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Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 6 2009 at 5:48 PM
tinaz (Login tinaz408)
SENIOR MEMBER
I wanted to know if I could take noogleberry along with BO, PM, or Herbs. If I noggle and take pills will that give me a better chance of keeping my results?
Also, I wanted to know if I noogle will EVENTUALLY see permanent results? I went to the noogleberry website and checked out the forum and the pictures people have posted. I have seen alot of good results, but I wonder if when they stop will they still have some gains? How do you feel about going up and down? For me, it would be an emotional rollercoster! I would be ahppy with my size then after a few hours it would go back down.
I did breastfeed 2 kids and I am deflated. I feel by pumping it could give me the full look am I going for! The implant look. How long would I have to noogle for, until it becomes permanent?
Any other tips/suggestions you could give me?
Thanks alot, and I am so glad you are on this forum!
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 6 2009, 8:44 PM
Hi Tinaz,
There is absolutely no reason you can't take other things while you do the Noogleberry. If you respond to the other stuff - great. The suction will make it easier for your breasts to expand. It might help you keep results. There are so many variables it would be hard to say. But I can say with some certainty that the Noogle would not detract from your results with other things.
Permanent results with the Noogle takes time. A lot of time. Tissue expansion is a proven method of creating new tissue. It is used in many cases of injury to regrow skin or other tissue. Brava has proven it can produce permanent results in breast tissue. However, these other methods of tissue expansion use devices that are worn for many hours per day. The 12 plus hours per day of Brava will allow some to achieve results in 10 weeks, but some don't have results until 30 plus weeks.
Noogle works by the same principle as Brava, but since the suction to the breast is only for 1 - 2 hours per day it does not grow tissue at the same rate. I reason that if Brava can see results at 12 hours per day in 10 weeks then the minimum amount of time is 840 hours of suction (12x7x10 = 840). This means maybe 840 days of Noogle or if you can do it 2 hours per day then 420 days to maybe see some permanent results of about 1/2 to 1 cup.
So that makes it sound like a bad idea - but wait... there is more to it than that. Most women begin to see swelling that lasts up to 12 hours within 1 to 2 months of use. The swelling can create 1 - 3 cup sizes difference. That's right - some have gained from an A to a C cup with this method alone. To maintain this size they either continue to pump daily (those who want permanent gains) or they pump 2 to 3 times per week to just maintain the size.
Sounds too good to be true - but it works in many of the women who try it. Do some not respond well - yes - some are slow starters and it seems to take ages before they have sustained swelling.
We all have a different response to negative pressure suction. Those who have a more elastic skin will swell quickly and may or may not retain the swelling. Those who have less elastic skin have a slower response.
Methods of pumping also effect the outcome. There is a pump and hold technique where basically the suction is created and then left the same for 15 minutes to an hour or more. There is also the pump and release method where the breasts are suctioned then pressure is released throughout the session.
The best responses I have read are those who Noogle at least twice per day. This keeps the swelling more consistent. There seems to be little evidence that Noogling for greater than 1 hour per session has much benefit - but there have been some who have done it for up to 4 hours at a time. This is not necessary for most and can create some skin issues and rib pains.
The going up and down was not a big deal to me. I was not a big responder in that I gained only about a cup more during the session - I guess I don't have elastic skin or something. My sustained gains began about the second month of use and by the time I had to take a break I could go a day or more and still have the sustained size. Now of course when you first take the domes off you are met with these gargantuan boob monsters but they settle without the pressure. I think some people's perceptions of 'losing swelling' is just the fact that without the dome the breast cannot support its weight and stand up like they do when first decanted. Reportedly some husbands minds have been blown in viewing the just undomed breasts of their wives (especially in the above C cup category).
For you the fact that you breast fed would be a benefit because your skin would stretch more easily. Yes, it will likely give you the implant look... lol. The suction creates an effect at the top of the breast as well as the middle and bottom. You have seen the pics so you know what I mean.
As far as tips. Keep hydrated. Massage only before sessions, not after as this will likely reduce swelling. Be patient - you won't know how you will respond until you try. Don't get discouraged if your swelling fades. It is just a sign of things to come.
Read the Noogle forum and you will get a whole lot of info. Email Lucy before purchase to decide which dome size would work best for you (you will love Lucy). Don't pump harshly - get the pump with the gauge so you can keep things under control. Use lotion around the rim of the dome to create a tight seal. Check out all the Noogle tips for creating cushions for the dome rims.
Keep us posted on your progress. Your experiences will add to the ever increasing body of knowledge about NBE.
I hope I have answered your questions. Ask more if you like.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
tinaz
(Login tinaz408)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 7 2009, 1:19 AM
I will take either PM, or BO, maybe even herbs again. No, not herbs again! They didnt agree with my system. So if I am growing with the PM or BO and I expand with the noogleberry and go back down will not go smaller then I was before and my gains from the PM or BO will stay?
I guess it is good that the growth can be permanent, after some time. I am in this for the long haul anyhow so whatever it takes for me to get to the size I want (a full D). I am very determined to get what I want and I will let nothing stop me from achieving my goal, especially seeing Kieyah pictures and hearing her story, she gives me hope.
What I dont get is how you can see results by pumping so little? With brava I get it, your pumping for 12 hours! MY gosh, you should see an increase after pumping for so darn long! I know they are very expensive compared to noogleberry.
Going from my A cup to a C cup is like a dream come true! That would be great to keep it for 12 hours and then pump again. Can I noogle more than twice a day? Soon I will be working from home, so I will be able to pump more than twice a day.
My main concern is the marks it leaves. Do these marks disappear throughout the day? Do they become permanent after noogling for so long? If I will get these marks then it may not be a good idea to pump right before I have to go to work, right? When is the best time for pumping?
So you have kept your 1 cup increase even after 12 hrs? Yes, I am going for the implant look now, but they will be my own! So because I already have loose/stretched skin I would see good results? I am not sure how having breastfed helps me?
Your right I will not know how I respond to it unless I try. I was thinking about this method before, but when I contacted lucy she gave me the impression that I should not expect permanent gains and right away it turned me off. Is it a manual pump or electric? How does it work?
Lastly (I know its been a long post)
, if I drink protein shake right after pumping will this help me to retain my results? When should I take my other NBE pills if I am pumping?
Thanks for the comprehensive guide to noogleberry, I knew I could count on you waxingmoon!
tinaz
(Login tinaz408)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 7 2009, 1:24 AM
Like I could have forgotten anything but I did.
I was wondering about the nipples. Do they get bigger? Is there anything I can do to prevent them from getting bigger? Do they hurt from the suction?
Thanks again. (I think we are going to become great friends!)
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 7 2009, 4:20 AM
Hi Tinaz,
There is a difference in the Brava versus the Noogleberry more than just session time. The Brava domes are a different shape and have a silicone edge to them. The Brava system uses less pressure and from what I have surmised from the women who use it there is also a difference in the area suctioned. I can't remember if it is larger or smaller area - but it is different.
I started out Noogling in July of 2008 and was very consistent until about February of 2009. I generally did a session twice a day starting with 20 - 30 minute session and then by the end was up to two 45 - 1 hr sessions. From my program page I was talking in September of 2008 of having noticed a size difference that remained throughout the day. I usually pumped in the mornings before work (while reading the forum usually) and after I got home from work before bed. Computer time or TV time is great Noogling time.
The marks were somewhat noticeable for at least 2 hours after Noogling in the am and completely gone in the mornings after my evening session. I did not have any sustained redness or red dots like some other women. All I had was a slight circular ring - not very noticeable, but I never wore a shirt that let it show... too self conscious.
The women who had been pregnant seemed to report the largest increases during suction. They filled up their domes in no time and would move on to the next size. This seemed to help some with swelling retention, but others didn't seem to retain any faster than those who had never been pregnant. Think of it this way. It is much easier to blow up a balloon once you have already blown it up before. The breast feeding is neither here nor there. It is merely that you have been larger before that gives you some potential benefit. Same goes for women who were larger before losing weight.
Lucy is very honest. There are no scientific studies on Noogle like there are on Brava. There will be no permanent gains right away. The persistence needed for permanent gains with Noogle are probably not going to appeal to most. The pump is manual and very easy to use. The pump attaches to the domes and you squeeze a trigger which sucks the air out of the domes. It does not take very many squeezes to reach the desired effect. However, expect some frustration at first as you juggle holding the domes and creating a seal and pumping all at once. Once you have the device I can guide you through step by step.
Protein shakes are a great idea. After all, you can't build a brick wall without bricks. Your body needs the raw ingredients and protein is key. Of course it does not have to be right after pumping, but it seems that keeping hydrated is a good idea and you might as well get into a routine. Take your other pills when it suits you the most. It takes time for the body to digest things so timing is not crucial. Consistency is crucial.
Be persistent and be consistent and the Noogle can work for you.
About the nipples. Some women found this was a problem. They used waterproof bandaids to keep the suction effect off the nipple. There are several posts on the Noogleberry forum regarding this. It was not a problem for me.
I am always glad to share what I know. By the way just in case anyone reading this thinks I am spamming for Noogle - nope. I talk about it fondly because it has been a great benefit for me.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
P.S. I have not mentioned it in these posts but I am currently not Noogling because of a persistent fibrocystic issue in my breasts as a result of estrogen dominance. That is why I stopped in February of this year and have not been able to return to it. The noogle did not cause the fibrocyst - I have had this before when my hormones were unbalanced. The noogling just makes the fibrocyst swell which hurts. I am eagerly awaiting returning to noogling once I get my hormone situation resolved. In the months I noogled from July of 08 to February of 09 I went from a small B to almost a C cup. I lost most of my gains however since I had to stop. There has been a change in the top portion of my breast of about a half cup size - permanent change. Also, the shape of my breasts has remained different - wider and seemingly heavier since noogling. I feel there was some permanent change all over the breast but not very much. Pretty good for such a short time I think.
This message has been edited by waxingmoon on Jul 7, 2009 5:00 AM
tinaz
(Login tinaz408)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 7 2009, 6:12 AM
Thanks so much, you dont understand what this means to me!!!
I think I finally may have figured out what was missing all this years, a breast pump system like noogleberry. I was thinking to start out with about 20-30 minutes then work my way up to 1 hr three times a day (not for a while). I have decided to get it because the price is not bad. Lucy also had told me that if I dont like it I could return, but she was sure that I would like it. According to the forum, it seems like alot of people like it.
Now that it is summer, it will be hard for me to not show my marks. But, I will be working inside so I could just wear a sweater until I get off from work. Off topic, I just got a job, which is hard to find in a recession! Once I receive my first paycheck I will buy noogleberry, because the forum pictures convinced me and the info you provided helped me to make my decision.
I am hoping that by taking other things like collagen, protein shake, and BO (probably), will help me to keep my results once I stop. I know that all those things could only help. Especially if you have retained your growth. But what is really good about noogling is you can do it anytime! Once you buy it, thats it! You have to keep repurchasing pills or other things years down the line if you want to increase again. I think that is the main reason I will buy it.
I will take pictures before I start noogling just so I can see if there is a difference after the swelling goes down. I am convinced though that I will see good results, I am the most positive I have ever been about an NBE program and I tried many! I think that is a major part of any NBE program. At this point in my life, I am starting to feel content about my life, which took some time to get to. I think the NBE is just one of the last things I wanted to fall in place. Its kind of a hard thing to explain.
Thank you for everything I will keep you posted on my results when I get this noogleberry. I will order it next Friday when I get paid.
tinaz
(Login tinaz408)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 19 2009, 11:58 PM
Hi Waxingmoon,
I have more questions for you. And bumping up my last comments/questions.
I have ordered the NB, you were very helpful in allowing me to make a decision. I am anxiously awaiting for my NB to arrive.
I asked Lucy but she said that I should ask NB Forum members, which you are a very knowledgeable one! So, my main question is if I use BO (1800 mg) and Protein shakes (75 grams of protein) daily will that help with my NB results? Will I see faster rentention by using BO, Swiss Lamb Placenta, and Protein/Amino Acids?
Is there anything I can do to see faster results?
Thanks.
waxingmoon
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 20 2009, 1:20 AM
Hi Tinaz,
No one can answer whether you will respond to a certain program. There are so many variables that we just cannot predict your response.
If you are going to use bovine ovary then you should definitely increase your protein, so your plan has merit. If indeed your body responds to the BO then yes, you will likely have an improvement in your results over Noogleberry alone.
However, you will need to proceed with the BO for a long enough time in order for that type of NBE to become permanent. If you stop too soon your results will likely fade.
I don't think you should think of combining routines as a sort of 'fix' for the Noogleberry. Here is what you will likely create with both routines. The BO *if you respond to it* will stimulate breast growth. The Noogleberry will enhance your size through swelling. The combined effect could make your results larger than using one alone - but neither effect speeds up the permanence of the other. What you gain with BO will be what you would gain with that method - as permanent or as temporary as BO can accomplish. What you gain with Noogleberry will be what you gain with suction method - temporary until you have done the large number of hours necessary for permanent tissue growth.
From the results on Noogleberry forum I gather that some women do combine it with other methods. I cannot say those that combine the Noogle with another thing grown any faster or keep their results more than those who use Noogle alone. It might be the case, but there is not enough information to make a judgment.
Do what feels right for you. Certainly using BO together with Noogle will not affect your results in a negative way. I hope I have answered your question.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
tinaz
(Login tinaz408)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 20 2009, 4:30 AM
Thanks Waxingmoon.
Yes, you did answer my question. The main thing I wanted to know was if taking the 2 would be beneficial to me or would harm me. I am hoping that the extra "help" from the BO and protein would help me to retain my growth but I guess we will see when I actually start.
July 6 2009 at 5:48 PM
tinaz (Login tinaz408)
SENIOR MEMBER
I wanted to know if I could take noogleberry along with BO, PM, or Herbs. If I noggle and take pills will that give me a better chance of keeping my results?
Also, I wanted to know if I noogle will EVENTUALLY see permanent results? I went to the noogleberry website and checked out the forum and the pictures people have posted. I have seen alot of good results, but I wonder if when they stop will they still have some gains? How do you feel about going up and down? For me, it would be an emotional rollercoster! I would be ahppy with my size then after a few hours it would go back down.
I did breastfeed 2 kids and I am deflated. I feel by pumping it could give me the full look am I going for! The implant look. How long would I have to noogle for, until it becomes permanent?
Any other tips/suggestions you could give me?
Thanks alot, and I am so glad you are on this forum!
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 6 2009, 8:44 PM
Hi Tinaz,
There is absolutely no reason you can't take other things while you do the Noogleberry. If you respond to the other stuff - great. The suction will make it easier for your breasts to expand. It might help you keep results. There are so many variables it would be hard to say. But I can say with some certainty that the Noogle would not detract from your results with other things.
Permanent results with the Noogle takes time. A lot of time. Tissue expansion is a proven method of creating new tissue. It is used in many cases of injury to regrow skin or other tissue. Brava has proven it can produce permanent results in breast tissue. However, these other methods of tissue expansion use devices that are worn for many hours per day. The 12 plus hours per day of Brava will allow some to achieve results in 10 weeks, but some don't have results until 30 plus weeks.
Noogle works by the same principle as Brava, but since the suction to the breast is only for 1 - 2 hours per day it does not grow tissue at the same rate. I reason that if Brava can see results at 12 hours per day in 10 weeks then the minimum amount of time is 840 hours of suction (12x7x10 = 840). This means maybe 840 days of Noogle or if you can do it 2 hours per day then 420 days to maybe see some permanent results of about 1/2 to 1 cup.
So that makes it sound like a bad idea - but wait... there is more to it than that. Most women begin to see swelling that lasts up to 12 hours within 1 to 2 months of use. The swelling can create 1 - 3 cup sizes difference. That's right - some have gained from an A to a C cup with this method alone. To maintain this size they either continue to pump daily (those who want permanent gains) or they pump 2 to 3 times per week to just maintain the size.
Sounds too good to be true - but it works in many of the women who try it. Do some not respond well - yes - some are slow starters and it seems to take ages before they have sustained swelling.
We all have a different response to negative pressure suction. Those who have a more elastic skin will swell quickly and may or may not retain the swelling. Those who have less elastic skin have a slower response.
Methods of pumping also effect the outcome. There is a pump and hold technique where basically the suction is created and then left the same for 15 minutes to an hour or more. There is also the pump and release method where the breasts are suctioned then pressure is released throughout the session.
The best responses I have read are those who Noogle at least twice per day. This keeps the swelling more consistent. There seems to be little evidence that Noogling for greater than 1 hour per session has much benefit - but there have been some who have done it for up to 4 hours at a time. This is not necessary for most and can create some skin issues and rib pains.
The going up and down was not a big deal to me. I was not a big responder in that I gained only about a cup more during the session - I guess I don't have elastic skin or something. My sustained gains began about the second month of use and by the time I had to take a break I could go a day or more and still have the sustained size. Now of course when you first take the domes off you are met with these gargantuan boob monsters but they settle without the pressure. I think some people's perceptions of 'losing swelling' is just the fact that without the dome the breast cannot support its weight and stand up like they do when first decanted. Reportedly some husbands minds have been blown in viewing the just undomed breasts of their wives (especially in the above C cup category).
For you the fact that you breast fed would be a benefit because your skin would stretch more easily. Yes, it will likely give you the implant look... lol. The suction creates an effect at the top of the breast as well as the middle and bottom. You have seen the pics so you know what I mean.
As far as tips. Keep hydrated. Massage only before sessions, not after as this will likely reduce swelling. Be patient - you won't know how you will respond until you try. Don't get discouraged if your swelling fades. It is just a sign of things to come.
Read the Noogle forum and you will get a whole lot of info. Email Lucy before purchase to decide which dome size would work best for you (you will love Lucy). Don't pump harshly - get the pump with the gauge so you can keep things under control. Use lotion around the rim of the dome to create a tight seal. Check out all the Noogle tips for creating cushions for the dome rims.
Keep us posted on your progress. Your experiences will add to the ever increasing body of knowledge about NBE.
I hope I have answered your questions. Ask more if you like.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
tinaz
(Login tinaz408)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 7 2009, 1:19 AM
I will take either PM, or BO, maybe even herbs again. No, not herbs again! They didnt agree with my system. So if I am growing with the PM or BO and I expand with the noogleberry and go back down will not go smaller then I was before and my gains from the PM or BO will stay?
I guess it is good that the growth can be permanent, after some time. I am in this for the long haul anyhow so whatever it takes for me to get to the size I want (a full D). I am very determined to get what I want and I will let nothing stop me from achieving my goal, especially seeing Kieyah pictures and hearing her story, she gives me hope.
What I dont get is how you can see results by pumping so little? With brava I get it, your pumping for 12 hours! MY gosh, you should see an increase after pumping for so darn long! I know they are very expensive compared to noogleberry.
Going from my A cup to a C cup is like a dream come true! That would be great to keep it for 12 hours and then pump again. Can I noogle more than twice a day? Soon I will be working from home, so I will be able to pump more than twice a day.
My main concern is the marks it leaves. Do these marks disappear throughout the day? Do they become permanent after noogling for so long? If I will get these marks then it may not be a good idea to pump right before I have to go to work, right? When is the best time for pumping?
So you have kept your 1 cup increase even after 12 hrs? Yes, I am going for the implant look now, but they will be my own! So because I already have loose/stretched skin I would see good results? I am not sure how having breastfed helps me?
Your right I will not know how I respond to it unless I try. I was thinking about this method before, but when I contacted lucy she gave me the impression that I should not expect permanent gains and right away it turned me off. Is it a manual pump or electric? How does it work?
Lastly (I know its been a long post)
, if I drink protein shake right after pumping will this help me to retain my results? When should I take my other NBE pills if I am pumping?Thanks for the comprehensive guide to noogleberry, I knew I could count on you waxingmoon!
tinaz
(Login tinaz408)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 7 2009, 1:24 AM
Like I could have forgotten anything but I did.
I was wondering about the nipples. Do they get bigger? Is there anything I can do to prevent them from getting bigger? Do they hurt from the suction?
Thanks again. (I think we are going to become great friends!)
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 7 2009, 4:20 AM
Hi Tinaz,
There is a difference in the Brava versus the Noogleberry more than just session time. The Brava domes are a different shape and have a silicone edge to them. The Brava system uses less pressure and from what I have surmised from the women who use it there is also a difference in the area suctioned. I can't remember if it is larger or smaller area - but it is different.
I started out Noogling in July of 2008 and was very consistent until about February of 2009. I generally did a session twice a day starting with 20 - 30 minute session and then by the end was up to two 45 - 1 hr sessions. From my program page I was talking in September of 2008 of having noticed a size difference that remained throughout the day. I usually pumped in the mornings before work (while reading the forum usually) and after I got home from work before bed. Computer time or TV time is great Noogling time.
The marks were somewhat noticeable for at least 2 hours after Noogling in the am and completely gone in the mornings after my evening session. I did not have any sustained redness or red dots like some other women. All I had was a slight circular ring - not very noticeable, but I never wore a shirt that let it show... too self conscious.
The women who had been pregnant seemed to report the largest increases during suction. They filled up their domes in no time and would move on to the next size. This seemed to help some with swelling retention, but others didn't seem to retain any faster than those who had never been pregnant. Think of it this way. It is much easier to blow up a balloon once you have already blown it up before. The breast feeding is neither here nor there. It is merely that you have been larger before that gives you some potential benefit. Same goes for women who were larger before losing weight.
Lucy is very honest. There are no scientific studies on Noogle like there are on Brava. There will be no permanent gains right away. The persistence needed for permanent gains with Noogle are probably not going to appeal to most. The pump is manual and very easy to use. The pump attaches to the domes and you squeeze a trigger which sucks the air out of the domes. It does not take very many squeezes to reach the desired effect. However, expect some frustration at first as you juggle holding the domes and creating a seal and pumping all at once. Once you have the device I can guide you through step by step.
Protein shakes are a great idea. After all, you can't build a brick wall without bricks. Your body needs the raw ingredients and protein is key. Of course it does not have to be right after pumping, but it seems that keeping hydrated is a good idea and you might as well get into a routine. Take your other pills when it suits you the most. It takes time for the body to digest things so timing is not crucial. Consistency is crucial.
Be persistent and be consistent and the Noogle can work for you.
About the nipples. Some women found this was a problem. They used waterproof bandaids to keep the suction effect off the nipple. There are several posts on the Noogleberry forum regarding this. It was not a problem for me.
I am always glad to share what I know. By the way just in case anyone reading this thinks I am spamming for Noogle - nope. I talk about it fondly because it has been a great benefit for me.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
P.S. I have not mentioned it in these posts but I am currently not Noogling because of a persistent fibrocystic issue in my breasts as a result of estrogen dominance. That is why I stopped in February of this year and have not been able to return to it. The noogle did not cause the fibrocyst - I have had this before when my hormones were unbalanced. The noogling just makes the fibrocyst swell which hurts. I am eagerly awaiting returning to noogling once I get my hormone situation resolved. In the months I noogled from July of 08 to February of 09 I went from a small B to almost a C cup. I lost most of my gains however since I had to stop. There has been a change in the top portion of my breast of about a half cup size - permanent change. Also, the shape of my breasts has remained different - wider and seemingly heavier since noogling. I feel there was some permanent change all over the breast but not very much. Pretty good for such a short time I think.
This message has been edited by waxingmoon on Jul 7, 2009 5:00 AM
tinaz
(Login tinaz408)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 7 2009, 6:12 AM
Thanks so much, you dont understand what this means to me!!!
I think I finally may have figured out what was missing all this years, a breast pump system like noogleberry. I was thinking to start out with about 20-30 minutes then work my way up to 1 hr three times a day (not for a while). I have decided to get it because the price is not bad. Lucy also had told me that if I dont like it I could return, but she was sure that I would like it. According to the forum, it seems like alot of people like it.
Now that it is summer, it will be hard for me to not show my marks. But, I will be working inside so I could just wear a sweater until I get off from work. Off topic, I just got a job, which is hard to find in a recession! Once I receive my first paycheck I will buy noogleberry, because the forum pictures convinced me and the info you provided helped me to make my decision.
I am hoping that by taking other things like collagen, protein shake, and BO (probably), will help me to keep my results once I stop. I know that all those things could only help. Especially if you have retained your growth. But what is really good about noogling is you can do it anytime! Once you buy it, thats it! You have to keep repurchasing pills or other things years down the line if you want to increase again. I think that is the main reason I will buy it.
I will take pictures before I start noogling just so I can see if there is a difference after the swelling goes down. I am convinced though that I will see good results, I am the most positive I have ever been about an NBE program and I tried many! I think that is a major part of any NBE program. At this point in my life, I am starting to feel content about my life, which took some time to get to. I think the NBE is just one of the last things I wanted to fall in place. Its kind of a hard thing to explain.
Thank you for everything I will keep you posted on my results when I get this noogleberry. I will order it next Friday when I get paid.
tinaz
(Login tinaz408)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 19 2009, 11:58 PM
Hi Waxingmoon,
I have more questions for you. And bumping up my last comments/questions.
I have ordered the NB, you were very helpful in allowing me to make a decision. I am anxiously awaiting for my NB to arrive.
I asked Lucy but she said that I should ask NB Forum members, which you are a very knowledgeable one! So, my main question is if I use BO (1800 mg) and Protein shakes (75 grams of protein) daily will that help with my NB results? Will I see faster rentention by using BO, Swiss Lamb Placenta, and Protein/Amino Acids?
Is there anything I can do to see faster results?
Thanks.
waxingmoon
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Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 20 2009, 1:20 AM
Hi Tinaz,
No one can answer whether you will respond to a certain program. There are so many variables that we just cannot predict your response.
If you are going to use bovine ovary then you should definitely increase your protein, so your plan has merit. If indeed your body responds to the BO then yes, you will likely have an improvement in your results over Noogleberry alone.
However, you will need to proceed with the BO for a long enough time in order for that type of NBE to become permanent. If you stop too soon your results will likely fade.
I don't think you should think of combining routines as a sort of 'fix' for the Noogleberry. Here is what you will likely create with both routines. The BO *if you respond to it* will stimulate breast growth. The Noogleberry will enhance your size through swelling. The combined effect could make your results larger than using one alone - but neither effect speeds up the permanence of the other. What you gain with BO will be what you would gain with that method - as permanent or as temporary as BO can accomplish. What you gain with Noogleberry will be what you gain with suction method - temporary until you have done the large number of hours necessary for permanent tissue growth.
From the results on Noogleberry forum I gather that some women do combine it with other methods. I cannot say those that combine the Noogle with another thing grown any faster or keep their results more than those who use Noogle alone. It might be the case, but there is not enough information to make a judgment.
Do what feels right for you. Certainly using BO together with Noogle will not affect your results in a negative way. I hope I have answered your question.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
tinaz
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Re: Waxingmoon.... about Noogleberry
July 20 2009, 4:30 AM
Thanks Waxingmoon.
Yes, you did answer my question. The main thing I wanted to know was if taking the 2 would be beneficial to me or would harm me. I am hoping that the extra "help" from the BO and protein would help me to retain my growth but I guess we will see when I actually start.