i am wrong)

for example my results showed me that i am progesterone deficient and estrogen dominant.. that means that i have to take herbs or sups that will encourage my progesterone levels to even out my Estrogen levels.

so...

the list below was developed by Isabelle, it contains some comments about why she takes certain ones on this list. im sure she wont mind me sharing this awesome list as she always does with others.



Phyto-estrogens:
Phyto-estrogens are plant based estrogens that you can take to increase estrogen levels
fenugreek seed (powdered and whole)
hops fowers (dried, not powdered)
fennel seed (dried and powdered, as tea)
licorice tea (estrogen, prolactin stimulant, anti-androgen, and progestin)
shatavari tea
red clover (because it's also a progestin)
wild yam (not a phyto-estrogen, but a 16α-hydroxyestrone blocker)
pueraria mirifica (too strong, and I have no experience with it)

Zearalenone:
i am not sure what Zearalenone is for, if someone does please colaborate
barley, oats, hops (can contain fusarium)
malt (certainly contains fusarium)
maize, wheat, buckwheat, rye (often contain fusarium)

Phyto-progestins:
I am asuming that these asre to help increase levels in progesterone
licorice tea
fennel seed tea
red clover
PC (cream, only for women who have progesterone deficiency)
"progesterone stops NBE progress dead in its tracks" (Wahaika)

Anti-androgens:
Will help to level out testosterone levels
spearmint tea (peppermint is more estrogenic)
saw palmetto berry
stinging nettle root
pumpkin seed oil
borage seed oil GLA (for hair loss)
Zinc, vitamin B6, and azelaic acid (in rye, barley, whole grain cereals)
Secoisolariciresinol diglucoside (SDG), the main lignan in flax (linseed)
β-Sitosterol (the fytosterol in my SP SNR PSO Java tea formula)
Java tea (orthosiphon extract)
pygeum bark
wild yam (β-sitosterol)

Androgens:
oats stimulate androgen activity! It is an anti-estrogen
maca root boosts testosterone

Prolactin:
fenugreek seed
hops flowers
goat's rue (galega officinalis)
black seed (nigella sativa)
blessed thistle

Human Growth Hormone:
GABA, serotonin (= 5-HTP + Vitamin B6)
glandular therapy (bovine ovary)
pig placenta
lamb placenta
L-tyrosine
bee pollen

Insulin-like Growth Factor 1 (IGF1):
made in the breast tissue
hops flowers
deer velvet extract
glandular therapy (bovine ovary)
pig placenta
lamb placenta

Vitamin B complex:
"super hair formula" multi (> 50 mcg B12)
hair-skin-nails multi (no B12! Use together with meat, fish, dairy)
brewer's yeast

Folic acid:
spinach (preferably frozen), asparagus, broccoli, avocado, lettuce
beremeal
"super hair formula" multi (> 200 mcg B9)

Vitamin C:
"super hair formula" multi 1000 mg
hair-skin-nails multi 160 mg
tablets 70 mg
citrus (because it's an androgen)

Zinc 12-35 mg:
seafood (oysters!), meat, chicken, dairy, oats
hair-skin-nails multi 10 mg
"super hair formula" multi 5 mg
SP SNR PSO Java tea anti-androgen formula 9 mg
never skip a day: the body can't store zinc

Protein:
meat, chicken, fish, eggs
fortify shakes with milk protein powder
soy: slows the thyroid (or take kelp and L-tyrosine with it)

Healthy fats:

borage oil (highest in GLA, prostaglandin precursor)
omega 3 (fish and flaxseed oil, cold pressed = without lignans)
omega 6 can cause acne
evening primrose oil contains less GLA than borage oil, and makes androgen excess worse

Butt:
maca root

Waist hip ratio:
goat's rue (galega officinalis)
black seed (nigella sativa)
wild yam (hypoglycemic, hypolipidemic)

Grow hair nails lashes:
millet, apple core, oats (contain silicic acid)
hair-skin-nails formula (200 mg horsetail, equisetum arvense, contains silicic acid)
gelatin
no MSM
no collagen

The next post will be about individual herb benefits

FENUGREEK SEED EXTRACT

Fenugreek is a unique herb rich in phytoestrogens. Fenugreek aids in hormone production and facilitates the development of the mammary glands that "feed" on estrogens. Trigonelline. This is a key ingredient for breast enhancement. (TOP)



SAW PALMETTO BERRY

Saw Palmetto is a small palm tree with large leaves and large deep red-black berries. Saw Palmetto berries contain an oil that has a variety of phytosterols. Studies have shown Saw Palmetto to successfully reverse atrophy of the mammary gland, which assists breast enhancement. (TOP)



FENNEL SEED

Fennel has long been praised for its abundance of flavonoids. These compounds exert mild estrogenic effects and are completely harmless and non-toxic, resulting in safe breast enhancement. (TOP)



L-TYROSINE

A naturally occurring amino acid, Tyrosine plays an important role in the functioning of the adrenal, pituitary, and thyroid glands, which control hormone production. Some studies suggest that Tyrosine may also stimulate the production of growth hormone, which helps build muscle and reduce body fat. (TOP)



PACIFIC KELP

Kelp is an excellent source of minerals from the sea, including iodine, which is essential for proper thyroid function. (TOP)



DAMIANA LEAF

Damiana is a small shrub high in phytochemicals such as alpha-pinene, beta-carotene, beta-pinene and beta-sisterol. Damiana is primarily used to treat female hormone imbalances. This assists in the natural breast enhancement process. (TOP)



DONG QUAI ROOT

For centuries, this Asian root has been used to treat menopausal symptoms such as hot flashes and cramps. Dong Quai has been shown to assist the body in efficiently using hormones. (TOP)



BLACK COHOSH ROOT EXTRACT

Numerous studies have shown the medical benefits of Black Cohosh. Studies suggest that Black Cohosh is similar to the drugs used in hormone replacement therapy. (TOP)



OAT GRASS

Oat Grass (Avena Sativa) is rich in saponins, flavonoids, minerals, and alkaloids necessary for a healthy hormonal system. (TOP)



BLESSED THISTLE HERB

Blessed Thistle has long been used by women around the world as a hormonal balancing agent. (TOP)



HOPS FLOWER

Hops flower is a shrub rich in flavonoids, whose action in regulating the hormonal production facilitates development of the mammary glands. This is essential for natural breast enhancement. (TOP)
this is a GREAT post you've put together. Thanks for putting this up, wish I would have read this when I was a newb. ^^; It's so hard to find all this information on here without hours of research, it's great that you've put it all in one place.

I can tell most of this stuff comes from Isabelle's posts, she knows so much!
Thanks for your hard work!!!
So glad I stumbled upon this! Thanks so much for your help!
This is very helpful! Thank you! Now I need to find information on recommended dosages.
Do we have an admin or someone that could make this a sticky? Or in some way keep it bumped to the top of the category? Its so hard to sort through the information in this forum and this is definitely on my re-read list!
Just tried the hormone test but what if you get it wrong?
According to that test i have a major hormon imbalance with estrogen. i answered 7 on one section and 8 on another. one was for dormant estrogen the other was excessive estrogen. lmao.
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