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My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007 at 10:21 AM Mousey (no login)
Ok, this is no prank! I am new to this forum so don't know if this topic has been covered. I am French, 30, with no children, married to a very sensual Chinese-American. And I have gone from a B cup to DD in 2 years. How?
My husband has a natural talent for health and natural (intuitive?) medicine, although he does not prefer to work with this. He describes his instinctual abilities as similar to Qigong and Tweena disciplines which is health enhancement through training, massage, as well as herbal/natural food. His great-grand uncle was a apothecary, and inventor of a rare martial art, but he himself is very un-Chinese, so considers much of the information he inherited from his background to be superstition. So when he first told me about this, I thought it was a joke, or a ploy to have me service his sexual needs, but my god, it turned out to be true!
He told me that in Chinese medicine, there is no one size fits all solution, no one magic pill that works for everybody. Chinese medicine is made for the individual; even if 2 people have the same symptoms and same disease, their treatment can be very different depending on a person's chemistry. A Chinese doctor will ask strange questions and even smell a patient to determine his/her physical properties before customizing a herbal concoction.
So here is the thing: he said that men and women need each other for yin and yang balance. He said that the balance is achieved through swopping of bodily fluids among other things. You get the idea? He said if I swallowed a dose of his fluid daily, my breasts would grow and my complexion would be fantastic. He heard that in China/Asia, old prostitutes in desperation to stay young and make firm their sagging breasts would look for a very younger man to input some yang energy, swallowing their semen. Also according to my husband, the woman must stay with the same man, so that their bodies learn to adjust in a symbiotic relationship over time, giving each other what they need. If the man and woman are chemically compatible (according to some 5-element theory), they will derive benefits. For the woman, if during 'treatment' (for him or her?) it is done in the right way (position is important, and he showed me simple circular massage movements to do), she gets bigger breasts.
So being newly married I didn't mind his kinky 'trick' and I thought why not? Now 2 years later, I have had to buy a new wardrobe of bras. I will try to send some pictures to the forum.
Alcest
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 2:19 PM
I am skeptical.
I don't know what to say, I'm very wary of these sort of superstitious Chinese medicine type things. It sounds great though------- I'd do it. =P
However it sucks for anyone single on here (I am currently single.) =[
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 4:06 PM
Hehe, that's very interesting. :p Tho as any mroe common NBE method, I think it wouldn't work for everyone. But I think it's possible.
Curious
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 4:30 PM
How do you find out if you are chemically compatible according to this 5-element theory?
Panda
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 4:38 PM
Wow! I wonder what the Chinese ladies on the forum would have to say about this. Maybe there was more to their chicken feet soup and massage routines than they told us... it might have been the 'extracurriculars' that really did the trick! haha
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 5:01 PM
I've heard semen contains protein and they are using bull semen (or was it whale?) as a hair conditioning treatment (externally!!), surely one man and another are pretty much the same?
pieapie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 5:05 PM
that fing disgusting
chinese medicine freaks me out anyway
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 6:01 PM
Sorry, I meant that assuming this doesn't work with your current partner I doubt it'd work with someone else - not suggesting the more the merrier!
Seriously though, prostitutes and porn stars must get loads, surely this would be documented if it worked?
Fujiapple
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* * Ummmm...I heard of that be4...* *
July 23 2007, 2:57 AM
Hi, All:
Although it may sound yirk, I DID hear that be4 and I'm a Chinese!!! But I really can't myself to swallow that "thing" even though it could make my boobies BIGGER, what I heard is you have to stay w/one (same) man you can't mix more than one coz each one's ***** will fight (and lose their " ability") when they meet inside of you?!!!!
Happy Boobie Growing
P H
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I really doubt
July 23 2007, 3:09 AM
I am Chinese living in Hong Kong and I have NEVER heard of this! It is also contradicting to me that Mousey said her husband told her that old Chinese prostitutes who wanted to stay young and firm their saggy breasts would look for a young guy but he also said a woman should stick to ONE man! ??? Unless she is wealthy enough to keep that young guy, otherwise, for an old prostitute, how can she keep that young guy for long?? Moreover, if what she said is true, all Chinese women should have very big breasts but unfortunately, it's not true. Of course there are some Chinese women with bigger breasts but what I see in Hong Kong, most Chinese women have small breasts and that's why there are a lot of ads on herbs or pills about enlarging breasts.
Lisa
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 4:01 AM
Riiiiiiiiight. I'm not a fan of this "method" so you would have to count me out!
Mousey
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I was skeptical too
July 23 2007, 7:52 AM
Hello everyone! Thank you - I thought I'd be laughed out of the forum or deleted before I was published.
Yes, I was skeptical at first too, I thought he was too cowardly to ask for what he really wanted, and I wasn't really after having bigger breasts myself. But I did jump 2 sizes, so it worked for me. I asked him about it some more tonight, and he said that Western medicine would relate it best as an input of hormones, not too diffferent from the way we use freeze-dried or live cells for beauty treatments. Semen is one of the only (if not the only?) things that you can freeze for years, and when you defrost them they come right back to life. (Scorpions, too but that's another story; and yes, they are used in Chinese medicine too!)
He insisted that there are no benefits from multiple partners, because the body learns to adapt and takes what it needs from the partner. (So maybe that's why prostitutes and porn stars don't get benefits?) Also he said he doesn't fully understand the 5-element theory because he hasn't studied it formally, but the easiest way to tell about compatibility is whether your smells match -- if after a long day, you still find your partner's smell appealing and "comforting" and if it doesn't bother you, your a match. LOL! I guess that makes it easier doesn't it? He said almost any Chinese ladies who have "been around" not sexually, but as in not having lived a sheltered life, would have heard of this practice.
There was a book written years ago called the Tao of Love, which taught that men should withold their essence -- have ogasms without ejaculating, because to lose semen is to give away life force. I believe that is also taught in some schools of Yoga. From what I understand, those that believe in this essence of life thing are broadly divided into 2 schools of thought - one school believes in sharing and the other in witholding bodily fluids.
Anyway, I am out of my depth here. It's hard to get information from someone who hasn't studied it and can't explain it but yet somehow still knows it :-p I just wanted to say it worked for me, and ask if anyone else has talked about this so I could learn more myself.
I am looking for pictures now from 2 years ago. Will send it to the forum soon. :-)
fengshui
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 8:55 AM
I have always been interested in Chinese medcine, never study it, tho. I can say I have heard most of notions that your hubby told u, but about swallowing the "ahem", the only thing I heard about was keeping the women young.....but maybe during the love-making with a lot of squeezing and.., then the "ahem" replace the boobie soup?????? :-)
Lost Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 8:57 AM
Given that there are girls on this board as young as 13 or 14, I hope no one takes this seriously. It is NOT true in any way and not something to do for the sake of breast growth even if it were.
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 1:12 PM
Oh I just have to rspond to that^. Firstly, inetrnet is a free medium and the only person that has the right to decide on any cenzorship is the person who owns the copyright / runs the site. Personally I am strongly against cenzorship. Second, 13 year old girls have nothing to do here and if one comes, she should be told to massage and live healthily and not do NBE untill she's 18 or rather 20. It's their parents responsabilty to make sure they won't go having sex and swallowing semen to grow boobs, not this site's. Thirdly, you can't know somthing isn't true, so a statement like this is no less extreme, deceitful and full o agenda than a statement of a commercial company claiming that their NBE pills are 100% effective.
And sth to add - I find it sad that some women think swallowing semen is bad or wrong or sinful or whaterver. Imo that's a sign of sexual frustration.
This message has been edited by -Moon- on Jul 23, 2007 1:13 PM
lindyrose
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 2:20 PM
To Mousey:
When did first notice your breasts were growing? Do you have to do it everyday? I don't mind doing a little experiment to see if this works for me but I don't know if I can handle doing it everyday... but I'm sure my husband won't mind.
sophie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 3:04 PM
there are girls as young as 13 and 14 on this forum, but they shouldn't be here and are told so. this is the internet, so anyone can find this site. mousey is a married woman and speaking about something that worked for her in the constructs of a marriage. she was also specific about promiscuity. i don't think she said anything wrong, and i don't think the few 13 or 14 year old girls who shouldn't be looking at an NBE board anyway are going to go out and try this! People are free to be comfortable or uncomfortable regarding the topic of sex, but sex within in a marriage? It would be unhealthy if you DIDN'T have sex in a marriage! No religion or culture I know of is morally opposed to sex within a marriage.
Mousey
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To Lindyrose:
July 23 2007, 3:19 PM
To Lindyrose:
"When did first notice your breasts were growing?"
I didn't take my husband seriously at first, so I didn't bother to check or notice anything until maybe about 4 to 6 months when my bras and blouses were getting tight. At first I thought it was due to fluctuations in my weight, but at about 6 months it was undeniable there was something happening, especially when I looked at some old pictures of myself. And I found out I had actually lost a bit of weight too. About 11 months into this, I have a picture of me in a swim suit showing cleavage for the first time in my life. Almost 2 years into this, I was even having heavy hanging D-cup boobs! LOL! I must have worked on the left breast too much as the right one was still C-cup. So I compensated, and now they are more balanced. Now, about 28 months later, I have 2 decent upward bulges, even when lying down on my back.
"Do you have to do it everyday?"
That's what he said. I didn't mind the routine because I had set my mind on spoiling him rotten anyway :-) I do love everything about him, so it wasn't a problem. At first it was tedious when he would instruct me to stick to certain positions and do the same movements over and over, but I got used to it. I was more afraid HE would get bored of me doing the same thing all the time, but he never did :-)
Mousey
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To everyone:
July 23 2007, 4:10 PM
There are a few things I didn't think through too carefully when I started posting messages on this forum. I came here to share and learn more about something that worked for me, and was surprised not to find any solid information about it. It seems some other people have also heard of this thing, but no one has had anything concrete to share about it.
What I didn't realize was how embarrassing and personal this would become. I didn't think there would be 13 or 14-year-old girls looking at this site because I myself did not think about such things at that age. Now suddenly I realize anyone can find their way here, and I don't feel so safe or comfortable anymore. I am supposed to be anonymous, I know, but it's a mental thing to get comfortable or not. What I have written is of course controversial, but some people are just short of calling me a liar. I am just not sure I want to take on this kind of attention, positive or negative. I had promised to submit some pictures, and I intend to keep that promise, pending some questions about privacy which I sent to the administrator. I am sorry to have caused any trouble or made anyone uncomfortable.
After posting and announcing my pictures online to prove I am not lying, I am not sure I how much I will continue to contribute here. I didn't expect to be spearheading some new NBE method/doctrine and defending some theories I didn't make, or answering to questions about demographics and cultural reasons why some ancient knowledge is not more widespread. It's hard enough to answer about things you don't fully understand, and the person who taught you what to do can't fully explain either :-( It would be great if my husband would post here, but I know he doesn't want anything to do with this sort of thing.
here is a link to the Tao of Love book I was writing about:
http://www.trivia-library.com/c/history-...part-1.htm
Erin
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 4:13 PM
EVERYDAY!! Gosh, I was starting to think it was a pain in the a** to swallow all these pills daily. I'm barely keeping up with that.
I have to commend your dedication.
Lost Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 4:50 PM
Mousey, I'm not calling you a liar. I believe that your breasts grew. I just do not believe that semen contributes to breast growth and feel strongly that this is a myth. I probably won't post on the subject again, so don't feel the need to leave if you don't want to.
anon!
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 6:01 PM
Hi Mousey,
I'm willing to try this...
What's the important position you mention?
Also do you think the circular massaging may be responsible for the results? Some girls get results alone from this. Did you do it everyday consistently?
How soon did you achieve a cup size of growth.
Did you put on weight anywhere else during the 2 years?
Did you take the birth control pill?
Sorry for so many questions!
Panda
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 7:54 PM
Erin... you might call it dedication, but sucking cock is way more fun than popping pills!
Davilee
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Dont leave.
July 23 2007, 8:34 PM
I think that what you said Mousey was perfectly fine and very intriging.
Please dont leave because some one was offended.
I believe in all possibilities.I dont like to limit my understanding of things,there are many levels to existence.
We live in the physical and spiritual dimensions,even those who dont except it. Life energies are very interesting.
Read up on Tantric practices for those who want to learn more about what shes talking about,its related i believe.
Blu-Jay
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 9:12 PM
If this were true, that "ahem" will cause breasts to grow, Tomorrow morning There's going to be alot of men showing up for work with smiles on their faces. :-)
:-) :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 9:29 PM
Blue Jay - the woman in you picure is massging her breasts in the wrong direction!!
Blu-Jay
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 10:02 PM
OOPS! Thanks Moon, It's just that darn video keeps playing backwards. :-) Besides that, I couldn't find one of someone massaging the right way. Apparently the makers haven't been reading this forum. :-D
sophie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 5:50 AM
mousey...i don't think anyone was offended by your post at all! i found your post and experience really interesting. there was a recent post on here about intimacy and breast size. when you talk about breasts, it is difficult to not mention sex or sexuality occassionally! my point about the younger girls was that one will pop up once in awhile - not very often. i think you should keep posting and definately post your pictures!
Blu-Jay
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Hey Mousey!
July 24 2007, 7:25 AM
Mousey, don't worry about it. It's an interesting topic,It's new and not very often talked about as opposed to the same old, same old. anybody try wonderup? anybody try vitex? any body try breast gain plus? and so on!
It's refreshing to see some new topics posted.
That's what these forums are all about,Sharing and discussing different Ideas.
People that don,t like these topics should stop being so stuck up. The rest of us have to live with their boring ones too.
So I'll say it, I'm all for your Topic :-) And sex is A Good thing. :-)
Mousey
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Answers
July 24 2007, 12:34 PM
To Lost Sheep:
Very strong feelings indeed. Have you tested it for yourself or know of any studies to determine it is a myth? I've tried it and determined it isn't. You are probably right that semen alone doesn't do the trick, or people could isolate and package semen extracts and put them in syringes or capsules. Those are ideas from Western medicine. This is not what I'm talking about. There are rules (same partner, "chemical" compatibility, body learning and adapting to each other) and Qigong and Tantric-like disciplines involved. If we are going according to what I know, semen is a small but very necessary just part of it, and it has certainly worked for me.
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To Panda:
Yes it is. My husband may be a lucky man but I am a lucky girl to have someone like him who also does a lot for me. He helped me reach sexual levels I had never reached before. But that's another topic for another forum.
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To anon:
"What's the important position you mention?"
The energy flows downwards. You should not have a dominant position, with your body completely above your man. Him lying on a bed while you are on all fours over him is not recommended. The "69" position is also not recommended -- it's better to take turns, one focusing on giving (believe it or not, HE is doing the giving in this concept). As the recipient of the yang energy, a good position is to have him seated comfortably on a couch with you between his knees on some cushions on the floor. That way your hands are also free to do the other required motions as well. If you're used to this form of sex and he knows your limits (doesn't go too deep for you), you don't have to be the one doing all the work. You can find other positions where he is dominanant (flowing down to you) and is doing the moving, while you focus on your own breathing and hand movements. Personally I prefer to be in charge and not worry about getting choked.
"Also do you think the circular massaging may be responsible for the results? Some girls get results alone from this.
I'm sure it's an integral part of it, but maybe what I do can't be called massage per se, as it is mostly sensual skin contact and nipple stimulation. It involves breathing techniques which were very tricky in the beginning, gentle stroking with the finger tips, and cupping with the palms. It's similar to Blu-Jay's animated picture but that looks too much like kneeding dough :-) My movements are more like in a Thai dance. It's not so much about glandular stimulation. This is more about transfering heat and yang energy, I imagine it's almost like discharging static electricity through your hands (you and your man connect to become a powerful battery). Maybe I can give a description of what I do later, if it is appropriate for this forum.
"Did you do it everyday consistently?"
Yes, I did. Took a break when I had a cold (10 days?) -- too hard with blocked nose and sore throat, and also missed 1 week when we were apart.
"How soon did you achieve a cup size of growth."
From B to C, maybe 10 months. From C to D maybe another 10. I am moving from D to DD the last 8 months.
"Did you put on weight anywhere else during the 2 years?"
My weight went up and down, but my breasts kept growing. 2 years ago I was maybe 55kg (121 lbs.), and now I'm usually 56 to 57kg (2 - 4 lbs. more which shows as a bit of fat around my belly:-( ). But I have been as heavy as 66kg in my late teens (145 lbs.) and I still had B-cups then, if that's what you mean.
"Did you take the birth control pill?"
Since my teenage years.
"Sorry for so many questions!"
No problems. Here are some Wiki links I found about some of the things I've been refering to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_elemen...hilosophy)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tui_na
Lost Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 2:59 PM
"Very strong feeling indeed?" I wrote all of two sentences and said it isn't true. Big deal? You seem to be taking this very far and very personally. I cannot believe that you expect everyone to agree with you that semen causes breasts to grow. If you cannot handle criticism or an opposing view, that is your issue. I was actually quite nice about it compared to the reaction you would get from almost any other group of people. I could direct you to numerous health board where you can post your experience and see what I mean. Please, ask a doctor or another message board online and see what replies come up.
Cynthia
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this is great stuff!!!!
July 24 2007, 3:53 PM
Hi Mousey!
I think it's great that you are sharing this information. I also thought that the ladies here were massaging way to hard. Like that picture Blu-jay has posted. Too hard for me.
I give your method a lot of credibility, and if my husband was willing to try it daily, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I, like you, love my husband and would spoil him terribly if he let me. :o)
I am just so grateful for all the information posted here good and bad, whether I believe it or not doesn't really matter, the information is there to be taken as the individual sees fit. It is so important to be well informed in subjects like this. We are all trying to alter our bodies with all sorts of pills, creams, massage methods and sure, why not sex with our mates! Someone mentioned having sex within a union as a very good thing. I agree, in my opinion, if you're not enjoying each other intimately, then something is very wrong with that union as far as I'm concerned.
Tell me, the wiki links that you posted, do they tell you of positioning, and methods that you mentioned? I just find all of this fascinating, so if there is more information that you would like to share and post, by all means, I strongly advise it. :o)
This certainly shines a new light on the NBE methods. Thanks. lol
When I give this some thought, there are places all over this world that people use their minds to self-heal disease, combat depression, and shift all sorts of happenings in their lives in a better direction, so why not this. They also use hypnosis for breast enhancement too. Although this method sounds like a lot more fun. :o)
Snowflake
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 5:26 PM
This is old news, and just as disgusting the second time around. If anyone has the time, it came up about 14 months ago, and there is actually a forum board about this, its in the old thread for the forum address, and yes there was teenage girls willing to give anyone a BJ just to get bigger boobs. Very disgusting and terrilby desperate. Take hormones, drink protein shakes, anything, but really ladies, how low can this forum go?
Curious
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To Snowflake: Where?
July 24 2007, 5:54 PM
I looked through the old threads of May 2006 and couldn't find anything.
pinklemoncake
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 6:24 PM
I don't think the concept of what she is saying is disgusting but Snowflake is right, how long is this going to go on for? I tried one of the first links she posted, it was just about a man who liked to have sex many times a day. Nothing there about breast growth! I'm not a non believer, otherwise I wouldn't be on this site, but people come on get real! I honestly think she is taking the piss!
Nell Gwynne
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 6:30 PM
No I'm sure it's serious, but I'd like to know if there is any evidence that supports this idea.
Snowflake
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For Curious,
July 24 2007, 6:42 PM
I have been trying to find that thread. Can't remeber if it was a "posted" message or a thread with the info. But I do remeber checking out the Forum address at the time and it was just gross the way they were discribing stuff. So when I saw this post I just remembered it from along time ago. Maybe Eve has a way to uncover that topic. And I was also just guessing about how long ago it was, so it could have been in Mar or Apr., or June or July. I did forum search and only broughtup this post now. If older members were still here I am sure they would remeber it, just sad really and I think our forum is more than abit above that anyway, but just my thoughts.
Betty
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 6:44 PM
I'm not sure I understand what is so bad about this...and snowflake it certainly is NOT disgusting when it is done between two consensual, loving, committed, MARRIED partners. Mousey made sure to explain that promiscuity would not yield results in this area, so if people can read they should understand that it will not work if you give BJ's to everyone you see.
To be perfectly honest...chicken feet soup and bovine ovary sound more disgusting to me than this...at least this is from another human... but to each their own.. I am not judging those who chose to use it as it seems to work for them. This forum is for discussion not censorship.
I will echo what a few other posters have already said.. if you are not interested in this topic or are put off by it, then don't read it anymore...no one is twisting your arm and obviously there are people who are intrigued and would like to know more.
Ask, Believe and you will Receive
Mousey
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To pinklemoncake
July 24 2007, 6:52 PM
I wrote: "There was a book written years ago called the Tao of Love, which taught that men should withold their essence -- have ogasms without ejaculating, because to lose semen is to give away life force. I believe that is also taught in some schools of Yoga. From what I understand, those that believe in this essence of life thing are broadly divided into 2 schools of thought - one school believes in sharing and the other in witholding bodily fluids."
The link was to a book that talks about something related. It supports the idea that semen is regarded as life force by the Chinese, and has special properties in it. How one goes about using that life force, storing or dispersing it, is up to the individual. I'm not pulling anyone's leg. But I really think I ought to just shut up now. I had no idea it would go this far either. I don't think what I do is disgusting, and I didn't do it to get bigger breasts, but thanks for your opinion.
Snowflake
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 6:54 PM
Like I said just my thoughts. The forum that I had checked out was not nearly as informative as this one and very grossly descriptive, if I ever find that adress I will post it. But to each their own. I am not trying to shout down this topic but I do have the right to express myself, just the same as those in favour of this topic. And I was trying to find info for those interested.
nowflake
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 7:14 PM
I am not a prude, I guess I just really have to pat Mousey on the back, EVERYDAY,,,, i don't know if that is something that you can get used to taste of, thats all. I couldn't do it, even if it was a 100% proven thing for bigger boobs, sorry!
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 7:45 PM
Okay, don't want to get too graphic but is a certain quantity required or just all of it?
Does it matter if your husband is quite a bit older?
Also I quite agree that chicken's feet and cow's ovary sounds much more disgusting, admittedly every day for 2yrs is amazing but is anyone on here who's married honestly going to say they have never done this?....I'll laugh if this comes up as a survey question!
Tiger Lily
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 7:47 PM
It is good to see this much interest in Chinese ideas, although I can't say I know anything of this one, but I agree that Chinese medicine is made for the individual and aim for results with yin-yang balance.
Corrie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 4:01 AM
I have to say, I think it's lovely that a man and woman would be that connected to be sharing energy and be in alignment with each other. I love it!
fengshui
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to louise
July 25 2007, 6:33 AM
>Does it matter if your husband is quite a bit older?
I would think it might but not necessarily, as I know usually younger men have stronger " chi of yang" than older men. But a healthier older man will have stronger "chi of yang" than an unhealthy younger man.
As in Chinese medicine, the balance of yin and yang can keep both men and women younger and healthier.
I hope mousey will come back to share some more, 'cause the notions her husband told her I have heard or read most of them. Even if I am not up for this method, but for whoever is interested, I would say mostly what mousey worte, most of Chinese over 30 would know or heard about them. It would be interesting to know more.
This message has been edited by fengshuiTW on Jul 25, 2007 6:35 AM
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 6:57 AM
I just have to say this - Lost Sheep, you are the one who is taking this personally and apparently can't handle a pro-sex discussion.
Lost Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 7:54 AM
Ok, Moon. I have zero issues with a sexual discussion whatsoever. It's not offensive in any way to discuss sex, semen, etc. It's simply innaccurate, which was my only comment and point during this entire discussion. You are the one that is so offensive that you start insulting me and saying I'm sexually frustrating, bring an element into it that has nothing to do with my comments. I do not care if people try this method all day long. I just believe in being scientific and reasonable, something that is clearly not the point here.
abby
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 8:46 AM
you guys are crazy to believe on this idea
it is just superstition and the chnaces of success are zero
but when people are desperate enough they will try anything
fengshui
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 8:47 AM
if anybody is interested in Chinese medicine, here is a website of a very good herb doctor. Just get some notions.
http://www.hantang.com/
Lost Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 10:40 AM
Mousy, thank you for introducing something new, informative and fun to this forum. I can't believe that bad feedback you've had from some people here. Girls, if you don't like what she's suggesting, go somewhere else! In here we're open to suggestions, and if you can't handle it, or think it's "disgusting"- god forbid anything of the sort should be DESCRIBED in a forum that deals with our bodies! If you want clean, logical and well- tested methods, go, by all means to your GP or a doctor's forum, but don't lay words in people's mouths or try to make those of us who are open minded seem filthy. So what if it doesn't work? The worst thing that can happen is those of us with steady parnters give each other lots of pleasure.
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 11:51 AM
Lost Sheep - Like I've pointed out before, not having scientific proof doesn't prove that it's not true, which you did claim. That is violation of one of the most basic laws of logic, so ''reasonable'' my ass. And I did not insult you, I never mentioned sexual frustaration and reffered to you personally, so if you interpret it that way and feel insulted, well your problem.
This message has been edited by -Moon- on Jul 25, 2007 11:52 AM
Black Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 2:15 PM
I tried to 'research' this and found it mentioned on another forum. There are claims that semen increases the size of one's butt as well. Be warned that the language is explicit:
http://www.aphroditewomenshealth.com/for...=1&fpart=1
littlelibrarian
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Stop your fighting
July 25 2007, 2:28 PM
You ladies don't even know each other so why are you arguing - don't you get that enough with your kids?! Everyone's allowed to give their opinion and advice - it's your choice whether you take it or not. I'm looking on this board for advice and opinions and really don't feel like scrolling though arguments.
Cynthia
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My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 2:59 PM
Geeze, I've never seen anything like this before. Are you sure you women are all adults? You surely aren't acting like it. Give the girl a break,(Mousy) she is sharing valid, as far as she knows, information with us. What is wrong with that? It's not like shes describing in detail, step by step what she personally does with her husband, and that is because she is sending links to books and information obviously written on that subject. It's also not like shes trying to push it on us either. You read it, take it into consideration, or not, say thank you very much and draw your conclusions or opinions from the information given. Simple, no?
She has diplomatically, and I must say eloquently shared information with a lot of already desperate women willing to take pills, use creams and all sorts of herbs and methods to alter the size of their breasts. Some women have suffered by developing poor health, mastitis, blood clots, infections, and who knows what with these methods. Now tell me, aside from what you've read on the internet, and what you've heard per se, what medical proof or documentation have we all got to validate this stuff that we're doing?
Everyone here is allowed to voice their opinion if they feel they have to, but again, like one woman has said, if this isn't what you want to read, then don't, that's called freedom of choice. If this is something that a 13 year stumbles upon, then it's up to their parents to monitor the childs entertainment, and have another conversation regarding how the body develops. I know I always did.
Keep sending the info Mousy, I find it interesting, and so do a lot of other women, who are happily married - despite what few negative comments may arise. Besides, I'd much rather learn about your method than eating whatever it is their eating containing chicken feet, and for Almighty God's Sake, cow ovaries... No thanks.
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 5:34 PM
Maybe this link posted just above is the information that Snowflake was looking for.
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 7:45 PM
No Cutie Pie - there was a post that had a link to a page where young girls were discussing whether or not oral sex would help their breasts to grow. It was quite sickening, if I recall correctly they were also saying something about freezing it and drinking it throughout the day. I remember that post when this one first came up, but couldn't find it at all, and still can't find it even after Snowflake mentioned it. Think it might be on the BeBoard - can't remember.
I personally don't give this method alot of credibility. It reminds me alot of all the other "methods" where one person posts about huge growth and everyone jumps on.....but I think someone else refered to that already..........
You ladies try what you like - for me, I refuse to commit everyday for the next 2 years (which by the way points to Mousy for keeping track that long) in the hopes that this method really does work, and it wasn't something else that was causing Mousy to gain boobs. I would also think that overtime there will be a huge disappointment for all those it doesn't work for, and they will actually begin to not enjoy oral sex, or anysex for that matter, and will eventually begin to feel like an object - I find alot of this information mind boggling.
For those that find this topic disgusting, I do have to agree stop reading about it, let them get it out of there system. it will eventually pass - and if you find it really offensive, then report it to a moderator and let them decide.
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 27 2007, 7:51 PM
This whole idea seems very hit or miss (not that I ever understand anything in Chinese medicine very well). It's unclear to me how you would know that someone was suitable to be your partner for this.
Mousey
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To Nell Gwynne
July 29 2007, 2:37 AM
To Nell Gwynne:
I asked my husband about what you said and according to him it's easier to succeed than to fail, because the body learns to adapt even if there is not the best 5-element "chemical" compatibility to start with. And people in long-term relationships experience gradual changes in the "chemistry" anyway.
Someone asked about the age thing. The answer you got was a good one, and FYI my husband is almost 20 years older. He looks 35 though, so that may fall into the all-that-matter-is-he-is-healthy category. :-)
Samantha
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 29 2007, 3:23 AM
Just curious about the circular massage and position. I'd be willing to give this a try if I knew exactly what type of massage is needed. I'm sure my husband wouldn't mind..
No Name Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 29 2007, 7:13 AM
I want to say thank you, Mousey, for sharing this.
WiccanWoman
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 30 2007, 11:51 AM
Well Girls I read this during my break for my health and decided to try a "New twist" to my program.
First off, this is a married loving couple. There is nothing gross what so ever about what they do..or any loving couple doing anything intimate ! Really I don't understand how anyone would get thier knickers in a twist over this unless they are very close minded, ignorant or just plain mean. Whatever reason its just cruel to degrate something so personal that this women offered to share for the sake of helping.
Now. I am married myself and talked about this to my Husband. He didn't make it out to be some perverse way to get his pleasure but instead from a scientific manner and agreed it might have some value to it. As most of you know I tend to prefer topical methods instead of taking herbs orally..
So after a break from my GY program and all herbs... (loss of 1 inch on break for a total gain of 2 inches for 7 weeks of GY) I started back up by having my Husband apply his semen directly onto my breasts, let dry (yes I rubbed it in) then wash with very warm water and apply Greenbush herb extracts and finish with a very quick massage of EPO/Cocoa oil/pumpkin seed oil blend used very sparingly.
I have been doing this for 3 days and..you know what ?
Igot the inch back I lost. I am amazed. It occcured to me that all the protein I had been making myself eat/injest was being wasted because very little was going to my breasts but to my belly instead (yuck not the effect I wanted) so why not apply a concentrated form of high protein liquid directly to my breasts ?
To me it makes sense and it is working. So Thank you Mousey for sharing this, you gave me a wonderful idea that is helping me !
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Mousy well done love
July 30 2007, 12:49 PM
Right well im back and i have to say iv not enjoyed reading a tread as much in ages, iv chuckled myself nearly off my chair-
MY THAUGHTS.
1.-what an excellent way to get a gobble/blow job every day for a man, he must be smiling from ear to ear (men all over the world would c him as a god)
2.-Its not disgusting, its nice, and if it was proven id not be apposed to storing it up , freezing it, and even using it as salad dressing,
3.Using for massage, sounds a good idea it feels nice when on the breast anyway, and if you arent that confident in the bedroom, believe me hubby/fella etc would be very pleased, so that is a bonus!
4.i would say it is possible for sperm and semen to have health benefits wether for NBE is another matter. it is full of chemicals and minerals, sugar, calcium, chlorine, magnesium, nitrogen, vitamin B12, and zinc
5.I think that semun/spunk for NBE has as much credit as many other forms of NBE some are aload of **** others plausable,lets say if it is worth ago,it will be much more fun than many other forms,id rather be gobbling semen than causing myself to become engorged doing GY
6.I have my doubts,and there are no scientific reasonings behind this method
but mousy you are one heck of a good wife, your man aint eva going anywere, good tip for us all on how to keep a man and if we grow boobies even better, keep smiling love
Cheers for making me smile
Alcest
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 30 2007, 2:16 PM
Uh, what "chemicals" are in sperm Ginger?? =/
gingerD
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Alcest
July 30 2007, 4:47 PM
Hi alcest hope you are good
Here is what iv found out about spunk today
Human seminal fluid chemical concentrations are typically similar to or lower than blood concentrations
I.E what ever chemicals e.g paracetamol/cocaine etc in the blood will also be present in semen(just google chemicals in semen) or read this interesting article on cocaine in semen
http://www.sciences.com/professionals/pu...cialli.pdf
and interestingly (iv been reading-that semen is absorbed through the viginal walls and people who have more sex generally are less depressed as the hormones in semen which are: testosterone, oestrogen, follicle-stimulating hormone, luteinising hormone, prolactin and several different prostaglandins. Some of these have been detected in a women's blood within hours of exposure to semen.
The question many people will ask is whether oral sex could have the same mood-enhancing effects.
"I understand that among some gay males who have anal intercourse, it is not uncommon to attempt to retain the semen for extended periods of time," he adds. "Suggesting, of course, that there may be psychological effects." But further research will be needed to confirm whether exposure to semen through oral or anal sex really does affect mood in heterosexual or homosexual partners.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2457
Hope this is interesting 4 ya GD
This message has been edited by gingerD on Jul 30, 2007 4:49 PM
Natasha
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 30 2007, 5:47 PM
So we seem to be saying now that you could get the same effect from drinking somebody's blood, since blood has the same properties. So if there are any vampires reading this perhaps they could comment?
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 31 2007, 11:43 AM
I just wanted to state this fact - if sperm does conain proteins and you aplly it to the breasts, the proteins are not absorbed throgh the skin, nor are fats, because these are too big molecules.
This message has been edited by -Moon- on Jul 31, 2007 3:15 PM
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 31 2007, 7:26 PM
Moon, not doubting that you know a lot more about all this than I do but how does progesterone cream absorb as hormones are all proteins? Are you saying the man's specific proteins are larger molecules?
k
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 31 2007, 8:31 PM
louise,
i don't think she knows what she's talking about.
sophie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 31 2007, 9:12 PM
the molecules may not be absorbed through the skin, but semen does tighten your pores, much in the same way that an egg mask does. of course, the effects are temporary, but if you do it often, just as with many temporary things, it still benefits the skin each time. on that note, it's all relative. i hate eggs. I wouldn't eat an egg if you gave me 100 dollars. i would eat one for 1,000 maybe, but only because i really need the money. i just really, really hate eggs. i hate the idea of an egg and i dislike the taste. but semen? never bothered me. i'm a 27 year old woman and have been with the same person for a long time. i really love everything about him - even that. I don't think there is anything wrong with liking semen or disliking it. there really is no right or wrong in terms of this being mentally or morally abhorrant. but ginger, refrain from using the word "spunk;" the term "baby batter" is so much more appealing.
WiccanWoman
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 31 2007, 9:13 PM
Its prolly the same as the old cococa butter/oils debate..while it works for some it doesn't seem to work for others just with any form and NBE.
All I know is topically does seem to work better for me that orally for all NBE methods. And wow prolactin and so many of the things we need for NBE are in semen..who knew ?!
It indeed does feel very good on the breasts, afterward I experience lots of tingling and pains and nothing else so far had given me that. This is just an awesome find IMO.
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 9:51 AM
Moon, I think you do know what you're talking about and was asking for clarification not trying to be rude
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 10:44 AM
Louise - No worry hun, you were not rude at all, and you posed a good question. In response to that, not all hormones are proteins. Progesterone belogns to the group of steroid hormones, which are sterols - synthetised from cholesterol. Sterols have a disctinctive carbon structure of 4 fused rings:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterols
K - Oh really, and from what do you infer that? You don't suppose you'd have to know me to say that, do you, nooo of course not. Sorry but that was plan stupid. For your information, I'm a student of medicine so you can bet I very well know what I'm talking about.
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 10:58 AM
Yeah, there was a big dispute on the cocoa butter, but it again came down to the fact that no matter how much fatty acids (building blocks of fats which are absorbed) you get throguh the skin in the breast, they ain't gonna stay in the breast, but go into the blood and straight to your but, tighs, belly or werever you're predisposed to store fat. That is, if CB even cotnains fatty acids and not only fats.
Topicals may be great for the skin, which can improve the look of the breast. If I'm not mistaking tightening pores of the skin on the breasts causes water retention and so they look bigger (not completely sure about this one tho), but all that doesn't cause breast growth. But still a lot can be done with them particulary for shape and lifting.
Sperm does seem to contain a lot of stuff great for NBE. If this is in fact so, however, swallowing it would still make better use of them than appying on the skin. But amybe best a little of both. -Omg this post just souned so weird lol!
This message has been edited by -Moon- on Aug 1, 2007 11:00 AM
gingerD
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 11:03 AM
Sophie,i dont even call it that my self,
anyway but i kind of like Luv Juice as a word Its like a cook program,
after squeezing 25ml of luv juice into a jug blend 6 borage flowers and 3 pinches of ground fennel seed mix together with geletine and set in the fridge for 2 hours.
when set add 3slices of papaya and serve with a sprinkling of fenugreek-YUM YUM
LOL
Il pay some one 100$ t try it, but i need video evidence ILMAO
k
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 12:11 PM
There is a huge difference between being a student and being a certified doctor.
Suzy
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 3:44 PM
I don't understand why people have to be so discourteous. I have always found Moon to be extremely knowledgeable and a very valued member of this forum. Noone using the forum has to accept what another has to say, they have only to consider it. The very nature of the subject of nbe means that we are ALL learning.
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 4:09 PM
I have to agree with Suzy, if there are so many Doctor's educated opinions on this subject(NOT), why do we have this forum. We are all just here learn what info we can because resourses are slim to none out there. Keep the info coming ladies, whether I agree or not I still like to see it popping up. In fact, I would love a Doctor to come on the forum, we would still probably teach him a thing or two. Anyway, take care and best of luck EVERYONE, on your boob quest!
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 4:48 PM
"There is a huge difference between being a student and being a certified doctor."
Aha, and where did I claim to be a certified doctor intead of a med student, or where did I make a claim that would recquire a diploma to be credible? Do you know what is the difference between a student and a doctor in terms of biochemistry knowledge? Several years in which the doctor can forget most of the biochemistry he/she learnt, because it's a theoretical background for medicine, but not practical, not something doctors deal with most of their time. My biochemistry exam is still pretty recent however. Not that that matters in any way. What I said about absorption is a well known scientific fact that can be read in any textbook on biochemistry.
I can't believe I'm engaging in an argument like this, it's so beneath my intelectual level.
@Suzy - Thank you for nice words. *blushes* :I I come up with a new idea from time to time, but I have to say that in terms of specifically NBE related reasearch, I've done a lot less than some of the oldest and most experienced members arround here.
Very true, info is very scarse in our field, which is why I emphasise going with the dynamic changing guidelines and trying out new things, to get as much practice as possible, since practice is our main source of information.
@Ginger - Looololol, call it The Love Coctail, hahaha!
Black Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 6:51 PM
You get yourself all worked up (boasting how much "education" you have), yet I don't see any "factual" evidence provided.
So, you must have lots of biochemistry books handy. Point to a good reference in one of them, please.
sophie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 8:59 PM
moon - i knew you had to either a student of medicine or some science...totally makes sense now! and i concur with suzy and others i am sure that your knowledge is definately most welcome and helpful. and your posts carry no air of pretension whatsoever. you are precisely correct in regard to the distinction between the practical aspects of a medical education and the science required to learn the practice of medicine. what area of medicine are you interested in practicing? not sure how medicine works in your country.
ginger - i think you just whipped up a delicious nbe receipe! mmmmm! work out the exact proportions and i'm game! perhaps you and moon can develop a receipe for an egg substitute. nbe chocolate cake...nbe pancakes...think of the possibilities! watch out wonderup...
Alcest
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 2 2007, 12:13 AM
Okay women stop with the anonymous note bull**** like we're in 8th grade please. It's so freaking pansy-ass. If you don't have something nice to say SAY IT FOR REAL OR SHUT UP.
=) Other than that I'm not getting into this. Ciao.
Jen
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 2 2007, 5:22 AM
*adds bf love potion to program*
I'm going for it, lol
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 2 2007, 5:44 PM
Hi Moon, following the same theory would you agree that there is no benefit from applying collagen directly to boobs (or wrinkles!) as it's too big to absorb? I'm pretty sure collagen is a large molecule but my student days were quite a while ago.
Cynthia
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herbs
August 2 2007, 5:47 PM
Hi Moon,
I have a question for you, maybe you can help, and maybe not. Anyway, I just read that you are a student of medicine. I wondered if you could give us a list of herbs that would help to enhance the PM we're all taking? Maybe tell us where we can find a list and their recommended dosages, so we can try them. Thanks Moon.
Cynthia :o)
WiccanWoman
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 3 2007, 5:00 AM
You know I can't believe all this arguing, this is why I left the forun for a while in the first place. I came back and found something helpfull that is working there is no temp swelling about it, its WORKING. Even my family is impressed and noticed the change.
Why if this forum is to help people or you so dead set on insisting that this could not work topicaly ? If someone posts on here thrilled with glee that eatting fruit loops upside down under an apple tree works for her I'd be thrilled for her and supportive. Maybe the thought that it IS working is enough to mentally boost your body into action as well, the point is negativity won't help anyone here.
Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion about things, but I'd like to see less negativity on the boards..can't we all just get along ?
Remember we all are here for the same reason and are all different and different methods as we all know work for some and not others. Doesn't make them right or wrong.
This message has been edited by WiccanWoman123 on Aug 3, 2007 5:01 AM
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 3 2007, 7:33 AM
Hi Louise, that is correct, collagen does not peneterate the skin. It creates a water impereable layer on the skin causing it to retain moisture. I would rather advise oral implication of collagen.
Here are a couple of articles on skin absorption I googled:
http://molinterv.aspetjournals.org/cgi/c...ll/4/6/308
http://www.abc.net.au/cgi-bin/common/pri...efault.htm
I will cite a few pasages and explain:
"These "successful" substances (which penetrate the skin) are characterized by low molecular weight (less than 500 Da), lipophilicity, and effectiveness at low dosage."
Proteins have a molecular weight of a few thousand Da up to several milion Da. A protein is an amino acid chain containing at least 50 amino acids (smaller are aclled peptides). Most proteins are thousands of amino acids long. One of the smallest proteins is the hormone insulin - 51 amino acids, and it has the molecular weight of 5808 Da. So we can see from the molecular weight of the smalest proteins that none can be absorbed throguh the skin under normal corcumstances.
The secon article says this about dermal application of collagen and elastin:
"Despite the claims, adding elastin and collagen has no effect on the skin, except to retain moisture; the size of molecules means they can't be delivered across the skin."
Hope this helped.
Hi Cynthia, I'm sorry I can't help you there. It's a very specific NBE related question and I have not used PM so I didn't do much research on it. Ginger opened a topic with that exact question a few days ago, some PM user should know the answer.
This message has been edited by -Moon- on Aug 3, 2007 7:35 AM
Jennelle
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 3 2007, 8:59 AM
WiccanWoman's point of view seems to be pointless. After all, what use would a forum be if the people in it weren't stating what they really believed? And because sometimes people believe different things that inevitably involves some argument. Isn't her ideal of a forum without argument rather like music without instruments?
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 3 2007, 9:59 AM
I think along the same lines as Jenelle. While I don't intentionally look for arguments, I won't be quiet for the sake of niceness and sweetness and pink-flowerness. This forum is pink enough as it is, literally. :p There is nothing wrong with not agreeing and not getting along with everyone, it shows that people are different and that they have standards, that they think. A world where everyone would like everyone would be a world of mindless clones.
littledrummergirl
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Too many women in one place
August 3 2007, 12:48 PM
Wow it really is true. Having this many women in one place makes for a lot of bitching! and we're not even all in the same place physically! Anyway just want to point out a little something to support this semen idea, but it's directly related to the semen exactly. Sex is all about hormones on the most basic level, so daily sexual activity, no matter what kind really, causes fluctuations in hormone release and synthesis. More sex for women means more of these hormones that we are all trying to simulate using herbs. So OF COURSE IT COULD HELP! having a healthy sex life with a loving partner also makes people very happy, they have more endorphins, are healthier in general, and so yeah, it can definitely make breasts grow. Semen is just like a multivitamin. It comes from someone's body so it contains many of the things that their body does, it really is good for you. Anyone who is trying this method, keep it up, and let me know how it goes! I have great faith, in fact I'll try it myself as well.
before anyone tries to tell me that I don't know what i'm talking about, I am a medical student, in my sixth year of study, and I do know what I'm talking about. Can we all please be happy and nice to each other? this forum is about helping and supporting each other isn't it? just because we've never heard of something doesn't mean it's not true. And judging by what I've seen on here, the asian girls seem to do the best with their growth, so maybe we should all have a closer look at the chinese medicines etc
Snowflake
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 3 2007, 1:55 PM
This thread is already so long, so I figure what the heck. So I'll ask,,, What would female juices, for lack of another word, do to a man. Our juices must have good properties as well if there is anything to this theory. So can anyone answer this for me?
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 3 2007, 7:09 PM
Not sure it works the other way round as I think it's the actual sperm that contain proteins / hormones etc not the seminal fluid and women's fluid is just lubrication (possibly with some friendly bacteria!) If you could get enough eggs together then maybe that would be similar but seeing as you only produce 1-2 per month don't know how you'd go about it.
Without being bitchy after studying science for 6yrs (Optometry) I would prefer to try things that have either a scientific basis or a scientific maybe rather than be proven to not work. Some people have had results with Erdic, some people say that anal sex allows higher absorption of hormones through the colon but there are so many environmental factors we can't control that there is possibly another explanation for all these things.
Thanks Moon for your responses, would t
July 22 2007 at 10:21 AM Mousey (no login)
Ok, this is no prank! I am new to this forum so don't know if this topic has been covered. I am French, 30, with no children, married to a very sensual Chinese-American. And I have gone from a B cup to DD in 2 years. How?
My husband has a natural talent for health and natural (intuitive?) medicine, although he does not prefer to work with this. He describes his instinctual abilities as similar to Qigong and Tweena disciplines which is health enhancement through training, massage, as well as herbal/natural food. His great-grand uncle was a apothecary, and inventor of a rare martial art, but he himself is very un-Chinese, so considers much of the information he inherited from his background to be superstition. So when he first told me about this, I thought it was a joke, or a ploy to have me service his sexual needs, but my god, it turned out to be true!
He told me that in Chinese medicine, there is no one size fits all solution, no one magic pill that works for everybody. Chinese medicine is made for the individual; even if 2 people have the same symptoms and same disease, their treatment can be very different depending on a person's chemistry. A Chinese doctor will ask strange questions and even smell a patient to determine his/her physical properties before customizing a herbal concoction.
So here is the thing: he said that men and women need each other for yin and yang balance. He said that the balance is achieved through swopping of bodily fluids among other things. You get the idea? He said if I swallowed a dose of his fluid daily, my breasts would grow and my complexion would be fantastic. He heard that in China/Asia, old prostitutes in desperation to stay young and make firm their sagging breasts would look for a very younger man to input some yang energy, swallowing their semen. Also according to my husband, the woman must stay with the same man, so that their bodies learn to adjust in a symbiotic relationship over time, giving each other what they need. If the man and woman are chemically compatible (according to some 5-element theory), they will derive benefits. For the woman, if during 'treatment' (for him or her?) it is done in the right way (position is important, and he showed me simple circular massage movements to do), she gets bigger breasts.
So being newly married I didn't mind his kinky 'trick' and I thought why not? Now 2 years later, I have had to buy a new wardrobe of bras. I will try to send some pictures to the forum.
Alcest
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 2:19 PM
I am skeptical.
I don't know what to say, I'm very wary of these sort of superstitious Chinese medicine type things. It sounds great though------- I'd do it. =P
However it sucks for anyone single on here (I am currently single.) =[
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 4:06 PM
Hehe, that's very interesting. :p Tho as any mroe common NBE method, I think it wouldn't work for everyone. But I think it's possible.
Curious
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 4:30 PM
How do you find out if you are chemically compatible according to this 5-element theory?
Panda
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 4:38 PM
Wow! I wonder what the Chinese ladies on the forum would have to say about this. Maybe there was more to their chicken feet soup and massage routines than they told us... it might have been the 'extracurriculars' that really did the trick! haha
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 5:01 PM
I've heard semen contains protein and they are using bull semen (or was it whale?) as a hair conditioning treatment (externally!!), surely one man and another are pretty much the same?
pieapie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 5:05 PM
that fing disgusting
chinese medicine freaks me out anyway
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 22 2007, 6:01 PM
Sorry, I meant that assuming this doesn't work with your current partner I doubt it'd work with someone else - not suggesting the more the merrier!
Seriously though, prostitutes and porn stars must get loads, surely this would be documented if it worked?
Fujiapple
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* * Ummmm...I heard of that be4...* *
July 23 2007, 2:57 AM
Hi, All:
Although it may sound yirk, I DID hear that be4 and I'm a Chinese!!! But I really can't myself to swallow that "thing" even though it could make my boobies BIGGER, what I heard is you have to stay w/one (same) man you can't mix more than one coz each one's ***** will fight (and lose their " ability") when they meet inside of you?!!!!
Happy Boobie Growing
P H
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I really doubt
July 23 2007, 3:09 AM
I am Chinese living in Hong Kong and I have NEVER heard of this! It is also contradicting to me that Mousey said her husband told her that old Chinese prostitutes who wanted to stay young and firm their saggy breasts would look for a young guy but he also said a woman should stick to ONE man! ??? Unless she is wealthy enough to keep that young guy, otherwise, for an old prostitute, how can she keep that young guy for long?? Moreover, if what she said is true, all Chinese women should have very big breasts but unfortunately, it's not true. Of course there are some Chinese women with bigger breasts but what I see in Hong Kong, most Chinese women have small breasts and that's why there are a lot of ads on herbs or pills about enlarging breasts.
Lisa
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 4:01 AM
Riiiiiiiiight. I'm not a fan of this "method" so you would have to count me out!
Mousey
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I was skeptical too
July 23 2007, 7:52 AM
Hello everyone! Thank you - I thought I'd be laughed out of the forum or deleted before I was published.
Yes, I was skeptical at first too, I thought he was too cowardly to ask for what he really wanted, and I wasn't really after having bigger breasts myself. But I did jump 2 sizes, so it worked for me. I asked him about it some more tonight, and he said that Western medicine would relate it best as an input of hormones, not too diffferent from the way we use freeze-dried or live cells for beauty treatments. Semen is one of the only (if not the only?) things that you can freeze for years, and when you defrost them they come right back to life. (Scorpions, too but that's another story; and yes, they are used in Chinese medicine too!)
He insisted that there are no benefits from multiple partners, because the body learns to adapt and takes what it needs from the partner. (So maybe that's why prostitutes and porn stars don't get benefits?) Also he said he doesn't fully understand the 5-element theory because he hasn't studied it formally, but the easiest way to tell about compatibility is whether your smells match -- if after a long day, you still find your partner's smell appealing and "comforting" and if it doesn't bother you, your a match. LOL! I guess that makes it easier doesn't it? He said almost any Chinese ladies who have "been around" not sexually, but as in not having lived a sheltered life, would have heard of this practice.
There was a book written years ago called the Tao of Love, which taught that men should withold their essence -- have ogasms without ejaculating, because to lose semen is to give away life force. I believe that is also taught in some schools of Yoga. From what I understand, those that believe in this essence of life thing are broadly divided into 2 schools of thought - one school believes in sharing and the other in witholding bodily fluids.
Anyway, I am out of my depth here. It's hard to get information from someone who hasn't studied it and can't explain it but yet somehow still knows it :-p I just wanted to say it worked for me, and ask if anyone else has talked about this so I could learn more myself.
I am looking for pictures now from 2 years ago. Will send it to the forum soon. :-)
fengshui
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 8:55 AM
I have always been interested in Chinese medcine, never study it, tho. I can say I have heard most of notions that your hubby told u, but about swallowing the "ahem", the only thing I heard about was keeping the women young.....but maybe during the love-making with a lot of squeezing and.., then the "ahem" replace the boobie soup?????? :-)
Lost Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 8:57 AM
Given that there are girls on this board as young as 13 or 14, I hope no one takes this seriously. It is NOT true in any way and not something to do for the sake of breast growth even if it were.
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 1:12 PM
Oh I just have to rspond to that^. Firstly, inetrnet is a free medium and the only person that has the right to decide on any cenzorship is the person who owns the copyright / runs the site. Personally I am strongly against cenzorship. Second, 13 year old girls have nothing to do here and if one comes, she should be told to massage and live healthily and not do NBE untill she's 18 or rather 20. It's their parents responsabilty to make sure they won't go having sex and swallowing semen to grow boobs, not this site's. Thirdly, you can't know somthing isn't true, so a statement like this is no less extreme, deceitful and full o agenda than a statement of a commercial company claiming that their NBE pills are 100% effective.
And sth to add - I find it sad that some women think swallowing semen is bad or wrong or sinful or whaterver. Imo that's a sign of sexual frustration.
This message has been edited by -Moon- on Jul 23, 2007 1:13 PM
lindyrose
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 2:20 PM
To Mousey:
When did first notice your breasts were growing? Do you have to do it everyday? I don't mind doing a little experiment to see if this works for me but I don't know if I can handle doing it everyday... but I'm sure my husband won't mind.
sophie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 3:04 PM
there are girls as young as 13 and 14 on this forum, but they shouldn't be here and are told so. this is the internet, so anyone can find this site. mousey is a married woman and speaking about something that worked for her in the constructs of a marriage. she was also specific about promiscuity. i don't think she said anything wrong, and i don't think the few 13 or 14 year old girls who shouldn't be looking at an NBE board anyway are going to go out and try this! People are free to be comfortable or uncomfortable regarding the topic of sex, but sex within in a marriage? It would be unhealthy if you DIDN'T have sex in a marriage! No religion or culture I know of is morally opposed to sex within a marriage.
Mousey
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To Lindyrose:
July 23 2007, 3:19 PM
To Lindyrose:
"When did first notice your breasts were growing?"
I didn't take my husband seriously at first, so I didn't bother to check or notice anything until maybe about 4 to 6 months when my bras and blouses were getting tight. At first I thought it was due to fluctuations in my weight, but at about 6 months it was undeniable there was something happening, especially when I looked at some old pictures of myself. And I found out I had actually lost a bit of weight too. About 11 months into this, I have a picture of me in a swim suit showing cleavage for the first time in my life. Almost 2 years into this, I was even having heavy hanging D-cup boobs! LOL! I must have worked on the left breast too much as the right one was still C-cup. So I compensated, and now they are more balanced. Now, about 28 months later, I have 2 decent upward bulges, even when lying down on my back.
"Do you have to do it everyday?"
That's what he said. I didn't mind the routine because I had set my mind on spoiling him rotten anyway :-) I do love everything about him, so it wasn't a problem. At first it was tedious when he would instruct me to stick to certain positions and do the same movements over and over, but I got used to it. I was more afraid HE would get bored of me doing the same thing all the time, but he never did :-)
Mousey
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To everyone:
July 23 2007, 4:10 PM
There are a few things I didn't think through too carefully when I started posting messages on this forum. I came here to share and learn more about something that worked for me, and was surprised not to find any solid information about it. It seems some other people have also heard of this thing, but no one has had anything concrete to share about it.
What I didn't realize was how embarrassing and personal this would become. I didn't think there would be 13 or 14-year-old girls looking at this site because I myself did not think about such things at that age. Now suddenly I realize anyone can find their way here, and I don't feel so safe or comfortable anymore. I am supposed to be anonymous, I know, but it's a mental thing to get comfortable or not. What I have written is of course controversial, but some people are just short of calling me a liar. I am just not sure I want to take on this kind of attention, positive or negative. I had promised to submit some pictures, and I intend to keep that promise, pending some questions about privacy which I sent to the administrator. I am sorry to have caused any trouble or made anyone uncomfortable.
After posting and announcing my pictures online to prove I am not lying, I am not sure I how much I will continue to contribute here. I didn't expect to be spearheading some new NBE method/doctrine and defending some theories I didn't make, or answering to questions about demographics and cultural reasons why some ancient knowledge is not more widespread. It's hard enough to answer about things you don't fully understand, and the person who taught you what to do can't fully explain either :-( It would be great if my husband would post here, but I know he doesn't want anything to do with this sort of thing.
here is a link to the Tao of Love book I was writing about:
http://www.trivia-library.com/c/history-...part-1.htm
Erin
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 4:13 PM
EVERYDAY!! Gosh, I was starting to think it was a pain in the a** to swallow all these pills daily. I'm barely keeping up with that.
I have to commend your dedication.
Lost Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 4:50 PM
Mousey, I'm not calling you a liar. I believe that your breasts grew. I just do not believe that semen contributes to breast growth and feel strongly that this is a myth. I probably won't post on the subject again, so don't feel the need to leave if you don't want to.
anon!
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 6:01 PM
Hi Mousey,
I'm willing to try this...
What's the important position you mention?
Also do you think the circular massaging may be responsible for the results? Some girls get results alone from this. Did you do it everyday consistently?
How soon did you achieve a cup size of growth.
Did you put on weight anywhere else during the 2 years?
Did you take the birth control pill?
Sorry for so many questions!
Panda
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 7:54 PM
Erin... you might call it dedication, but sucking cock is way more fun than popping pills!
Davilee
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Dont leave.
July 23 2007, 8:34 PM
I think that what you said Mousey was perfectly fine and very intriging.
Please dont leave because some one was offended.
I believe in all possibilities.I dont like to limit my understanding of things,there are many levels to existence.
We live in the physical and spiritual dimensions,even those who dont except it. Life energies are very interesting.
Read up on Tantric practices for those who want to learn more about what shes talking about,its related i believe.
Blu-Jay
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 9:12 PM
If this were true, that "ahem" will cause breasts to grow, Tomorrow morning There's going to be alot of men showing up for work with smiles on their faces. :-)
:-) :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 9:29 PM
Blue Jay - the woman in you picure is massging her breasts in the wrong direction!!
Blu-Jay
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 23 2007, 10:02 PM
OOPS! Thanks Moon, It's just that darn video keeps playing backwards. :-) Besides that, I couldn't find one of someone massaging the right way. Apparently the makers haven't been reading this forum. :-D
sophie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 5:50 AM
mousey...i don't think anyone was offended by your post at all! i found your post and experience really interesting. there was a recent post on here about intimacy and breast size. when you talk about breasts, it is difficult to not mention sex or sexuality occassionally! my point about the younger girls was that one will pop up once in awhile - not very often. i think you should keep posting and definately post your pictures!
Blu-Jay
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Hey Mousey!
July 24 2007, 7:25 AM
Mousey, don't worry about it. It's an interesting topic,It's new and not very often talked about as opposed to the same old, same old. anybody try wonderup? anybody try vitex? any body try breast gain plus? and so on!
It's refreshing to see some new topics posted.
That's what these forums are all about,Sharing and discussing different Ideas.
People that don,t like these topics should stop being so stuck up. The rest of us have to live with their boring ones too.
So I'll say it, I'm all for your Topic :-) And sex is A Good thing. :-)
Mousey
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Answers
July 24 2007, 12:34 PM
To Lost Sheep:
Very strong feelings indeed. Have you tested it for yourself or know of any studies to determine it is a myth? I've tried it and determined it isn't. You are probably right that semen alone doesn't do the trick, or people could isolate and package semen extracts and put them in syringes or capsules. Those are ideas from Western medicine. This is not what I'm talking about. There are rules (same partner, "chemical" compatibility, body learning and adapting to each other) and Qigong and Tantric-like disciplines involved. If we are going according to what I know, semen is a small but very necessary just part of it, and it has certainly worked for me.
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To Panda:
Yes it is. My husband may be a lucky man but I am a lucky girl to have someone like him who also does a lot for me. He helped me reach sexual levels I had never reached before. But that's another topic for another forum.
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To anon:
"What's the important position you mention?"
The energy flows downwards. You should not have a dominant position, with your body completely above your man. Him lying on a bed while you are on all fours over him is not recommended. The "69" position is also not recommended -- it's better to take turns, one focusing on giving (believe it or not, HE is doing the giving in this concept). As the recipient of the yang energy, a good position is to have him seated comfortably on a couch with you between his knees on some cushions on the floor. That way your hands are also free to do the other required motions as well. If you're used to this form of sex and he knows your limits (doesn't go too deep for you), you don't have to be the one doing all the work. You can find other positions where he is dominanant (flowing down to you) and is doing the moving, while you focus on your own breathing and hand movements. Personally I prefer to be in charge and not worry about getting choked.
"Also do you think the circular massaging may be responsible for the results? Some girls get results alone from this.
I'm sure it's an integral part of it, but maybe what I do can't be called massage per se, as it is mostly sensual skin contact and nipple stimulation. It involves breathing techniques which were very tricky in the beginning, gentle stroking with the finger tips, and cupping with the palms. It's similar to Blu-Jay's animated picture but that looks too much like kneeding dough :-) My movements are more like in a Thai dance. It's not so much about glandular stimulation. This is more about transfering heat and yang energy, I imagine it's almost like discharging static electricity through your hands (you and your man connect to become a powerful battery). Maybe I can give a description of what I do later, if it is appropriate for this forum.
"Did you do it everyday consistently?"
Yes, I did. Took a break when I had a cold (10 days?) -- too hard with blocked nose and sore throat, and also missed 1 week when we were apart.
"How soon did you achieve a cup size of growth."
From B to C, maybe 10 months. From C to D maybe another 10. I am moving from D to DD the last 8 months.
"Did you put on weight anywhere else during the 2 years?"
My weight went up and down, but my breasts kept growing. 2 years ago I was maybe 55kg (121 lbs.), and now I'm usually 56 to 57kg (2 - 4 lbs. more which shows as a bit of fat around my belly:-( ). But I have been as heavy as 66kg in my late teens (145 lbs.) and I still had B-cups then, if that's what you mean.
"Did you take the birth control pill?"
Since my teenage years.
"Sorry for so many questions!"
No problems. Here are some Wiki links I found about some of the things I've been refering to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_elemen...hilosophy)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tui_na
Lost Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 2:59 PM
"Very strong feeling indeed?" I wrote all of two sentences and said it isn't true. Big deal? You seem to be taking this very far and very personally. I cannot believe that you expect everyone to agree with you that semen causes breasts to grow. If you cannot handle criticism or an opposing view, that is your issue. I was actually quite nice about it compared to the reaction you would get from almost any other group of people. I could direct you to numerous health board where you can post your experience and see what I mean. Please, ask a doctor or another message board online and see what replies come up.
Cynthia
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this is great stuff!!!!
July 24 2007, 3:53 PM
Hi Mousey!
I think it's great that you are sharing this information. I also thought that the ladies here were massaging way to hard. Like that picture Blu-jay has posted. Too hard for me.
I give your method a lot of credibility, and if my husband was willing to try it daily, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I, like you, love my husband and would spoil him terribly if he let me. :o)
I am just so grateful for all the information posted here good and bad, whether I believe it or not doesn't really matter, the information is there to be taken as the individual sees fit. It is so important to be well informed in subjects like this. We are all trying to alter our bodies with all sorts of pills, creams, massage methods and sure, why not sex with our mates! Someone mentioned having sex within a union as a very good thing. I agree, in my opinion, if you're not enjoying each other intimately, then something is very wrong with that union as far as I'm concerned.
Tell me, the wiki links that you posted, do they tell you of positioning, and methods that you mentioned? I just find all of this fascinating, so if there is more information that you would like to share and post, by all means, I strongly advise it. :o)
This certainly shines a new light on the NBE methods. Thanks. lol
When I give this some thought, there are places all over this world that people use their minds to self-heal disease, combat depression, and shift all sorts of happenings in their lives in a better direction, so why not this. They also use hypnosis for breast enhancement too. Although this method sounds like a lot more fun. :o)
Snowflake
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 5:26 PM
This is old news, and just as disgusting the second time around. If anyone has the time, it came up about 14 months ago, and there is actually a forum board about this, its in the old thread for the forum address, and yes there was teenage girls willing to give anyone a BJ just to get bigger boobs. Very disgusting and terrilby desperate. Take hormones, drink protein shakes, anything, but really ladies, how low can this forum go?
Curious
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To Snowflake: Where?
July 24 2007, 5:54 PM
I looked through the old threads of May 2006 and couldn't find anything.
pinklemoncake
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 6:24 PM
I don't think the concept of what she is saying is disgusting but Snowflake is right, how long is this going to go on for? I tried one of the first links she posted, it was just about a man who liked to have sex many times a day. Nothing there about breast growth! I'm not a non believer, otherwise I wouldn't be on this site, but people come on get real! I honestly think she is taking the piss!
Nell Gwynne
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 6:30 PM
No I'm sure it's serious, but I'd like to know if there is any evidence that supports this idea.
Snowflake
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For Curious,
July 24 2007, 6:42 PM
I have been trying to find that thread. Can't remeber if it was a "posted" message or a thread with the info. But I do remeber checking out the Forum address at the time and it was just gross the way they were discribing stuff. So when I saw this post I just remembered it from along time ago. Maybe Eve has a way to uncover that topic. And I was also just guessing about how long ago it was, so it could have been in Mar or Apr., or June or July. I did forum search and only broughtup this post now. If older members were still here I am sure they would remeber it, just sad really and I think our forum is more than abit above that anyway, but just my thoughts.
Betty
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 6:44 PM
I'm not sure I understand what is so bad about this...and snowflake it certainly is NOT disgusting when it is done between two consensual, loving, committed, MARRIED partners. Mousey made sure to explain that promiscuity would not yield results in this area, so if people can read they should understand that it will not work if you give BJ's to everyone you see.
To be perfectly honest...chicken feet soup and bovine ovary sound more disgusting to me than this...at least this is from another human... but to each their own.. I am not judging those who chose to use it as it seems to work for them. This forum is for discussion not censorship.
I will echo what a few other posters have already said.. if you are not interested in this topic or are put off by it, then don't read it anymore...no one is twisting your arm and obviously there are people who are intrigued and would like to know more.
Ask, Believe and you will Receive
Mousey
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To pinklemoncake
July 24 2007, 6:52 PM
I wrote: "There was a book written years ago called the Tao of Love, which taught that men should withold their essence -- have ogasms without ejaculating, because to lose semen is to give away life force. I believe that is also taught in some schools of Yoga. From what I understand, those that believe in this essence of life thing are broadly divided into 2 schools of thought - one school believes in sharing and the other in witholding bodily fluids."
The link was to a book that talks about something related. It supports the idea that semen is regarded as life force by the Chinese, and has special properties in it. How one goes about using that life force, storing or dispersing it, is up to the individual. I'm not pulling anyone's leg. But I really think I ought to just shut up now. I had no idea it would go this far either. I don't think what I do is disgusting, and I didn't do it to get bigger breasts, but thanks for your opinion.
Snowflake
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 6:54 PM
Like I said just my thoughts. The forum that I had checked out was not nearly as informative as this one and very grossly descriptive, if I ever find that adress I will post it. But to each their own. I am not trying to shout down this topic but I do have the right to express myself, just the same as those in favour of this topic. And I was trying to find info for those interested.
nowflake
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 7:14 PM
I am not a prude, I guess I just really have to pat Mousey on the back, EVERYDAY,,,, i don't know if that is something that you can get used to taste of, thats all. I couldn't do it, even if it was a 100% proven thing for bigger boobs, sorry!
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 7:45 PM
Okay, don't want to get too graphic but is a certain quantity required or just all of it?
Does it matter if your husband is quite a bit older?
Also I quite agree that chicken's feet and cow's ovary sounds much more disgusting, admittedly every day for 2yrs is amazing but is anyone on here who's married honestly going to say they have never done this?....I'll laugh if this comes up as a survey question!
Tiger Lily
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 24 2007, 7:47 PM
It is good to see this much interest in Chinese ideas, although I can't say I know anything of this one, but I agree that Chinese medicine is made for the individual and aim for results with yin-yang balance.
Corrie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 4:01 AM
I have to say, I think it's lovely that a man and woman would be that connected to be sharing energy and be in alignment with each other. I love it!
fengshui
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to louise
July 25 2007, 6:33 AM
>Does it matter if your husband is quite a bit older?
I would think it might but not necessarily, as I know usually younger men have stronger " chi of yang" than older men. But a healthier older man will have stronger "chi of yang" than an unhealthy younger man.
As in Chinese medicine, the balance of yin and yang can keep both men and women younger and healthier.
I hope mousey will come back to share some more, 'cause the notions her husband told her I have heard or read most of them. Even if I am not up for this method, but for whoever is interested, I would say mostly what mousey worte, most of Chinese over 30 would know or heard about them. It would be interesting to know more.
This message has been edited by fengshuiTW on Jul 25, 2007 6:35 AM
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 6:57 AM
I just have to say this - Lost Sheep, you are the one who is taking this personally and apparently can't handle a pro-sex discussion.
Lost Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 7:54 AM
Ok, Moon. I have zero issues with a sexual discussion whatsoever. It's not offensive in any way to discuss sex, semen, etc. It's simply innaccurate, which was my only comment and point during this entire discussion. You are the one that is so offensive that you start insulting me and saying I'm sexually frustrating, bring an element into it that has nothing to do with my comments. I do not care if people try this method all day long. I just believe in being scientific and reasonable, something that is clearly not the point here.
abby
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 8:46 AM
you guys are crazy to believe on this idea
it is just superstition and the chnaces of success are zero
but when people are desperate enough they will try anything
fengshui
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 8:47 AM
if anybody is interested in Chinese medicine, here is a website of a very good herb doctor. Just get some notions.
http://www.hantang.com/
Lost Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 10:40 AM
Mousy, thank you for introducing something new, informative and fun to this forum. I can't believe that bad feedback you've had from some people here. Girls, if you don't like what she's suggesting, go somewhere else! In here we're open to suggestions, and if you can't handle it, or think it's "disgusting"- god forbid anything of the sort should be DESCRIBED in a forum that deals with our bodies! If you want clean, logical and well- tested methods, go, by all means to your GP or a doctor's forum, but don't lay words in people's mouths or try to make those of us who are open minded seem filthy. So what if it doesn't work? The worst thing that can happen is those of us with steady parnters give each other lots of pleasure.
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 11:51 AM
Lost Sheep - Like I've pointed out before, not having scientific proof doesn't prove that it's not true, which you did claim. That is violation of one of the most basic laws of logic, so ''reasonable'' my ass. And I did not insult you, I never mentioned sexual frustaration and reffered to you personally, so if you interpret it that way and feel insulted, well your problem.
This message has been edited by -Moon- on Jul 25, 2007 11:52 AM
Black Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 2:15 PM
I tried to 'research' this and found it mentioned on another forum. There are claims that semen increases the size of one's butt as well. Be warned that the language is explicit:
http://www.aphroditewomenshealth.com/for...=1&fpart=1
littlelibrarian
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Stop your fighting
July 25 2007, 2:28 PM
You ladies don't even know each other so why are you arguing - don't you get that enough with your kids?! Everyone's allowed to give their opinion and advice - it's your choice whether you take it or not. I'm looking on this board for advice and opinions and really don't feel like scrolling though arguments.
Cynthia
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My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 2:59 PM
Geeze, I've never seen anything like this before. Are you sure you women are all adults? You surely aren't acting like it. Give the girl a break,(Mousy) she is sharing valid, as far as she knows, information with us. What is wrong with that? It's not like shes describing in detail, step by step what she personally does with her husband, and that is because she is sending links to books and information obviously written on that subject. It's also not like shes trying to push it on us either. You read it, take it into consideration, or not, say thank you very much and draw your conclusions or opinions from the information given. Simple, no?
She has diplomatically, and I must say eloquently shared information with a lot of already desperate women willing to take pills, use creams and all sorts of herbs and methods to alter the size of their breasts. Some women have suffered by developing poor health, mastitis, blood clots, infections, and who knows what with these methods. Now tell me, aside from what you've read on the internet, and what you've heard per se, what medical proof or documentation have we all got to validate this stuff that we're doing?
Everyone here is allowed to voice their opinion if they feel they have to, but again, like one woman has said, if this isn't what you want to read, then don't, that's called freedom of choice. If this is something that a 13 year stumbles upon, then it's up to their parents to monitor the childs entertainment, and have another conversation regarding how the body develops. I know I always did.
Keep sending the info Mousy, I find it interesting, and so do a lot of other women, who are happily married - despite what few negative comments may arise. Besides, I'd much rather learn about your method than eating whatever it is their eating containing chicken feet, and for Almighty God's Sake, cow ovaries... No thanks.
Cutie Pie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 5:34 PM
Maybe this link posted just above is the information that Snowflake was looking for.
Another Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 25 2007, 7:45 PM
No Cutie Pie - there was a post that had a link to a page where young girls were discussing whether or not oral sex would help their breasts to grow. It was quite sickening, if I recall correctly they were also saying something about freezing it and drinking it throughout the day. I remember that post when this one first came up, but couldn't find it at all, and still can't find it even after Snowflake mentioned it. Think it might be on the BeBoard - can't remember.
I personally don't give this method alot of credibility. It reminds me alot of all the other "methods" where one person posts about huge growth and everyone jumps on.....but I think someone else refered to that already..........
You ladies try what you like - for me, I refuse to commit everyday for the next 2 years (which by the way points to Mousy for keeping track that long) in the hopes that this method really does work, and it wasn't something else that was causing Mousy to gain boobs. I would also think that overtime there will be a huge disappointment for all those it doesn't work for, and they will actually begin to not enjoy oral sex, or anysex for that matter, and will eventually begin to feel like an object - I find alot of this information mind boggling.
For those that find this topic disgusting, I do have to agree stop reading about it, let them get it out of there system. it will eventually pass - and if you find it really offensive, then report it to a moderator and let them decide.
Nell Gwynne
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 27 2007, 7:51 PM
This whole idea seems very hit or miss (not that I ever understand anything in Chinese medicine very well). It's unclear to me how you would know that someone was suitable to be your partner for this.
Mousey
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To Nell Gwynne
July 29 2007, 2:37 AM
To Nell Gwynne:
I asked my husband about what you said and according to him it's easier to succeed than to fail, because the body learns to adapt even if there is not the best 5-element "chemical" compatibility to start with. And people in long-term relationships experience gradual changes in the "chemistry" anyway.
Someone asked about the age thing. The answer you got was a good one, and FYI my husband is almost 20 years older. He looks 35 though, so that may fall into the all-that-matter-is-he-is-healthy category. :-)
Samantha
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 29 2007, 3:23 AM
Just curious about the circular massage and position. I'd be willing to give this a try if I knew exactly what type of massage is needed. I'm sure my husband wouldn't mind..
No Name Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 29 2007, 7:13 AM
I want to say thank you, Mousey, for sharing this.
WiccanWoman
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 30 2007, 11:51 AM
Well Girls I read this during my break for my health and decided to try a "New twist" to my program.
First off, this is a married loving couple. There is nothing gross what so ever about what they do..or any loving couple doing anything intimate ! Really I don't understand how anyone would get thier knickers in a twist over this unless they are very close minded, ignorant or just plain mean. Whatever reason its just cruel to degrate something so personal that this women offered to share for the sake of helping.
Now. I am married myself and talked about this to my Husband. He didn't make it out to be some perverse way to get his pleasure but instead from a scientific manner and agreed it might have some value to it. As most of you know I tend to prefer topical methods instead of taking herbs orally..
So after a break from my GY program and all herbs... (loss of 1 inch on break for a total gain of 2 inches for 7 weeks of GY) I started back up by having my Husband apply his semen directly onto my breasts, let dry (yes I rubbed it in) then wash with very warm water and apply Greenbush herb extracts and finish with a very quick massage of EPO/Cocoa oil/pumpkin seed oil blend used very sparingly.
I have been doing this for 3 days and..you know what ?
Igot the inch back I lost. I am amazed. It occcured to me that all the protein I had been making myself eat/injest was being wasted because very little was going to my breasts but to my belly instead (yuck not the effect I wanted) so why not apply a concentrated form of high protein liquid directly to my breasts ?
To me it makes sense and it is working. So Thank you Mousey for sharing this, you gave me a wonderful idea that is helping me !
gingerD
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Mousy well done love
July 30 2007, 12:49 PM
Right well im back and i have to say iv not enjoyed reading a tread as much in ages, iv chuckled myself nearly off my chair-
MY THAUGHTS.
1.-what an excellent way to get a gobble/blow job every day for a man, he must be smiling from ear to ear (men all over the world would c him as a god)
2.-Its not disgusting, its nice, and if it was proven id not be apposed to storing it up , freezing it, and even using it as salad dressing,
3.Using for massage, sounds a good idea it feels nice when on the breast anyway, and if you arent that confident in the bedroom, believe me hubby/fella etc would be very pleased, so that is a bonus!
4.i would say it is possible for sperm and semen to have health benefits wether for NBE is another matter. it is full of chemicals and minerals, sugar, calcium, chlorine, magnesium, nitrogen, vitamin B12, and zinc
5.I think that semun/spunk for NBE has as much credit as many other forms of NBE some are aload of **** others plausable,lets say if it is worth ago,it will be much more fun than many other forms,id rather be gobbling semen than causing myself to become engorged doing GY
6.I have my doubts,and there are no scientific reasonings behind this method
but mousy you are one heck of a good wife, your man aint eva going anywere, good tip for us all on how to keep a man and if we grow boobies even better, keep smiling love
Cheers for making me smile
Alcest
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 30 2007, 2:16 PM
Uh, what "chemicals" are in sperm Ginger?? =/
gingerD
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Alcest
July 30 2007, 4:47 PM
Hi alcest hope you are good
Here is what iv found out about spunk today
Human seminal fluid chemical concentrations are typically similar to or lower than blood concentrations
I.E what ever chemicals e.g paracetamol/cocaine etc in the blood will also be present in semen(just google chemicals in semen) or read this interesting article on cocaine in semen
http://www.sciences.com/professionals/pu...cialli.pdf
and interestingly (iv been reading-that semen is absorbed through the viginal walls and people who have more sex generally are less depressed as the hormones in semen which are: testosterone, oestrogen, follicle-stimulating hormone, luteinising hormone, prolactin and several different prostaglandins. Some of these have been detected in a women's blood within hours of exposure to semen.
The question many people will ask is whether oral sex could have the same mood-enhancing effects.
"I understand that among some gay males who have anal intercourse, it is not uncommon to attempt to retain the semen for extended periods of time," he adds. "Suggesting, of course, that there may be psychological effects." But further research will be needed to confirm whether exposure to semen through oral or anal sex really does affect mood in heterosexual or homosexual partners.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2457
Hope this is interesting 4 ya GD
This message has been edited by gingerD on Jul 30, 2007 4:49 PM
Natasha
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 30 2007, 5:47 PM
So we seem to be saying now that you could get the same effect from drinking somebody's blood, since blood has the same properties. So if there are any vampires reading this perhaps they could comment?
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 31 2007, 11:43 AM
I just wanted to state this fact - if sperm does conain proteins and you aplly it to the breasts, the proteins are not absorbed throgh the skin, nor are fats, because these are too big molecules.
This message has been edited by -Moon- on Jul 31, 2007 3:15 PM
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 31 2007, 7:26 PM
Moon, not doubting that you know a lot more about all this than I do but how does progesterone cream absorb as hormones are all proteins? Are you saying the man's specific proteins are larger molecules?
k
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 31 2007, 8:31 PM
louise,
i don't think she knows what she's talking about.
sophie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 31 2007, 9:12 PM
the molecules may not be absorbed through the skin, but semen does tighten your pores, much in the same way that an egg mask does. of course, the effects are temporary, but if you do it often, just as with many temporary things, it still benefits the skin each time. on that note, it's all relative. i hate eggs. I wouldn't eat an egg if you gave me 100 dollars. i would eat one for 1,000 maybe, but only because i really need the money. i just really, really hate eggs. i hate the idea of an egg and i dislike the taste. but semen? never bothered me. i'm a 27 year old woman and have been with the same person for a long time. i really love everything about him - even that. I don't think there is anything wrong with liking semen or disliking it. there really is no right or wrong in terms of this being mentally or morally abhorrant. but ginger, refrain from using the word "spunk;" the term "baby batter" is so much more appealing.
WiccanWoman
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
July 31 2007, 9:13 PM
Its prolly the same as the old cococa butter/oils debate..while it works for some it doesn't seem to work for others just with any form and NBE.
All I know is topically does seem to work better for me that orally for all NBE methods. And wow prolactin and so many of the things we need for NBE are in semen..who knew ?!
It indeed does feel very good on the breasts, afterward I experience lots of tingling and pains and nothing else so far had given me that. This is just an awesome find IMO.
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 9:51 AM
Moon, I think you do know what you're talking about and was asking for clarification not trying to be rude
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 10:44 AM
Louise - No worry hun, you were not rude at all, and you posed a good question.
In response to that, not all hormones are proteins. Progesterone belogns to the group of steroid hormones, which are sterols - synthetised from cholesterol. Sterols have a disctinctive carbon structure of 4 fused rings:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterols
K - Oh really, and from what do you infer that? You don't suppose you'd have to know me to say that, do you, nooo of course not. Sorry but that was plan stupid. For your information, I'm a student of medicine so you can bet I very well know what I'm talking about.
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 10:58 AM
Yeah, there was a big dispute on the cocoa butter, but it again came down to the fact that no matter how much fatty acids (building blocks of fats which are absorbed) you get throguh the skin in the breast, they ain't gonna stay in the breast, but go into the blood and straight to your but, tighs, belly or werever you're predisposed to store fat. That is, if CB even cotnains fatty acids and not only fats.
Topicals may be great for the skin, which can improve the look of the breast. If I'm not mistaking tightening pores of the skin on the breasts causes water retention and so they look bigger (not completely sure about this one tho), but all that doesn't cause breast growth. But still a lot can be done with them particulary for shape and lifting.
Sperm does seem to contain a lot of stuff great for NBE. If this is in fact so, however, swallowing it would still make better use of them than appying on the skin. But amybe best a little of both. -Omg this post just souned so weird lol!
This message has been edited by -Moon- on Aug 1, 2007 11:00 AM
gingerD
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 11:03 AM
Sophie,i dont even call it that my self,
anyway but i kind of like Luv Juice as a word Its like a cook program,
after squeezing 25ml of luv juice into a jug blend 6 borage flowers and 3 pinches of ground fennel seed mix together with geletine and set in the fridge for 2 hours.
when set add 3slices of papaya and serve with a sprinkling of fenugreek-YUM YUM
LOL
Il pay some one 100$ t try it, but i need video evidence ILMAO
k
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 12:11 PM
There is a huge difference between being a student and being a certified doctor.
Suzy
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 3:44 PM
I don't understand why people have to be so discourteous. I have always found Moon to be extremely knowledgeable and a very valued member of this forum. Noone using the forum has to accept what another has to say, they have only to consider it. The very nature of the subject of nbe means that we are ALL learning.
Snowflake
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 4:09 PM
I have to agree with Suzy, if there are so many Doctor's educated opinions on this subject(NOT), why do we have this forum. We are all just here learn what info we can because resourses are slim to none out there. Keep the info coming ladies, whether I agree or not I still like to see it popping up. In fact, I would love a Doctor to come on the forum, we would still probably teach him a thing or two. Anyway, take care and best of luck EVERYONE, on your boob quest!
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 4:48 PM
"There is a huge difference between being a student and being a certified doctor."
Aha, and where did I claim to be a certified doctor intead of a med student, or where did I make a claim that would recquire a diploma to be credible? Do you know what is the difference between a student and a doctor in terms of biochemistry knowledge? Several years in which the doctor can forget most of the biochemistry he/she learnt, because it's a theoretical background for medicine, but not practical, not something doctors deal with most of their time. My biochemistry exam is still pretty recent however. Not that that matters in any way. What I said about absorption is a well known scientific fact that can be read in any textbook on biochemistry.
I can't believe I'm engaging in an argument like this, it's so beneath my intelectual level.
@Suzy - Thank you for nice words. *blushes* :I I come up with a new idea from time to time, but I have to say that in terms of specifically NBE related reasearch, I've done a lot less than some of the oldest and most experienced members arround here.
Very true, info is very scarse in our field, which is why I emphasise going with the dynamic changing guidelines and trying out new things, to get as much practice as possible, since practice is our main source of information.
@Ginger - Looololol, call it The Love Coctail, hahaha!
Black Sheep
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 6:51 PM
You get yourself all worked up (boasting how much "education" you have), yet I don't see any "factual" evidence provided.
So, you must have lots of biochemistry books handy. Point to a good reference in one of them, please.
sophie
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 1 2007, 8:59 PM
moon - i knew you had to either a student of medicine or some science...totally makes sense now! and i concur with suzy and others i am sure that your knowledge is definately most welcome and helpful. and your posts carry no air of pretension whatsoever. you are precisely correct in regard to the distinction between the practical aspects of a medical education and the science required to learn the practice of medicine. what area of medicine are you interested in practicing? not sure how medicine works in your country.
ginger - i think you just whipped up a delicious nbe receipe! mmmmm! work out the exact proportions and i'm game! perhaps you and moon can develop a receipe for an egg substitute. nbe chocolate cake...nbe pancakes...think of the possibilities! watch out wonderup...
Alcest
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 2 2007, 12:13 AM
Okay women stop with the anonymous note bull**** like we're in 8th grade please. It's so freaking pansy-ass. If you don't have something nice to say SAY IT FOR REAL OR SHUT UP.
=) Other than that I'm not getting into this. Ciao.
Jen
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 2 2007, 5:22 AM
*adds bf love potion to program*
I'm going for it, lol
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 2 2007, 5:44 PM
Hi Moon, following the same theory would you agree that there is no benefit from applying collagen directly to boobs (or wrinkles!) as it's too big to absorb? I'm pretty sure collagen is a large molecule but my student days were quite a while ago.
Cynthia
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herbs
August 2 2007, 5:47 PM
Hi Moon,
I have a question for you, maybe you can help, and maybe not. Anyway, I just read that you are a student of medicine. I wondered if you could give us a list of herbs that would help to enhance the PM we're all taking? Maybe tell us where we can find a list and their recommended dosages, so we can try them. Thanks Moon.
Cynthia :o)
WiccanWoman
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 3 2007, 5:00 AM
You know I can't believe all this arguing, this is why I left the forun for a while in the first place. I came back and found something helpfull that is working there is no temp swelling about it, its WORKING. Even my family is impressed and noticed the change.
Why if this forum is to help people or you so dead set on insisting that this could not work topicaly ? If someone posts on here thrilled with glee that eatting fruit loops upside down under an apple tree works for her I'd be thrilled for her and supportive. Maybe the thought that it IS working is enough to mentally boost your body into action as well, the point is negativity won't help anyone here.
Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion about things, but I'd like to see less negativity on the boards..can't we all just get along ?
Remember we all are here for the same reason and are all different and different methods as we all know work for some and not others. Doesn't make them right or wrong.
This message has been edited by WiccanWoman123 on Aug 3, 2007 5:01 AM
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 3 2007, 7:33 AM
Hi Louise, that is correct, collagen does not peneterate the skin. It creates a water impereable layer on the skin causing it to retain moisture. I would rather advise oral implication of collagen.
Here are a couple of articles on skin absorption I googled:
http://molinterv.aspetjournals.org/cgi/c...ll/4/6/308
http://www.abc.net.au/cgi-bin/common/pri...efault.htm
I will cite a few pasages and explain:
"These "successful" substances (which penetrate the skin) are characterized by low molecular weight (less than 500 Da), lipophilicity, and effectiveness at low dosage."
Proteins have a molecular weight of a few thousand Da up to several milion Da. A protein is an amino acid chain containing at least 50 amino acids (smaller are aclled peptides). Most proteins are thousands of amino acids long. One of the smallest proteins is the hormone insulin - 51 amino acids, and it has the molecular weight of 5808 Da. So we can see from the molecular weight of the smalest proteins that none can be absorbed throguh the skin under normal corcumstances.
The secon article says this about dermal application of collagen and elastin:
"Despite the claims, adding elastin and collagen has no effect on the skin, except to retain moisture; the size of molecules means they can't be delivered across the skin."
Hope this helped.
Hi Cynthia, I'm sorry I can't help you there. It's a very specific NBE related question and I have not used PM so I didn't do much research on it. Ginger opened a topic with that exact question a few days ago, some PM user should know the answer.
This message has been edited by -Moon- on Aug 3, 2007 7:35 AM
Jennelle
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 3 2007, 8:59 AM
WiccanWoman's point of view seems to be pointless. After all, what use would a forum be if the people in it weren't stating what they really believed? And because sometimes people believe different things that inevitably involves some argument. Isn't her ideal of a forum without argument rather like music without instruments?
Moon
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 3 2007, 9:59 AM
I think along the same lines as Jenelle. While I don't intentionally look for arguments, I won't be quiet for the sake of niceness and sweetness and pink-flowerness. This forum is pink enough as it is, literally. :p There is nothing wrong with not agreeing and not getting along with everyone, it shows that people are different and that they have standards, that they think. A world where everyone would like everyone would be a world of mindless clones.
littledrummergirl
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Too many women in one place
August 3 2007, 12:48 PM
Wow it really is true. Having this many women in one place makes for a lot of bitching! and we're not even all in the same place physically! Anyway just want to point out a little something to support this semen idea, but it's directly related to the semen exactly. Sex is all about hormones on the most basic level, so daily sexual activity, no matter what kind really, causes fluctuations in hormone release and synthesis. More sex for women means more of these hormones that we are all trying to simulate using herbs. So OF COURSE IT COULD HELP! having a healthy sex life with a loving partner also makes people very happy, they have more endorphins, are healthier in general, and so yeah, it can definitely make breasts grow. Semen is just like a multivitamin. It comes from someone's body so it contains many of the things that their body does, it really is good for you. Anyone who is trying this method, keep it up, and let me know how it goes! I have great faith, in fact I'll try it myself as well.
before anyone tries to tell me that I don't know what i'm talking about, I am a medical student, in my sixth year of study, and I do know what I'm talking about. Can we all please be happy and nice to each other? this forum is about helping and supporting each other isn't it? just because we've never heard of something doesn't mean it's not true. And judging by what I've seen on here, the asian girls seem to do the best with their growth, so maybe we should all have a closer look at the chinese medicines etc
Snowflake
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 3 2007, 1:55 PM
This thread is already so long, so I figure what the heck. So I'll ask,,, What would female juices, for lack of another word, do to a man. Our juices must have good properties as well if there is anything to this theory. So can anyone answer this for me?
Louise
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Re: My breasts have grown from yang balance through *ahem*
August 3 2007, 7:09 PM
Not sure it works the other way round as I think it's the actual sperm that contain proteins / hormones etc not the seminal fluid and women's fluid is just lubrication (possibly with some friendly bacteria!) If you could get enough eggs together then maybe that would be similar but seeing as you only produce 1-2 per month don't know how you'd go about it.
Without being bitchy after studying science for 6yrs (Optometry) I would prefer to try things that have either a scientific basis or a scientific maybe rather than be proven to not work. Some people have had results with Erdic, some people say that anal sex allows higher absorption of hormones through the colon but there are so many environmental factors we can't control that there is possibly another explanation for all these things.
Thanks Moon for your responses, would t