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Ok so here's me deal. I'm 19 almost 20 and I literally have a 32A. My bra's have to be 32B because I'm tall, but cup size I'm pretty damn small. I'm 5'10 by the way. My breasts just look underdeveloped. My areolas and nipples are nice but I have no side or top to my boob. I swear they're just pathetic. I've tried so many pills from the internet and nothing works and I'm starting to get a little depressed. But recently I've been reading that lots of women are having success using progesterone cream. I know messing with estrogen is risky so I want to do it right. But honestly I feel like I have defficiency with estrogen. I'm tall, have a slight adam's apple looking thing, and deal with body hair I get those traits from my mom. But I'm 100% woman, and do a lot to make myself look good. But back to the basic, sorry I was rambling.

I heard progesterone works. But how people describe how to use it is all over my head. Like some sort of luteul phase or something when your supposed to use it? And you can't use it every day?

So to sum it all up I need someone to explain me how to use it. In an easy to understand way. Like "Growing Breasts For Dummies" would lol

Thank you so much for any help! Really, I do thank you. Because if there is something I can do make breasts fuller I'll be so much happier with myself and over all. So any help is very appreciated

use it topically on breasts only for 2nd week of follicular phase and all of lut phase for as log as you need to. Goodluck

Hi Brokenangel,

If you are estrogen deficient, then increasing your progesterone would not help with that I think.. Or have I missed something here?

Anyways, a woman's cycle has two phases. The day you get your period is called day 1 of your cycle. The first half of the cycle is called the follicular phase. The second half is called the luteal phase.

During the follicular phase, your estrogen increases until about day 12, then it drops pretty dramatically, which induces ovulation on day 14. All throughout the follicular phase estrogen is higher than progesterone. After ovulation you are in the luteal phase. This is where progesterone is higher than estrogen, but both hormones steadily decrease until you get your period again.

Note that this is if you normally have a 28 day cycle. The luteal phase ALWAYS lasts 14 days. This means that if you have a 30 day cycle f.ex, you have to count back 14 days from when you think you'll get your period to figure out which day you will ovulate, and this means the follicular phase can vary in length. You can also do some sort of temperature monitoring throughout your cycle to see which day you ovulate, but I don't know much about that.

When using herbs and progesterone creams etc, if you want to keep your cycle normal, then you would want to go along with the natural rises and drops in hormones. That's why you want to use the progesterone cream during your luteal phase because that's when it is naturally high in your body. If you are on birthcontrol however, you most likely don't have a cycle (meaning your hormone levels stay pretty much constant except for if you have a week of withdrawal bleeding)

Also I've read that using progesterone cream will sensitize the hormone receptors in the breasts, which is good for boobie-growth.

Also progesterone will grow the glandular parts of your breasts, meaning you get a nice rounded shape, But estrogen grows the milk ducts, giving them a "conical" shape (growth forward)

But again, not sure if you should mess with progesterone if it is estrogen you think you lack.. If you do do this, then you could maybe keep an eye out for the various symptoms of deficiency/dominance. Here Isabelle sums it up quickly
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=9786&pid=35037#pid35037
I think another one for too much prog. is increased irritability

Symptoms of prog. toxicity
http://livingtherhythm.com/?page_id=60

There also this online test thingy that many on here use before they start a NBE program. http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_...etest.html


Anyways, I hope that helped and was easy enough to understand. I know it can be a bit confusing Good luck!

(18-02-2012, 09:59 PM)gilly Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Brokenangel,

If you are estrogen deficient, then increasing your progesterone would not help with that I think.. Or have I missed something here?

Anyways, a woman's cycle has two phases. The day you get your period is called day 1 of your cycle. The first half of the cycle is called the follicular phase. The second half is called the luteal phase.

During the follicular phase, your estrogen increases until about day 12, then it drops pretty dramatically, which induces ovulation on day 14. All throughout the follicular phase estrogen is higher than progesterone. After ovulation you are in the luteal phase. This is where progesterone is higher than estrogen, but both hormones steadily decrease until you get your period again.

Note that this is if you normally have a 28 day cycle. The luteal phase ALWAYS lasts 14 days. This means that if you have a 30 day cycle f.ex, you have to count back 14 days from when you think you'll get your period to figure out which day you will ovulate, and this means the follicular phase can vary in length. You can also do some sort of temperature monitoring throughout your cycle to see which day you ovulate, but I don't know much about that.

When using herbs and progesterone creams etc, if you want to keep your cycle normal, then you would want to go along with the natural rises and drops in hormones. That's why you want to use the progesterone cream during your luteal phase because that's when it is naturally high in your body. If you are on birthcontrol however, you most likely don't have a cycle (meaning your hormone levels stay pretty much constant except for if you have a week of withdrawal bleeding)

Also I've read that using progesterone cream will sensitize the hormone receptors in the breasts, which is good for boobie-growth.

Also progesterone will grow the glandular parts of your breasts, meaning you get a nice rounded shape, But estrogen grows the milk ducts, giving them a "conical" shape (growth forward)

But again, not sure if you should mess with progesterone if it is estrogen you think you lack.. If you do do this, then you could maybe keep an eye out for the various symptoms of deficiency/dominance. Here Isabelle sums it up quickly
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=9786&pid=35037#pid35037
I think another one for too much prog. is increased irritability

Symptoms of prog. toxicity
http://livingtherhythm.com/?page_id=60

There also this online test thingy that many on here use before they start a NBE program. http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_...etest.html


Anyways, I hope that helped and was easy enough to understand. I know it can be a bit confusing Good luck!

It was a lot more easy to understand then others! Thank you! I took the test and that really helped. I only have one more question before I start my program. So, I know to use it during the luteal phase and it's 14 days after your period. But how often are you supposed to use the cream? Every day, every other day, every 4 days? And once the 14 days are up do you stop cold turkey and wait till your luteal phase again? Thanks you again, so MUCH for your help! This is amazing, I hope on my way to better breasts.

I honestly haven't used prog. cream yet, but I'd say just use the instructions that come with it in terms of how much. I'd use it every day, and that's what I've seen others do. I know Ahla used it here, mixing it with l-arginine. http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=9842
She doesn't specify if she stopped cold turkey after her phase, but you could also try and use a lower dose towards the end of the luteal phase to mimic your natural cycle. But yeah, you stop once you get your period, and then you don't use it until your next luteal phase.

thank you so much! You're literally the best! I'll keep you all updated on how my progress goes

I was reading this and had to correct something stated by Gilly.
While a woman's luteal phase will always remain the same length, every woman's luteal phase is not 14 days. It ranges from 10 − 16 days long, the average is 14 days. My cycle is on average 34 days long (16 days for my luteal).

(15-07-2012, 03:32 AM)Brilaw Wrote: [ -> ]I reading this and had to correct something stated by Gilly.
While a woman's luteal phase will always remain the same length, every woman's luteal phase is not 14 days. It ranges from 10 − 16 days long, the average is 14 days. My cycle is on average 34 days long (16 days for my luteal).

I think she said if you have a 28 day period, then the luteal phase will always be 14 days, she said if you have another cycle length to count back from your projected period start date.

I don't think so Em because she said "if you have a 30 day cycle f.ex, you have to count back 14 days from when you think you'll get your period to figure out which day you will ovulate". My point is that this is not true for every woman, definitely not me as I would count back 16 days.

Thanks Brilaw and Emily When I was researching this, I read it to be that the luteal phase is always 14 days long no matter how long your whole cycle is. I'm not sure what is the truth of the matter though, now that you wrote that. It was a rather old book I read it in though, so maybe that research was not updated?