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Hi girls, This is my last chance, herbs don’t work for me. I’m fat and flat, everything i tried made me fatter and increased my cellulite. This is ok for skinny girls, not for my big tights and butt. 
MY program right now is just MSM and vit C. Today is my 3rd day. I read this worked for some girls in the hair forum. 
Right now i’m taking 2000mg of msm and 500 mg of vit c. I’ll increase the dose soon. 
Stay tuned! Smile
(28-07-2018, 06:13 PM)Cely Wrote: [ -> ]Hi girls, This is my last chance, herbs don’t work for me. I’m fat and flat, everything i tried made me fatter and increased my cellulite. This is ok for skinny girls, not for my big tights and butt. 
MY program right now is just MSM and vit C. Today is my 3rd day. I read this worked for some girls in the hair forum. 
Right now i’m taking 2000mg of msm and 500 mg of vit c. I’ll increase the dose soon. 
Stay tuned! Smile

I'm interested in adding msm but for joints/muscle soreness! Definititely I will follow your progress  Tongue

Keep us updated hun!
(28-07-2018, 08:07 PM)sweetorange Wrote: [ -> ]
(28-07-2018, 06:13 PM)Cely Wrote: [ -> ]Hi girls, This is my last chance, herbs don’t work for me. I’m fat and flat, everything i tried made me fatter and increased my cellulite. This is ok for skinny girls, not for my big tights and butt. 
MY program right now is just MSM and vit C. Today is my 3rd day. I read this worked for some girls in the hair forum. 
Right now i’m taking 2000mg of msm and 500 mg of vit c. I’ll increase the dose soon. 
Stay tuned! Smile

I'm interested in adding msm but for joints/muscle soreness! Definititely I will follow your progress  Tongue

Keep us updated hun!

thank u sweetorange. 
right now i'm taking 4000 mg of msm and 1000 mg of vit C. the headache is terrible, i quit with caffeine (it can be worse for my insomnia if i take it with msm) no weird dreams, no other nasty effects.
Today I added spearmint tea to control my androgens.

I read a lot about saw palmetto, but I choose ST rather than saw palmetto for some reasons: I’m a pear shaped women with a lot of cellulite, when you use saw palmetto you block the transformation of testosterone to DHT, but this leads to higher levels of free testo, so more estrone due to aromatase. So more pear shape.
Good news!!! I can’t see the gap in my A cup bra, maybe just a bit. The inches are the same. But I think my boobs are fuller. I wear a 32A. 
No weight gain! 
I’m soooooo happy :Smile

This is just what I think about girls with AA/AAA/AAAA cup: except for girls with anorexia or after pregnancy, less than an A cup is not normal. I read a lot of programs of girls like me but they didn’t claim success. kill you’re androgens away!!! 

If u have an AAA cup but your weight is ok, if u have small and flat nipples like a child, the problem is in your androgens!!! 

Maybe I should try an anti 5ar like evening primrose or saw palmetto.
(19-08-2018, 07:02 PM)Cely Wrote: [ -> ]Good news!!! I can’t see the gap in my A cup bra, maybe just a bit. The inches are the same. But I think my boobs are fuller. I wear a 32A. 
No weight gain! 
I’m soooooo happy :Smile

This is just what I think about girls with AA/AAA/AAAA cup: except for girls with anorexia or after pregnancy, less than an A cup is not normal. I read a lot of programs of girls like me but they didn’t claim success. kill you’re androgens away!!! 

If u have an AAA cup but your weight is ok, if u have small and flat nipples like a child, the problem is in your androgens!!! 

Maybe I should try an anti 5ar like evening primrose or saw palmetto.

SO happy for you !!

Yup, theoretically A-5ar is the way to boost your breast shape. I still thinking in which one to choose tho...

Tongue  Keep going!!
Good news, i’m Growing. 
My next step is to quit spearmint but continue with saw palmetto (I think all my growth is about SP) and MSM.

Well, with SP I have a lot of testosterone but few DHT (remember that DHT is useless in a female, it’s stronger than testosterone and gives you acne and hairy body, it also stop breast growth more than testosterone. Testosterone is not a enemy of a female because aromatase can convert it to estrogens) 
So... 
my idea is to take a pro-aromatase in my follicular (I had a bad experience with PM, so, maybe my own estradiol is better than PM phytoestrogens) 
And than (THANKS SURFERJOE FOR THE SUGGESTION) progesterone cream (but I should study how to use PC) 

I must say i’m Going to the gym everyday and this is GOOD for HGH! So, add work-outs to your routine, I don’t know if it helps NBE but it helps a lot if u don’t want to gain weight in wrong places.

Keep growing!
(04-10-2018, 10:01 AM)Cely Wrote: [ -> ]Good news, i’m Growing. 
My next step is to quit spearmint but continue with saw palmetto (I think all my growth is about SP) and MSM.

Well, with SP I have a lot of testosterone but few DHT (remember that DHT is useless in a female, it’s stronger than testosterone and gives you acne and hairy body, it also stop breast growth more than testosterone. Testosterone is not a enemy of a female because aromatase can convert it to estrogens) 
So... 
my idea is to take a pro-aromatase in my follicular (I had a bad experience with PM, so, maybe my own estradiol is better than PM phytoestrogens) 
And than (THANKS SURFERJOE FOR THE SUGGESTION) progesterone cream (but I should study how to use PC) 

I must say i’m Going to the gym everyday and this is GOOD for HGH! So, add work-outs to your routine, I don’t know if it helps NBE but it helps a lot if u don’t want to gain weight in wrong places.

Keep growing!

Hey Cely! So glad you're growing!

I am using Spearmint currently and I'd like to add anti DHT, maybe red reishi to boost the boob growth. My main question is why will you add pro aromatase to your follicular if you are planning to add PC?


<3
I heard about an anti-estrogenic effect of reishi,so maybe licorice or saw palmetto are better (someone also tells that saw palmetto has an anti-estrogenic propety) 

I want to add estrogens and progesterone because I think i’m Lack of both. Do u agree with me? Or maybe because of my pear shaped body I should use PC only?
(06-10-2018, 10:24 AM)Cely Wrote: [ -> ]I heard about an anti-estrogenic effect of reishi,so maybe licorice or saw palmetto are better (someone also tells that saw palmetto has an anti-estrogenic propety) 

I want to add estrogens and progesterone because I think i’m Lack of both. Do u agree with me? Or maybe because of my pear shaped body I should use PC only?

Reishi is known as an adaptogenic herb overall.

Why do you think you are lack of E and P?
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